Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

2021-12-28 Thread Robert Großkopf

Hi Rob,


I have a comment on Chapter 2, Creating a Database:
In the part on PostgreSQL some instructions is written to use PostgreSQL 
in Linux/OpenSUSE. As the majority of LibreOffice users are using 
Windows, should be there an instruction aimed at Windows users?


Reason here: I am the author of most content of the original Base 
Handbuch (Germany). And I'm using OpenSUSE since 20 years. Couldn't test 
anything in Windows.


Throughout the Guide Linux is used... (also in the figures). all manuals 
have Windows based figures, why not use windows figured here as well?


Same reason as above. We had discussions here about screenshots and 
decided to create all screenshots in Linux with a special theme. We 
won't show the behavior of open source software with screenshots of 
closed source software. Could also be a special problems with the right 
to use this screenshots in a published book.


Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

2021-12-28 Thread Rob Westein

Hi Steve,

I have a comment on Chapter 2, Creating a Database:
In the part on PostgreSQL some instructions is written to use PostgreSQL 
in Linux/OpenSUSE. As the majority of LibreOffice users are using 
Windows, should be there an instruction aimed at Windows users?


Throughout the Guide Linux is used... (also in the figures). all manuals 
have Windows based figures, why not use windows figured here as well?


best regards,

Rob Westein


On 28-12-2021 11:42, Steve Fanning wrote:

Hello everybody.

During the past few weeks, I have become more familiar with Base and 
the Base Guide (BG). In summary, I feel that the content of the BG 
would benefit from some care and attention. This will be time 
consuming and should be considered as a long-term aim, not a 
short-term fix.


I think we should adopt a phased approach to improving the document 
rather than trying to overhaul it all at once.


I suggest that we try to create an update to be published as soon as 
possible after the release of LO 7.3. The following improvements would 
be worthwhile and should be achievable in that time frame:


1. Review and update Chapter 1, Introduction to Base, so that is better
   aligned with the guides for other LO components and provides more
   information aimed at novice users. (A draft update will be available
   for review in a few days)
2. Update two of the sample databases that are publicly available
   (Media_without_Macros.odb and Example_Sport.odb) so that they are
   consistent with the revised text of Chapter 1.
3. Review and update Chapter 2, Creating a Database (task includes
   refreshing and anglicizing figures where necessary, and checking
   correctness of text). I will work on this as soon as I’ve completed
   the Chapter 1 update.
4. Update all other chapters to add captions to the many figures that
   do not currently have them.
5. Update all other chapters to remove any unnecessary negativity about
   the software product.

Does the above sound reasonable for the first step in a phased update 
plan?


Regards,

Steve


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[libreoffice-documentation] LO 7.3 RC1 is available

2021-12-28 Thread Jean Weber
Hello team,
RC1 of LO v7.3 is available from the usual LO download page. Scroll
down to the bottom where you'll see prerelease versions. The two
listed don't look like links, but they are. Click on 7.3.0. Have fun!
Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

2021-12-28 Thread flywire
Flagging https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/d/d5/Automobile.odb for
a maintenance update. iirc fuel usage table records are all identical and
need to be varied. It's used in
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/scriptforge-database-demo/69155 which is
intended to be located in the wiki. I'll provide details in the new year.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Base Guide - sample databases provided with the book

2021-12-28 Thread Steve Fanning

Hello everybody,

Dev has very kindly volunteered to look at the sample databases that are 
publicly availably and used throughout the Base Guide (BG).


While reviewing Chapter 1 of the BG I noticed a few problems with  the 
"Media_without_Macros.odb" database as follows. Dev, would you be able 
to correct these issues in your “master” version?


1. The name of the Adress table is spelt incorrectly (should be Address).
2. The relationships (at Tools > Relationships) don’t appear to be
   complete. For example, the Recall table should have a link to the
   Loan table; the Gender, rel_Reader_Schoolclass, and Gender tables
   should be linked to the Reader table.
3. On the Loan form, should “current Loan” have an uppercase “C”?
4. On the Loan form, when a reader has overdue media, then the string
   “Loan temporary locked!” is appended to the blue string in the
   middle of the form. Should this read “Loan temporarily locked!”?
5. The Recall report would probably benefit from some wording changes
   to improve its use of English (I can provide more detailed comments
   if needed).
6. The content of the data in the tables should be anglicized where
   appropriate.

Regards,

Steve




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[libreoffice-documentation] Updating the Base Guide

2021-12-28 Thread Steve Fanning

Hello everybody.

During the past few weeks, I have become more familiar with Base and the 
Base Guide (BG). In summary, I feel that the content of the BG would 
benefit from some care and attention. This will be time consuming and 
should be considered as a long-term aim, not a short-term fix.


I think we should adopt a phased approach to improving the document 
rather than trying to overhaul it all at once.


I suggest that we try to create an update to be published as soon as 
possible after the release of LO 7.3. The following improvements would 
be worthwhile and should be achievable in that time frame:


1. Review and update Chapter 1, Introduction to Base, so that is better
   aligned with the guides for other LO components and provides more
   information aimed at novice users. (A draft update will be available
   for review in a few days)
2. Update two of the sample databases that are publicly available
   (Media_without_Macros.odb and Example_Sport.odb) so that they are
   consistent with the revised text of Chapter 1.
3. Review and update Chapter 2, Creating a Database (task includes
   refreshing and anglicizing figures where necessary, and checking
   correctness of text). I will work on this as soon as I’ve completed
   the Chapter 1 update.
4. Update all other chapters to add captions to the many figures that
   do not currently have them.
5. Update all other chapters to remove any unnecessary negativity about
   the software product.

Does the above sound reasonable for the first step in a phased update plan?

Regards,

Steve

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