[libreoffice-documentation] WGChapter11-Mail Merge

2014-07-04 Thread John Smith

Hi.
I've uploaded this chapter to ODF into the Writer Draftsv4.2 folder.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Two files ready to be cleaned for publication

2014-07-04 Thread John Smith

Hi Milos.
Have you raised this as a bug in order to get it looked at? If you have 
not, I am happy to raise a report.

Let me know please.

Regards
JohnS
On 16/06/2014 01:37, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Milos Sramek msrame...@gmail.com wrote:

I have a comment regarding the new text about the gallery in Chapter 11. It
now says that all themes can be modified, i.e. all of them have green icons.
This is true only if one runs LO with administration rights. I've tested
this on Linux and W7 - in both cases one normally sees all icons in red. On
XP a user must be administrator to modify them, too. I recommend to return
to the old wording and eventually add a comment about the possibility to
modify the themes in administration mode (if there is a reason to do that).

John Smith made those changes, not Hazel. He is on holidays at the
moment, but I can return the file to the old wording. Thanks, Milos.

I've been looking at this on my Mac, where I can add images to any
theme (though the icons are brown, not red or green), delete images
from any theme, etc. I'm not running LO as administrator, but I did
install it for use by anyone on the computer. I'm not sure how best to
deal with this: perhaps add a note to say that it depends on the
installation? Or just remove the sentences You can add images to any
theme and You can delete any theme from the Gallery? I will test a
bit more. Would also be useful if others reading this could do a bit
of testing. Or can you reference something on the wiki or bugzilla
about this?

--Jean




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[libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 10, Templates in Writer

2014-05-27 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF into the WG Drafts4.2 folder.

Hi Jean, welcome back.
 Because of a bug in the Wizards in Writer not permitting Letter, Fax 
or Agenda to be created (reported as Fixed for V4.3) I'm unable to 
verify the Wizards section in the chapter and have left the text as it 
was for the V4.0 guide.
There was also mention some time previously about opening a document 
after the Template has been changed, and the macro that is run in order 
to bring up the update styles dialogue if it had been declined 
previously, no longer working. This has been checked and is still a 
valid protocol. I've commented it in the chapter.


Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS Chapter 11, Graphics, Gallery and Fontwork

2014-05-27 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I know this chapter has been published, but I had cause to refer back to 
it and have come across a number of issues with both the text and also 
associated graphics.
I have fully commented my issues in the chapter. I have uploaded this 
chapter to ODF into the GS Drafts4.2 folder. The graphics are done on a 
different system to mine so I made no attempt to replace them in this 
chapter. Unfortunately I started dealing with this with Track Changes 
off before I realised, so I've commented the changes made prior to 
turning it on.


Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] WG4209 - Working with Tables

2014-05-18 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF into the Writer Drafts4.2 folder.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] possible errors in documentation

2014-05-07 Thread John Smith

Hi
Thank you for your comments. They will be actioned in the next release 
of the User Guide.


Regards
JohnS
On 04/05/2014 11:31, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:

taken from here
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
the writer manual

errors should be in table chapter...

errors should be:

-)If a table already stretches to the page margins, it cannot stretch 
any wider and the Adapt table width option is not available


this happens only if automatic alignement is checked in the Alignment 
area on the Table tab


-)in the section To adjust the resizing parameters and behavior for 
keyboard handling, choose Tools  Options  LibreOffice Writer  Table.


there is this sentence:

Fixed, proportional: when resizing a cell with this option selected, 
all the other cells are also resized proportionally, Also in this case 
the width of the table remains constant.


and this cannot happen becouse resizing a cell when all the other 
cells are also resized cannot be maintaining the width of the table...


bye, manythanx :-) ciao :-) pier...




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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Ch4 Ch7

2014-04-22 Thread John Smith

Hi.
Chapters 4 and 7 of the Writer Guide have now been uploaded to ODF into 
the Drafts4.2 folder.


JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 3

2014-04-06 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter uploaded to ODF in the Writer Drafts v4.2 folder.

JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS4209 - Getting Started With Math

2014-04-04 Thread John Smith

Hi
That macro worked OK in v4.0. I remember you leaving me a comment in the 
Writer guide, where it is explained, asking me to verify it.

That doesn't mean of course, that it can't be removed now.

Regards
JohnS
On 03/04/2014 22:19, Jean Weber wrote:
And AFAIK, that macro no longer works, so I am removing it wherever it 
appears.


--Jean

On Friday, April 4, 2014, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi
Sorry, I should have said, that it can be removed ok with no
negative effects. It is entered manually in order to use it, it's
not an embedded one.

Regards
JohnS
On 03/04/2014 18:42, Martin Saffron wrote:

Hello,

Ah, I see.  In that case, I won't remove it.  I'll take a look
at that chapter again at the weekend (and will take a closer
look at GS4212).

Regarding chapter 5, I've replaced screenshots from the 29Mar
draft of GS4205 and uploaded it to the feedback folder:


http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch-5-getting-started-with-calc/view


Regards,

Martin

On 03/04/14 18:14, John Smith wrote:

Hi
That macro was required, if for some reason, when the
template had been changed, you elected to not update the
document on opening. The option to update was not offered
when opening the document again and in order to then
update to the changed template, you needed to run the macro.

Regards
JohnS
On 03/04/2014 05:01, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Martin Saffron
martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Milos has pointed out a couple of minor
corrections that could be made to
the chapter I uploaded yesterday.  One of these is
the fact that the chapter
contains what seems to be an entirely superfluous
macro (Standard  Format 
FixDocV3 macro).

The macro was present in the LO4.0 version of the
chapter and I opted not to
remove it since I was unsure of its purpose.  Can
anybody shed any light on
this?  I'm happy to remove it and re-upload an
edited draft if it serves no
purpose.

I may have a little time later so will see if I am
able to replace
inconsistent screen captures in the GS4203 and
GS4210 files from the
feedback folder.

I suspect it's left over from some cleanup someone
else did long ago.
If it's still in the edited file I just uploaded,
please go ahead and
remove it at the same time you make other needed
changes. Thanks!

--Jean







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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS4209 - Getting Started With Math

2014-04-03 Thread John Smith

Hi
That macro was required, if for some reason, when the template had been 
changed, you elected to not update the document on opening. The option 
to update was not offered when opening the document again and in order 
to then update to the changed template, you needed to run the macro.


Regards
JohnS
On 03/04/2014 05:01, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Martin Saffron martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Milos has pointed out a couple of minor corrections that could be made to
the chapter I uploaded yesterday.  One of these is the fact that the chapter
contains what seems to be an entirely superfluous macro (Standard  Format 
FixDocV3 macro).

The macro was present in the LO4.0 version of the chapter and I opted not to
remove it since I was unsure of its purpose.  Can anybody shed any light on
this?  I'm happy to remove it and re-upload an edited draft if it serves no
purpose.

I may have a little time later so will see if I am able to replace
inconsistent screen captures in the GS4203 and GS4210 files from the
feedback folder.

I suspect it's left over from some cleanup someone else did long ago.
If it's still in the edited file I just uploaded, please go ahead and
remove it at the same time you make other needed changes. Thanks!

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS4205 Calc

2014-04-03 Thread John Smith

Hi again.
I've had an almost instant resolution to this bug report from Eike 
Rathke, who I believe is one of the chief developers with regards to Calc.

He responds;

Applying a cell format NEVER changes existing cell content. On purpose.

He classes it as 'Resolved' and 'Not A Bug'. So here's the quandary, if 
it's doing it on your system, then it appears to be a bug related to 
your OS. It's possible I may not have phrased the bug report too well 
and it's been misunderstood, even though I included a spreadsheet 
attachment with the report illustrating what was happening. So I don't 
think this is likely to be the case.
Would you mind having a look at the bug report 77025 and see what you 
think? If I've not screwed it up and the behaviour is as described by 
you in the comment reply in the chapter, would you mind raising a bug 
report yourself?

I hate to let these things just slide.

Regards
JohnS

On 03/04/2014 19:47, John Smith wrote:

Hi Martin
Just had another look at this chapter out of curiosity and I see 
you've replied to a comment I left, regarding a cell's content 
changing immediately when the formatting is changed, from say, a 
number to text.
I have 4.2.3.1 on WinXP and I've just tried this again. The format 
does not change until new data is entered into the reformatted cell. 
This looks like a definite bug in light of your comment reply.
Would you redo the text in the guide to reflect what you're getting 
instead of the text I wrote there?

I'll raise a bug report for this and submit it.
Thanks.
Regards
JohnS
On 02/04/2014 21:43, Martin Saffron wrote:

Just seen this; I'll replace screenshots tomorrow.

Regards,

Martin

On 02/04/14 11:55, Jean Weber wrote:

I've put it here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4-2-ch5-calc-1/view 



--Jean


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com 
wrote:

I'm having a look at this now and will put it back soon so Martin can
replace screenshots as needed. I'll let you know. --Jean

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Martin Saffron 
martinsaff...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello John,

I'll take a look at replacing screen shots and reviewing the 
chapter later.


Thanks,

Martin


On 27/03/14 17:21, John Smith wrote:

Hi
I've gone over this chapter and added text and screen shots for the
Sidebar. The screen shots may need replacing with ones taken in 
the OS, or

not used at all, that the others are taken in.
There are a number of errors which need to be checked and agreed 
by the
original reviewer, Martin?, Peter? These are all commented. There 
are also
some queries, left in comments, which should be assessed, and 
finally the

odd suggestion, which can be taken up or rejected as is seen fit.
The file has been placed back into the Drafts folder here;

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4-2-ch5-calc/view 



Regards
JohnS



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Ch1-4 of GS4.2 published

2014-04-02 Thread John Smith

I've reworded this explanation and replaced the file on ODF.

Regards
JohnS
On 31/03/2014 20:07, Jean Weber wrote:

So that needs rewording. Number of is misleading.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi Milos
By default, the Lightproof Grammar Checker checks only for the duplication
of the words 'and', 'or', 'for' and 'the'.
By enabling the option described in the guide, the text is checked for the
duplication of all words.

Regards
JohnS
On 31/03/2014 09:50, Milos Sramek wrote:


Dňa 29.03.2014 07:42, Jean Weber wrote / napísal(a):


I have published chapters 1 through 4 of Getting Started with LO 4.2.


Dear Jean,


Milos, you probably want to go through Ch4 and possibly the others; if
you do, we can then replace the published chapters.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-
started/published-lo-4.2


I've uploaded one file as a test - it is now in the Pending review
status. Is this what did you mean by then replace the published chapters?

I have a question ragarding Chapter 2:
there is the following text on page 27:
---
Word duplication

Checks for all word duplication, increased from the default number of
words checked.
---

Which default number? I have not found any parameter related to the
number of duplicated words.

best
Milos



I'm working on other chapters this weekend; they will either go into
Feedback or Published. I'll let you know.

Meanwhile, carry on team! Would be nice to get this book done by
mid-April, before I disappear on a 5-week trip without Internet access
much of the time. Not that you can't finish the book without me, but
experience suggests that is unlikely to happen.

Cheers, Jean





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ch1-4 of GS4.2 published

2014-04-02 Thread John Smith

Hi Milos
Firstly of course, the extension as to be installed in your particular 
system. The 'English spelling dictionaries ...' is installed by default 
in the English language versions of LibO.
Check in 'Tools - Extension Manager' to see if it's there. If it is, 
click on it and then click on the 'Options' button to bring up the 
dialogue where you can set these extra checks to be done in the grammar 
checker.
I have no idea why this extension is used in preference to any other, 
that's a question you would have to ask on the Developer's mailing list :).
Duplicate word finding works ok on my system. Not all the options 
selectable work however, but that's for the bug-fixers to deal with. The 
bug report was made on the 17th Feb and appears to be still awaiting triage.


Regards
JohnS
On 02/04/2014 08:04, Milos Sramek wrote:

Hi John,


Dňa 31.03.2014 20:03, John Smith wrote / napísal(a):

Hi Milos
By default, the Lightproof Grammar Checker checks only for the 
duplication of the words 'and', 'or', 'for' and 'the'.
By enabling the option described in the guide, the text is checked 
for the duplication of all words.
I see. However, the checker either does not work at all, or it is 
disabled in my LO and I do not know how to switch it on. I've even 
read Chapter 4, to find out :(.


In fact I first thought that the opposite was right, since all 
replicated words were always underlined by a blue wavy line. Only 
later I've realized that these were detected by the Languagetool 
grammar checker, I've installed earlier.
Btw, do you know why lightproof was included by default in LO and not 
Languagetool? The second has a very active community and is supported 
for many languages. One can install it as an extension, but still I do 
not understand the decision.


best
Milos


Regards
JohnS
On 31/03/2014 09:50, Milos Sramek wrote:

Dňa 29.03.2014 07:42, Jean Weber wrote / napísal(a):

I have published chapters 1 through 4 of Getting Started with LO 4.2.

Dear Jean,

Milos, you probably want to go through Ch4 and possibly the others; if
you do, we can then replace the published chapters.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-4.2 

I've uploaded one file as a test - it is now in the Pending review 
status. Is this what did you mean by then replace the published 
chapters?


I have a question ragarding Chapter 2:
there is the following text on page 27:
---
Word duplication

Checks for all word duplication, increased from the default number 
of words checked.

---

Which default number? I have not found any parameter related to 
the number of duplicated words.


best
Milos



I'm working on other chapters this weekend; they will either go into
Feedback or Published. I'll let you know.

Meanwhile, carry on team! Would be nice to get this book done by
mid-April, before I disappear on a 5-week trip without Internet access
much of the time. Not that you can't finish the book without me, but
experience suggests that is unlikely to happen.

Cheers, Jean













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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ch1-4 of GS4.2 published

2014-03-31 Thread John Smith

Hi Milos
By default, the Lightproof Grammar Checker checks only for the 
duplication of the words 'and', 'or', 'for' and 'the'.
By enabling the option described in the guide, the text is checked for 
the duplication of all words.


Regards
JohnS
On 31/03/2014 09:50, Milos Sramek wrote:

Dňa 29.03.2014 07:42, Jean Weber wrote / napísal(a):

I have published chapters 1 through 4 of Getting Started with LO 4.2.

Dear Jean,

Milos, you probably want to go through Ch4 and possibly the others; if
you do, we can then replace the published chapters.
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-4.2 

I've uploaded one file as a test - it is now in the Pending review 
status. Is this what did you mean by then replace the published 
chapters?


I have a question ragarding Chapter 2:
there is the following text on page 27:
---
Word duplication

Checks for all word duplication, increased from the default number of 
words checked.

---

Which default number? I have not found any parameter related to the 
number of duplicated words.


best
Milos



I'm working on other chapters this weekend; they will either go into
Feedback or Published. I'll let you know.

Meanwhile, carry on team! Would be nice to get this book done by
mid-April, before I disappear on a 5-week trip without Internet access
much of the time. Not that you can't finish the book without me, but
experience suggests that is unlikely to happen.

Cheers, Jean







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[libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 6; Intro to Styles

2014-03-28 Thread John Smith

Hi
I've placed this chapter in the Writer Drafts 4.2 folder.

Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS4205 Calc

2014-03-27 Thread John Smith

Hi
I've gone over this chapter and added text and screen shots for the 
Sidebar. The screen shots may need replacing with ones taken in the OS, 
or not used at all, that the others are taken in.
There are a number of errors which need to be checked and agreed by the 
original reviewer, Martin?, Peter? These are all commented. There are 
also some queries, left in comments, which should be assessed, and 
finally the odd suggestion, which can be taken up or rejected as is seen 
fit.

The file has been placed back into the Drafts folder here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4-2-ch5-calc/view

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS4.2 Ch.3 Styles Templates

2014-03-27 Thread John Smith

Hi
I've made a single sentence correction in 'Deleting Styles' to remove an 
incorrect statement. I've left the corrected chapter in the same place.


Regards
JohnS
On 24/03/2014 18:53, Martin Saffron wrote:

Hello,

I've replaced screen captures in the GS4203 file uploaded to the 
feedback folder on 22 March.  The amended file has been uploaded here:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch3-styles-templates-1/view 



I was ready to replace screen captures in the GS4210 file but I notice 
that it has been checked-out in the User Guide status table 
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks). 
Please advise.


Regards,
Martin




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[libreoffice-documentation] GS4.2 Ch 5 Calc

2014-03-23 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I've taken GS Ch5 and will deal with the Sidebar addition. I've logged 
it out on the wiki.


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[libreoffice-documentation] GS4.2 Ch10 Printing exporting emailing

2014-03-22 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I've looked over this chapter for any possible Sidebar content (none 
found). I've made some minor edits with record changes on, but that's 
all I've done with it. Accordingly I've left it in the Drafts folder, 
but have marked the wiki with today's date.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template manager

2014-03-21 Thread John Smith

HI
Thanks to all who responded, particularly you Jean for the info on the 
experimental explanation.
It is actually GS Ch3 I'm dealing with. I'll get it amended and then 
uploaded.

Thanks to all once again.

Regards
JohnS
On 20/03/2014 17:36, John Smith wrote:
I should have included the info that the button appears in the 
screen-shot to the left of the 'Import' button with 'My Templates' 
selected in the 'Documents' tab.


JohnS
On 20/03/2014 17:26, John Smith wrote:

Hi all.
In one of the latest user guides is a screen-shot of the Template 
Manager, taken from a Mac I think, showing a Repository button (File 
 New  Templates, or whatever route you wish to use to open it). 
This button does not exist on my Win XP system in LO release 4.2.3.1. 
Would someone check to see if this button still exists in other OSes 
than XP please?
It's either gone now or a bug. If it's gone I can rewrite, else I'll 
file a bug.

Thanks.

Regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] GS4.2 Ch3 Styles Templates

2014-03-21 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I've done some changes with regards to the Sidebar, and a few other 
minor edits. All done with changes being recorded.
The chapter has been uploaded back to here; 
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch3-styles-templates/view
There are some graphics to replace - I didn't replace them so that they 
can all be done from the same OS, and there's one query about 
formatting, which has been left in a comment. The wiki has been updated.

Chapter 10 next.

Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS4.2 Ch4 Writer

2014-03-20 Thread John Smith

This chapter has been uploaded to here after further edits;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch4-writer/view

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[libreoffice-documentation] Template manager

2014-03-20 Thread John Smith

Hi all.
In one of the latest user guides is a screen-shot of the Template 
Manager, taken from a Mac I think, showing a Repository button (File  
New  Templates, or whatever route you wish to use to open it). This 
button does not exist on my Win XP system in LO release 4.2.3.1. Would 
someone check to see if this button still exists in other OSes than XP 
please?
It's either gone now or a bug. If it's gone I can rewrite, else I'll 
file a bug.

Thanks.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Template manager

2014-03-20 Thread John Smith
I should have included the info that the button appears in the 
screen-shot to the left of the 'Import' button with 'My Templates' 
selected in the 'Documents' tab.


JohnS
On 20/03/2014 17:26, John Smith wrote:

Hi all.
In one of the latest user guides is a screen-shot of the Template 
Manager, taken from a Mac I think, showing a Repository button (File  
New  Templates, or whatever route you wish to use to open it). This 
button does not exist on my Win XP system in LO release 4.2.3.1. Would 
someone check to see if this button still exists in other OSes than XP 
please?
It's either gone now or a bug. If it's gone I can rewrite, else I'll 
file a bug.

Thanks.

Regards
JohnS




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 5; PrintingExportingEmailing

2014-03-17 Thread John Smith
Yes I do Jean, thanks. I think the Sidebar is going to increase in 
importance as LibO evolves and I want to cover as much as I can in 
anticipation of this. I'm going to put as much introductory information 
as I can into 'WG Ch1', and begin stitching it into all the explanations 
throughout the chapters. I'll finish 'WG Ch1' first and then go back to 
'GS Ch4-Getting started with Writer' and do some more edits. After that 
I'll look at the other GS guides relevant to Writer and do the same there.


Regards
JohnS
On 17/03/2014 05:51, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:11 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

This chapter now uploaded to ODF, Writer Drafts 4.2 folder.

JohnS

I have reviewed this chapter and placed it in the Writer 4.2 Feedback folder.

I have not reviewed Chapters 3 and 4 because I thought you might want
to make further changes related to including info about the sidebar.

--Jean




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[libreoffice-documentation] WG4.2 Ch 1 Introducing Writer

2014-03-17 Thread John Smith

This chapter uploaded to ODF here after further edits;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/feedback-4.2/wg4-2-ch1-introducing-writer/view

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] WG Chapter 5; PrintingExportingEmailing

2014-03-08 Thread John Smith

This chapter now uploaded to ODF, Writer Drafts 4.2 folder.

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: GS Ch3 Styles Templates

2014-03-02 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I'll continue to clean up as I go then.
Regards
JohnS
On 02/03/2014 01:34, Jean Weber wrote:
On Thursday, 27 February 2014, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:



Further to this, I've just downloaded the GS Styles and Templates
chapter to have a look at it ( I see the chapter was booked out by
BB on the 14th Feb, and so I won't do anything to it) and I can
see once again, many other styles not in the template. Can you say
whether they're there by intention and ought to be left, or
whether they can go?


Many chapters contain styles that are not in the template and often 
are not even in use in the chapter. IMO they can all be purged and, if 
in use, replaced with our standard styles. I haven't been too 
concerned about them because we keep planning to have a whole new 
template, but so far that keeps getting stalled so it's probably a 
good idea to clean up the chapters as we go.


BB (Bruce Byfield) has just sent me his revised version of this 
chapter, which I will have alook at and then upload to the website.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer guide chapter 4

2014-02-28 Thread John Smith

This chapter uploaded to ODF into the Writer Drafts v4.2 folder.

JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Information request

2014-02-27 Thread John Smith

Hi Clayton.
I'm afraid I didn't get your response, it's not in any of my Thunderbird 
folders, so not classed as spam, but I can see it when I look at the 
thread on Nabble.
So thanks for that, I'll put it into the guide with you as a 
contributor. It's always a bit of a problem when you run a system that 
doesn't show all the options.


Regards
Johns
On 26/02/2014 10:01, C wrote:

Umm.. I replied 6 days ago :-)  Are you not subscribed? Or did you
want more info?

Clayton



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:30 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

No takers on this? Just a few lines from someone with a non-Windows OS would
be appreciated. :-)

JohnS

On 20/02/2014 19:47, John Smith wrote:

Hi all.
On the Tools  Options  LibreOffice  Print page is a menu item
(apparently) 'PDF as Standard Print Job Format'. This menu item is not
available in Windows - my system - so I can't see it or try it to write it
up.
Would someone be good enough to write a paragraph or so giving me the info
on this so that I can include it in the Guide. I'll append your name as a
contributor in the guide.
Hope someone can help, thanks
JohnS



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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started chapter 2; Setting up LO

2014-02-27 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean.
I've placed this chapter into the GS Drafts 4.2 folder on ODF. I've 
responded to comments you left and carried out some further edits - 
thanks to Clayton for pointing me in the right direction.


I noticed in this chapter, the task bar indicated 'Multiple Languages', 
and in the 'Styles and Formatting' window there were a lot of 
unrecognised (by me) character styles.
I did a copy/paste into a new template to clear these out and revert the 
language back to 'English(USA)' for the document as a by-product.


Further to this, I've just downloaded the GS Styles and Templates 
chapter to have a look at it ( I see the chapter was booked out by BB on 
the 14th Feb, and so I won't do anything to it) and I can see once 
again, many other styles not in the template. Can you say whether 
they're there by intention and ought to be left, or whether they can go?


Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Information request

2014-02-26 Thread John Smith
No takers on this? Just a few lines from someone with a non-Windows OS 
would be appreciated. :-)


JohnS
On 20/02/2014 19:47, John Smith wrote:

Hi all.
On the Tools  Options  LibreOffice  Print page is a menu item 
(apparently) 'PDF as Standard Print Job Format'. This menu item is not 
available in Windows - my system - so I can't see it or try it to 
write it up.
Would someone be good enough to write a paragraph or so giving me the 
info on this so that I can include it in the Guide. I'll append your 
name as a contributor in the guide.

Hope someone can help, thanks
JohnS




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[libreoffice-documentation] Information request

2014-02-20 Thread John Smith

Hi all.
On the Tools  Options  LibreOffice  Print page is a menu item 
(apparently) 'PDF as Standard Print Job Format'. This menu item is not 
available in Windows - my system - so I can't see it or try it to write 
it up.
Would someone be good enough to write a paragraph or so giving me the 
info on this so that I can include it in the Guide. I'll append your 
name as a contributor in the guide.

Hope someone can help, thanks
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS4202-Setting up LO

2014-02-17 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I've gone through this chapter as requested. Apart from some very minor 
edits, I've written up the 'English sentence checking' section and left 
a comment. I replaced figure 25 too as it showed Dev version menu items. 
Have a look to see if you want to replace it from your system's UI.

I have left the file here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch2-setting-up-lo/view

If there's nothing you want me to have a look at I'll return to the 
Writer guide.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 4, Getting started with Writer

2014-02-04 Thread John Smith

Hi Milos
The problems I came across, and I went no further than checking these, 
lie with the numbering and the list styles.
For example, if you care to look at, say Chapter 9 picked at random, and 
select the OOoNum 123 Start style, you will see that on the 'Outline and 
Numbering' tab, 'Numbering' has been set incorrectly to 'None'. On the 
'Indents  Spacing' tab, you will see the 'Before text:' and 'First 
line:' values have been incorrectly set to zero. This applies to the 
whole family of OOoNum styles and to the OOoList family of styles too.
As I said, I have checked no other styles as I then adopted my 
copy/paste routine to get on with the work.
I hope you find this information useful and good luck with what you're 
doing.

Regards
JohnS
On 03/02/2014 21:18, Milos Sramek wrote:

Dear John,

please, let me know where does the problem reside. I want to look at 
it and eventually correct the script, if it is an error. It should not 
touch any styles except for removing OOODefault.

Milos

Dňa 2014-02-03 19:33, John Smith wrote / napísal(a):
With respect to the Writer guides, Milos has done some work and 
'cleaned' them using some software routines. Unfortunately there 
appears to be some random changes made to some of the custom styles 
we use (not the coloured backgrounds to styles that are in the 
'cleaned' files, but others).






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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 4, Getting started with Writer

2014-02-03 Thread John Smith

Thanks Tim
The error has been rectified and the file replaced.
Regards
JohnS
On 02/02/2014 22:38, Tim Lloyd wrote:

Hi John,

The only thing I can see here is a typo at the bottom of page 17 - 
unrecognised. Other than that all

good.

Sad to say I think I reviewed the previous version of this guide which 
includes the same typo :-[ . Maybe something to note down for the next 
version?


Cheers

On 02/02/14 09:33, John Smith wrote:

Hi
 The GS Guide Ch4 has been uploaded to here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/chapter-4-getting-started-with-writer/view 



Unfortunately, with this copy I had a lot of trouble with LO crashing 
and file corruption. There are almost no recorded changes prior to 
about page 21 and masses of deleted pages after the document ends. 
The chapter is good to go in spite of this.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 4, Getting started with Writer

2014-02-03 Thread John Smith

Hi Gary
Happily for me, disappearing graphics have not been a problem for a long 
time now.
With respect to the Writer guides, Milos has done some work and 
'cleaned' them using some software routines. Unfortunately there appears 
to be some random changes made to some of the custom styles we use (not 
the coloured backgrounds to styles that are in the 'cleaned' files, but 
others). I have adopted the routine for Writer of copying and pasting 
content from the 'clean' files into a new v3_4 template in order to 
reset all the styles that have the same names, to those in the template.
I am going to keep multiple copies for the time being. My earlier 
problem was with v4.2.0.3 and now we're into v4.2.0.4 I'm hoping it will 
be trouble free. Time will tell.


Regards
JohnS
On 03/02/2014 04:09, Gary Schnabl wrote:
A recurring problem I occasionally encountered is having some (or all) 
of the Figure graphics disappearing in some (corrupted?) Writer 
chapter files for one reason or another--sometimes, even before any 
editing/rewriting was done to them. So, I would make multiple files in 
the process of editing docs in order to enable returning to an 
intermediate edited copy with its graphics still intact--thus not 
losing all that editing effort.


Gary

On 2/2/2014 2:03 PM, John Smith wrote:

Hi Gary
No, no idea why it crashed. I was just editing happily and it 
disappeared off screen, with no announcement, on one of the 
occasions, another occasion had the look of a 'standard' crash with 
warnings and recovery options. It was from one of these, after it 
took a good ten minutes to recover a document and something like five 
to six minutes to delete a single character that I did a copy/paste 
into a new clean template. I did this a couple of times all told 
during the work on the chapter.
Copy/paste doesn't transfer over the edits, that is, the deleted or 
changed text, with or without 'Record Changes- Show' being enabled 
when copying is done. Hence the document not displaying changes made 
before pasting.


Regards
JohnS
On 01/02/2014 22:52, Gary Schnabl wrote:
Do you have any idea why they crashed? Did you try a copy (Ctrl-A 
and Ctrl-C)-and-paste of the entire chapter file unto a clean, new 
ODT file from the most current template?


Gary

On 2/1/2014 5:33 PM, John Smith wrote:

Hi
 The GS Guide Ch4 has been uploaded to here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/chapter-4-getting-started-with-writer/view 



Unfortunately, with this copy I had a lot of trouble with LO 
crashing and file corruption. There are almost no recorded changes 
prior to about page 21 and masses of deleted pages after the 
document ends. The chapter is good to go in spite of this.


Regards
Johns













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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 4, Getting started with Writer

2014-02-02 Thread John Smith

Hi Gary
No, no idea why it crashed. I was just editing happily and it 
disappeared off screen, with no announcement, on one of the occasions, 
another occasion had the look of a 'standard' crash with warnings and 
recovery options. It was from one of these, after it took a good ten 
minutes to recover a document and something like five to six minutes to 
delete a single character that I did a copy/paste into a new clean 
template. I did this a couple of times all told during the work on the 
chapter.
Copy/paste doesn't transfer over the edits, that is, the deleted or 
changed text, with or without 'Record Changes- Show' being enabled when 
copying is done. Hence the document not displaying changes made before 
pasting.


Regards
JohnS
On 01/02/2014 22:52, Gary Schnabl wrote:
Do you have any idea why they crashed? Did you try a copy (Ctrl-A and 
Ctrl-C)-and-paste of the entire chapter file unto a clean, new ODT 
file from the most current template?


Gary

On 2/1/2014 5:33 PM, John Smith wrote:

Hi
 The GS Guide Ch4 has been uploaded to here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/chapter-4-getting-started-with-writer/view 



Unfortunately, with this copy I had a lot of trouble with LO crashing 
and file corruption. There are almost no recorded changes prior to 
about page 21 and masses of deleted pages after the document ends. 
The chapter is good to go in spite of this.


Regards
Johns







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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide; Preface and Chapter 1

2014-02-02 Thread John Smith

Hi
These two chapters have been uploaded to here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/drafts-v4.2

Chapter 1 should be considered as preliminary. I'm waiting on a bug 
resolution to replace a screen-shot.
Apart from that, with v4.2 evolving all these chapters posted will be 
revisited as the release matures anyway.


Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 4, Getting started with Writer

2014-02-01 Thread John Smith

Hi
 The GS Guide Ch4 has been uploaded to here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/chapter-4-getting-started-with-writer/view

Unfortunately, with this copy I had a lot of trouble with LO crashing 
and file corruption. There are almost no recorded changes prior to about 
page 21 and masses of deleted pages after the document ends. The chapter 
is good to go in spite of this.


Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started book for LO v4.2

2014-01-27 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I can detour to this with no trouble. I'm currently doing Writer.

JohnS
On 26/01/2014 06:39, Jean Weber wrote:

The Getting Started guide is, not surprisingly, the most popular book
we produce, with the Writer Guide running a close second.

PeterS, if you can update the chapters on Draw and Impress for the
Getting Started book, that would help move it along. And any other
chapters that might take your fancy. Perhaps Calc, since you've been
working on the Calc Guide?

MartinS, Thanks for your continuing work on this book.

JohnS, are you there? The chapter on Writer, perhaps?

Anyone else?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Technical writing about LibO 4.2 lists/headings bullet/numbering

2014-01-25 Thread John Smith

Hi Dominique
This list strips attachments from mail.
If you would like to email the document to me directly, as I am dealing 
with the Writer documentation, I will be pleased to look at it.


Regards
JohnS
On 25/01/2014 13:16, dominique.bout...@laposte.net wrote:

Hi,

I wrote the attached monograph about the tricky LibO 4.2 
lists/headings bullet/numbering subject (FR and EN).


Please feel free to read and react, to push it at the right place of 
the documentation, to use it and to make concerned people aware of it.


Thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Adding definitions to description of statistical functions in Calc

2014-01-04 Thread John Smith

Hi Silas
The Docs team are responsible for producing the User Guides. I guess the 
information you are requesting *could *be added to the relevant chapter 
in the Calc guide *if* it was thought necessary to enhance the 
understanding of users. That's not a decision in which I have an input.
The Help files and their index is not part of the documentation team's 
remit. I don't know who deals with that I'm afraid.
The Insert Function dialogue is part of the programme UI and is dealt 
with by the Development group. I believe, though I've never done it, 
that you have to request a programme enhancement through the Bugzilla 
system if you want something added like you have described.


I guess you're after something like this for the help files:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_STDEV_function

Sorry I can't be of further help.
Regards
JohnS

On 04/01/2014 12:56, Silas Ørting wrote:

2013/12/30 John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi Silas
You can get a lot of information from here, in section 6.18:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part2.html#__RefHeading__1018622_715980110

The Semantics part is exactly what I am looking for. A simple way of
making this info more available would be to add a link in the function
reference at
https://help.libreoffice.org/Calc/Functions_by_Category and in the
insert function dialog.

If there is interest in this, I could work on it.

I looked around in
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/tree/source/text/scalc
but I cant really figure out how it is organised, is there an
explanation of the directory/filenaming somewhere?


Best
Silas

Regards
JohnS

On 25/12/2013 15:21, Silas Ørting wrote:

Hi

Whenever I need a statistical function in Calc, it annoys me that I
cant see the definition.
F.ex is stddev corrected or uncorrected?
I would like to add definitions to the description that is displayed
in the function dialog.

Any thoughts on the idea and pointers to getting started is appreciated.

Best regards, Silas



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Adding definitions to description of statistical functions in Calc

2013-12-30 Thread John Smith

Hi Silas
You can get a lot of information from here, in section 6.18:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part2.html#__RefHeading__1018622_715980110

Regards
JohnS
On 25/12/2013 15:21, Silas Ørting wrote:

Hi

Whenever I need a statistical function in Calc, it annoys me that I
cant see the definition.
F.ex is stddev corrected or uncorrected?
I would like to add definitions to the description that is displayed
in the function dialog.

Any thoughts on the idea and pointers to getting started is appreciated.

Best regards, Silas




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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc guide chapter 8 - PivotTables

2013-12-11 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
A bug fix for the GETPIVOTDATA function has been released and tested for 
4.1.5. This bug is the subject of a CAUTION table, the very last item, 
in this chapter. As this is, or will be, a 4.1 release it may be an idea 
to republish the chapter. I have altered the text in the CAUTION table 
to Using the GETPIVOTDATA function with the second syntax variation in 
releases prior to LO 4.1.5, will return a #REF error..

I reported this as bug 71234 which got marked as a duplicate of 69518.
I have put the altered chapter in ODFAuthors here 
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/chapter-8-pivottables/view

should you wish to make use of it.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO Calc and the ImageMap Editor

2013-12-05 Thread John Smith

Hi Peter
I've just given this a go and it works fine using LO4.1.3.2 on WinXP and 
it launches Firefox 25.1.

It also works ok with an internal URL (C:\Documents and Settings\...)
Being pedantic, you say 'click the hotspot...', this is of course, 
Ctrl_click the hotspot.


Regards
JohnS
On 05/12/2013 10:45, PeeWee wrote:

Has anybody got a solution for this problem.

I am editing and rewriting Chapter 5 of the Calc Guide 4.1 to give it the
same look and feel as the first four chapters. However, I come across a
problem with creating image maps.

I have followed the instructions given in Calc help and created a hotspot on
a graphic. Click the apply button so that the hotspot will work. Yet when I
click on the hotspot in a Calc spreadsheet, the hotspot does not open my
browser as it is supposed to do. I have tried this in Ubuntu and Mac OS.

However, I have created the same hotspot in Impress, using the same graphic
and web address and it works perfectly. This to me indicates a problem with
Calc and image mapping. Now you can see why I need a little help.

Regards

PeterS



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Release 4.2 icon set

2013-12-03 Thread John Smith

Hi Martin
Thanks, I had seen this entry, but note that in 4.2Beta1, 
Tango(Automatic) is still the default installation icon set. While it 
may change we have to make a start somewhere.

Regards
JohnS
On 03/12/2013 15:49, Martin Saffron wrote:

Hello,

I don't know what has been discussed previously but I believe LO4.2 
will introduce a new icon set.  I've read elsewhere that they may be 
the default.  Take a look here:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2#GUI

A new set of icons have been included in LibreOffice 4.2, these icons 
named Sifr, where designed to reach the goal of having a beautiful 
non-distracting icons to help the user concentrate on the document. 
(Issa Alkurtas, Norah Abanumay, Mirek M., Pavel Haratický and Ahmad 
Harthi)


Thanks

Martin

On 02/12/13 23:28, Jean Weber wrote:
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:20 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
wrote:

Jean,
Just had a thought on this subject. Are we staying with Galaxy, 
which I see

is no longer listed as Galaxy(default), or are we going with Tango?
I know we had this discussion earlier this year, but is it now time 
to bite

the bullet?

On another point, is the template being changed from the LO3.4 
template?.

Again, that was mentioned earlier in the year I think.

John,
Thanks for the nudge about the new template, which I have been working
on and should get to the stage of making available to all. Okay,
that's my priority task for December. I *will* get this done.
Meanwhile, please carry on using the old one.

As for the icon set, yes it probably is time to make the change from
Galaxy to Tango, unless someone knows a good reason why we should not.
(A good reason being something like: the hypothetical situation of the
Design Team seriously considering changing to yet another icon set.
Note: I have no idea if that is under consideration; I haven't been
following design discussions. But might be worth checking if something
dramatic is coming up on the design side.)

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[libreoffice-documentation] Next task

2013-12-02 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
Just to let you know I've made a start on the Writer guide for 4.2.

Regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] Release 4.2 icon set

2013-12-02 Thread John Smith

Jean,
Just had a thought on this subject. Are we staying with Galaxy, which I 
see is no longer listed as Galaxy(default), or are we going with Tango?
I know we had this discussion earlier this year, but is it now time to 
bite the bullet?


On another point, is the template being changed from the LO3.4 
template?. Again, that was mentioned earlier in the year I think.


Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc guide chapter 16 (Annex B)

2013-11-24 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/chapter16-appendix-b-calc-functions/view

There are a number of comments which need review/ decisions.

I've now removed the temporary folder in Calc where I had the unfinished 
file saved.


Regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Annex B

2013-11-19 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean.
The chapter has now had its first pass through with all the functions 
looked at. I'm just doing a final pass.
Where a function's arguments are lower case, and a sentence begins with 
that name, does it retain its lower case formatting because it's a 
variable's name?


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide v4.1, Chapter 8, Pivot Tables, has been published

2013-11-14 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I've not had a look at this, but if it mentions within the chapter the 
function GETPIVOTDATA(), then it may be informative to readers that a 
bug exists within it. The bug number is 71234 and can be found here;

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71234

Regards
JohnS
On 12/11/2013 21:40, Jean Weber wrote:

I have edited Preston's work on CG 4.1 Ch8, Pivot Tables, and published it to 
the wiki and to the ODFAuthors website (on the latter, it's under CG 4.0, which 
is where I'm putting chapters until PeterS has a chance to go through them). 
I'd link, but on the iPad that's not as easy or quick as on the laptop).

Others are welcome to further review this or any other chapter in this book. We are very 
close completing a first edition of the book, so I am pushing ahead with the remaining 
chapters. As you know, I am a fan of publish early and often.

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GETPIVOTDATA

2013-11-14 Thread John Smith

Good stuff. Well done.

JohnS
On 14/11/2013 12:39, K-J LibreOffice wrote:

Hi John, Jean,
Am 14.11.2013 11:28, schrieb John Smith:

Hi Jean
I've not had a look at this, but if it mentions within the chapter the
function GETPIVOTDATA(),


Yes


then it may be informative to readers that a
bug exists within it. The bug number is 71234 and can be found here;
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71234


I made a note in the published file taking your bug report and put the 
file in Draft LO4.1 [1].

Unfortunately the note starts on a new page.

[1] 
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1/chapter-8-pivot-table





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-10-01 Thread John Smith

Hi Peter
Just check the bug report for full details, here;
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69440
This includes the resolution of the bug.

Regards
JohnS
On 01/10/2013 07:15, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

Now back to the grindstone.

I will upgrade Chapter 7 to 4.1. That way all the chapters will have the same 
look and feel which makes for a more professional looking guide.

John, please send me all the info about the bug using my email address below.


Peter Schofield
psaut...@libreoffice.org



On 17 Sep 2013, at 12:56, JohnSmith [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
ml-node+s969070n4074459...@n3.nabble.com wrote:


Hi
If I've understood you correctly, this chapter will not be published for
v4.0 but will be further reviewed and then published as v4.1.
If this is the case then when I revisit it to incorporate Shelagh's
comments I will need to add a Caution within the text. There is a bug
I've found within the Function Wizard which crashes LO in v4.1, but not
in v4.0. Bug 69440 for reference.
Alternatively, if Peter is doing the chapter for v4.1 then he will be
able to do the Caution his own way from the bug report.
If you could let me know which way you want it done, I'll be fine to go
with it.

Appendix B in progress.
Regards
JohnS
On 16/09/2013 07:36, PeeWee wrote:


Hello

I will be looking at all the chapters in numerical order. That way I get a 
better understanding of Calc works as I am no spreadsheet expert. I do operate 
Calc as I am checking the chapters to make sure the instructions match what 
happens on the screen. I do sometimes miss things, but will keep it in my mind 
about Excel. I do have MS Office for Mac and Windows 2011 version. Just means I 
have the reinstall onto my computers - not a problem.

Regards

Peter Schofield
[hidden email]



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[hidden email] wrote:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM, John Smith [hidden email] wrote:


Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view

I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I need someone to
answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to verify as I have no
access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version :-) .


Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of Calc. I did
chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed over from
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a good stating point
for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which was out when when
we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was fully functional.
He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was no 3.5 folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere. Hopefully Jean may
have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some changes since the file
was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on Nabble for reference.
Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.


Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll return to the
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear nothing then I will
update my system to v4.1 and get started.


Regards
JohnS

John, thanks for your work on Chapter 7. Peter, perhaps you can follow
up on John's question as well as doing whatever else you intend with
that chapter? Of course, anyone else who can answer John's Excel
question is very welcome to do so!

Regarding Chapter 8 (Pivot Tables), AFAIK Martin Fox's v3.5 comments
were incorporated into the v3.4 chapter published in July 2012, after
being checked that they were valid for v3.4. I could, of course, be
misremembering. I'm looking through my backups to see if I can find a
copy of the file he edited. At this point, it's probably not all that
relevant, because of further changes in Calc itself.

John, we're not working on v4.0 docs any more, not even for Calc, so
please feel free to update your system to v4.1. IMO the most helpful
thing you can do right now -- if you're willing -- is to look at Calc
Appendix B and update it with the new functions (from v3.5, 3.6, 4.0,
4.1). The lists of new functions are readily available on the new
features pages of the LO website, but I have not looked yet to see
where to get the descriptions. Possibly the French team has already
done this and can help?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CONVERT function in Calc

2013-09-18 Thread John Smith

Thanks Shelagh and Steve.
CONVERT_ADD is the next function in the Function Wizard list, and I 
hadn't yet reached that one. It looks, from reading the Help files, as 
if that one supersedes CONVERT as the function to use for converting 
units. I don't know why the function has been left in.
In the Help, it says; The functions whose names end with _ADD return 
the same results as the corresponding Microsoft Excel functions. But, 
does opening a Calc spreadsheet containing CONVERT_ADD, in Excel, cause 
an error?


Because I can't get CONVERT to work I think I may raise a bug. If it's a 
dead function then it will hopefully get removed. I can't see much use 
for a function for dead European currencies.


Regards
JohnS
On 17/09/2013 22:41, shelagh.man...@gmail.com wrote:
I searched on Google - apparently convert should be convert_add and 
the list of units you can use (and works 'cause I tried some out) can 
be found for the help of that function.


Now the question is, is it a documentation bug that the convert 
function is mentioned in the help, if you are supposed to use 
convert_add? Or perhaps convert is for a limited set of conversions. I 
just tried the exact example given for the convert function in the 
help and that works for converting deutchmarks to euros.


Cheers

Shelagh


On 18 September 2013 06:45, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi all.
I'm working on the Appendix B chapter for Calc and I am looking at
the =CONVERT function. This function converts a numerical value
from one unit of measure, to another unit of measure in the same
group, for example feet into yards, both in the distance group.
Within the dialogue of the Function Wizard is a statement
Converts a value according to a conversion table in the
configuration (main.xcd).

My question is basically a two parter; is this list available to a
user, and if so how do you access it? and because the two
parameters in the function for units are both case sensitive and
entered inside quotes, how do you find what the valid entries are
for these parameters?
The  syntax is CONVERT(Number, text, text) where text is the
unit of conversion.

I have tried a few of the entries which I found here;

http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part2.html#CONVERT
such as lbm and stone for mass, pt and qt for volume and
ft and in for distance, without success.

Pulling my hair out here:-) . Please help.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CONVERT function in Calc

2013-09-18 Thread John Smith

Hi Tom
That's another route to go. I'll give it a go. Hope I can do it without 
signing up to that list.


Hi Jean, it may well be the reason that it's still there. Makes doing 
the docs a real time-consuming pain though.


As a by-the-by, the location for the two new functions AVERAGEIF and 
AVERAGEIFS is in the Mathematical category on the Function Wizard. The 
other AVERAGE, AVEDEV and AVERAGEA functions are in the Statistical 
category. In Excel all these functions are in the Statistical category. 
As the first two are new functions I'm wondering if they have been 
wrongly located? How do we ask that question, and to whom? I'm going to 
ignore it in the docs and write it as I find it, maybe it'll get changed 
later.



Feedback from reporting the Function Wizard bug crashing LO is that it 
will be fixed for 4.1.3. I'll keep an eye on it and remove the Caution 
from Calc chapter 7 when it's done.


Regards
JohnS
On 18/09/2013 12:35, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
This looks like a question that might be good to pass on to the Users 
Mailing List?  They might have answers to the 2 questions here.


Since you can't get Convert to work it might be good to post a 
bug-report anyway and then wait for feedback from the Users List.


I keep getting told off for liaising between lists so it would be 
better if you posted the question there rather than me passing it on 
to them.

Regards from
Tom :)


*From:* Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
*To:* John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk
*Cc:* documentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, 18 September 2013, 11:43
*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-documentation] CONVERT function in Calc

Isn't it, and some other functions, still there so old spreadsheets 
that used it will still work? (Just a guess; I don't know.)

--Jean

On 18/09/2013, at 20:17, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


 Thanks Shelagh and Steve.
 CONVERT_ADD is the next function in the Function Wizard list, and I 
hadn't yet reached that one. It looks, from reading the Help files, as 
if that one supersedes CONVERT as the function to use for converting 
units. I don't know why the function has been left in.
 In the Help, it says; The functions whose names end with _ADD 
return the same results as the corresponding Microsoft Excel 
functions. But, does opening a Calc spreadsheet containing 
CONVERT_ADD, in Excel, cause an error?


 Because I can't get CONVERT to work I think I may raise a bug. If 
it's a dead function then it will hopefully get removed. I can't see 
much use for a function for dead European currencies.


 Regards
 JohnS
 On 17/09/2013 22:41, shelagh.man...@gmail.com 
mailto:shelagh.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I searched on Google - apparently convert should be convert_add and 
the list of units you can use (and works 'cause I tried some out) can 
be found for the help of that function.


 Now the question is, is it a documentation bug that the convert 
function is mentioned in the help, if you are supposed to use 
convert_add? Or perhaps convert is for a limited set of conversions. I 
just tried the exact example given for the convert function in the 
help and that works for converting deutchmarks to euros.


 Cheers

 Shelagh


 On 18 September 2013 06:45, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi all.
I'm working on the Appendix B chapter for Calc and I am looking at
the =CONVERT function. This function converts a numerical value
from one unit of measure, to another unit of measure in the same
group, for example feet into yards, both in the distance group.
Within the dialogue of the Function Wizard is a statement
Converts a value according to a conversion table in the
configuration (main.xcd).

My question is basically a two parter; is this list available to a
user, and if so how do you access it? and because the two
parameters in the function for units are both case sensitive and
entered inside quotes, how do you find what the valid entries are
for these parameters?
The  syntax is CONVERT(Number, text, text) where text is the
unit of conversion.

I have tried a few of the entries which I found here;
 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part2.html#CONVERT

such as lbm and stone for mass, pt and qt for volume and
ft and in for distance, without success.

Pulling my hair out here:-) . Please help.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-09-17 Thread John Smith

Thanks Shelagh.
I'll revisit the chapter and review what I have written.

Regards
JohnS
On 17/09/2013 01:04, shelagh.man...@gmail.com wrote:
Have tested ceiling() and Floor() and in Excel niether accepts a third 
argument. I would propose changing the wording to if you want your 
spreadsheet to be compatible for both Excel and Calc you should leave 
the optional mode argument out of your formulas. Or words to that 
effect. Not sure what the purpose of the -1 as the argument but Excel 
was not happy with it at all.

Cheers
Shelagh
PS will be off air for about 3 weeks.


On 16 September 2013 19:00, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi Jean.
I will update to v4.1 then and make a start on Appendix B for Calc
4.1.

Thanks to all who have offered to check the guide's Excel
statement for me.

Regards
JohnS

On 16/09/2013 00:08, Jean Weber wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM, John Smith
clicks...@yahoo.co.uk mailto:clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view

I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I
need someone to
answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to
verify as I have no
access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version
:-) .


Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of
Calc. I did
chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed
over from
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a
good stating point
for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which
was out when when
we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was
fully functional.
He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was
no 3.5 folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere.
Hopefully Jean may
have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some
changes since the file
was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on
Nabble for reference.
Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.


Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll
return to the
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear
nothing then I will
update my system to v4.1 and get started.


Regards
JohnS

John, thanks for your work on Chapter 7. Peter, perhaps you
can follow
up on John's question as well as doing whatever else you
intend with
that chapter? Of course, anyone else who can answer John's Excel
question is very welcome to do so!

Regarding Chapter 8 (Pivot Tables), AFAIK Martin Fox's v3.5
comments
were incorporated into the v3.4 chapter published in July
2012, after
being checked that they were valid for v3.4. I could, of
course, be
misremembering. I'm looking through my backups to see if I can
find a
copy of the file he edited. At this point, it's probably not
all that
relevant, because of further changes in Calc itself.

John, we're not working on v4.0 docs any more, not even for
Calc, so
please feel free to update your system to v4.1. IMO the most
helpful
thing you can do right now -- if you're willing -- is to look
at Calc
Appendix B and update it with the new functions (from v3.5,
3.6, 4.0,
4.1). The lists of new functions are readily available on the new
features pages of the LO website, but I have not looked yet to see
where to get the descriptions. Possibly the French team has
already
done this and can help?

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-09-17 Thread John Smith

Hi
If I've understood you correctly, this chapter will not be published for 
v4.0 but will be further reviewed and then published as v4.1.
If this is the case then when I revisit it to incorporate Shelagh's 
comments I will need to add a Caution within the text. There is a bug 
I've found within the Function Wizard which crashes LO in v4.1, but not 
in v4.0. Bug 69440 for reference.
Alternatively, if Peter is doing the chapter for v4.1 then he will be 
able to do the Caution his own way from the bug report.
If you could let me know which way you want it done, I'll be fine to go 
with it.


Appendix B in progress.
Regards
JohnS
On 16/09/2013 07:36, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

I will be looking at all the chapters in numerical order. That way I get a 
better understanding of Calc works as I am no spreadsheet expert. I do operate 
Calc as I am checking the chapters to make sure the instructions match what 
happens on the screen. I do sometimes miss things, but will keep it in my mind 
about Excel. I do have MS Office for Mac and Windows 2011 version. Just means I 
have the reinstall onto my computers - not a problem.

Regards

Peter Schofield
psaut...@libreoffice.org



On 16 Sep 2013, at 01:08, Jean Weber [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
ml-node+s969070n4074293...@n3.nabble.com wrote:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM, John Smith [hidden email] wrote:


Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view

I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I need someone to
answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to verify as I have no
access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version :-) .


Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of Calc. I did
chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed over from
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a good stating point
for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which was out when when
we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was fully functional.
He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was no 3.5 folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere. Hopefully Jean may
have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some changes since the file
was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on Nabble for reference.
Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.


Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll return to the
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear nothing then I will
update my system to v4.1 and get started.


Regards
JohnS

John, thanks for your work on Chapter 7. Peter, perhaps you can follow
up on John's question as well as doing whatever else you intend with
that chapter? Of course, anyone else who can answer John's Excel
question is very welcome to do so!

Regarding Chapter 8 (Pivot Tables), AFAIK Martin Fox's v3.5 comments
were incorporated into the v3.4 chapter published in July 2012, after
being checked that they were valid for v3.4. I could, of course, be
misremembering. I'm looking through my backups to see if I can find a
copy of the file he edited. At this point, it's probably not all that
relevant, because of further changes in Calc itself.

John, we're not working on v4.0 docs any more, not even for Calc, so
please feel free to update your system to v4.1. IMO the most helpful
thing you can do right now -- if you're willing -- is to look at Calc
Appendix B and update it with the new functions (from v3.5, 3.6, 4.0,
4.1). The lists of new functions are readily available on the new
features pages of the LO website, but I have not looked yet to see
where to get the descriptions. Possibly the French team has already
done this and can help?

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-09-17 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean

Yes, the bug came to light as I worked on Appendix B using v4.1.1.2.
I posted it to Bugzilla after some research and it as been confirmed in 
v4.1.3.0. but not present in v4.0.5.


Regards
JohnS
On 17/09/2013 12:20, Jean Weber wrote:

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:55 PM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi
If I've understood you correctly, this chapter will not be published for
v4.0 but will be further reviewed and then published as v4.1.

That is the plan. Skip 4.0.


If this is the case then when I revisit it to incorporate Shelagh's comments
I will need to add a Caution within the text. There is a bug I've found
within the Function Wizard which crashes LO in v4.1, but not in v4.0. Bug
69440 for reference.

This bug is still there in 4.1.1?

--Jean


Alternatively, if Peter is doing the chapter for v4.1 then he will be able
to do the Caution his own way from the bug report.
If you could let me know which way you want it done, I'll be fine to go with
it.

Appendix B in progress.
Regards
JohnS

On 16/09/2013 07:36, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

I will be looking at all the chapters in numerical order. That way I get a
better understanding of Calc works as I am no spreadsheet expert. I do
operate Calc as I am checking the chapters to make sure the instructions
match what happens on the screen. I do sometimes miss things, but will keep
it in my mind about Excel. I do have MS Office for Mac and Windows 2011
version. Just means I have the reinstall onto my computers - not a problem.

Regards

Peter Schofield
psaut...@libreoffice.org



On 16 Sep 2013, at 01:08, Jean Weber [via Document Foundation Mail
Archive] ml-node+s969070n4074293...@n3.nabble.com wrote:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM, John Smith [hidden email] wrote:


Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view

I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I need someone
to
answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to verify as I have
no
access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version :-) .


Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of Calc. I did
chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed over from
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a good stating
point
for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which was out when
when
we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was fully
functional.
He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was no 3.5
folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere. Hopefully Jean
may
have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some changes since the
file
was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on Nabble for
reference.
Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.


Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll return to the
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear nothing then I will
update my system to v4.1 and get started.


Regards
JohnS

John, thanks for your work on Chapter 7. Peter, perhaps you can follow
up on John's question as well as doing whatever else you intend with
that chapter? Of course, anyone else who can answer John's Excel
question is very welcome to do so!

Regarding Chapter 8 (Pivot Tables), AFAIK Martin Fox's v3.5 comments
were incorporated into the v3.4 chapter published in July 2012, after
being checked that they were valid for v3.4. I could, of course, be
misremembering. I'm looking through my backups to see if I can find a
copy of the file he edited. At this point, it's probably not all that
relevant, because of further changes in Calc itself.

John, we're not working on v4.0 docs any more, not even for Calc, so
please feel free to update your system to v4.1. IMO the most helpful
thing you can do right now -- if you're willing -- is to look at Calc
Appendix B and update it with the new functions (from v3.5, 3.6, 4.0,
4.1). The lists of new functions are readily available on the new
features pages of the LO website, but I have not looked yet to see
where to get the descriptions. Possibly the French team has already
done this and can help?

--Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-09-17 Thread John Smith

Hi
I've incorporated Shelagh's information into the text and I've added a 
Caution about the Function Wizard bug.

The file's been updated on ODF.
Back to Appendix B.

Regards
JohnS
On 17/09/2013 13:24, John Smith wrote:

Hi Jean

Yes, the bug came to light as I worked on Appendix B using v4.1.1.2.
I posted it to Bugzilla after some research and it as been confirmed 
in v4.1.3.0. but not present in v4.0.5.


Regards
JohnS
On 17/09/2013 12:20, Jean Weber wrote:
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:55 PM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
wrote:

Hi
If I've understood you correctly, this chapter will not be published 
for

v4.0 but will be further reviewed and then published as v4.1.

That is the plan. Skip 4.0.

If this is the case then when I revisit it to incorporate Shelagh's 
comments

I will need to add a Caution within the text. There is a bug I've found
within the Function Wizard which crashes LO in v4.1, but not in 
v4.0. Bug

69440 for reference.

This bug is still there in 4.1.1?

--Jean

Alternatively, if Peter is doing the chapter for v4.1 then he will 
be able

to do the Caution his own way from the bug report.
If you could let me know which way you want it done, I'll be fine to 
go with

it.

Appendix B in progress.
Regards
JohnS

On 16/09/2013 07:36, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

I will be looking at all the chapters in numerical order. That way 
I get a

better understanding of Calc works as I am no spreadsheet expert. I do
operate Calc as I am checking the chapters to make sure the 
instructions
match what happens on the screen. I do sometimes miss things, but 
will keep
it in my mind about Excel. I do have MS Office for Mac and Windows 
2011
version. Just means I have the reinstall onto my computers - not a 
problem.


Regards

Peter Schofield
psaut...@libreoffice.org



On 16 Sep 2013, at 01:08, Jean Weber [via Document Foundation Mail
Archive] ml-node+s969070n4074293...@n3.nabble.com wrote:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM, John Smith [hidden email] wrote:


Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view 



I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I need 
someone

to
answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to verify as 
I have

no
access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version :-) .


Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of Calc. I 
did

chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed over from
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a good 
stating

point
for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which was out 
when

when
we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was fully
functional.
He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was no 3.5
folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere. Hopefully 
Jean

may
have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some changes since 
the

file
was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on Nabble for
reference.
Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.


Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll return 
to the
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear nothing then 
I will

update my system to v4.1 and get started.


Regards
JohnS
John, thanks for your work on Chapter 7. Peter, perhaps you can 
follow

up on John's question as well as doing whatever else you intend with
that chapter? Of course, anyone else who can answer John's Excel
question is very welcome to do so!

Regarding Chapter 8 (Pivot Tables), AFAIK Martin Fox's v3.5 comments
were incorporated into the v3.4 chapter published in July 2012, after
being checked that they were valid for v3.4. I could, of course, be
misremembering. I'm looking through my backups to see if I can find a
copy of the file he edited. At this point, it's probably not all that
relevant, because of further changes in Calc itself.

John, we're not working on v4.0 docs any more, not even for Calc, so
please feel free to update your system to v4.1. IMO the most helpful
thing you can do right now -- if you're willing -- is to look at Calc
Appendix B and update it with the new functions (from v3.5, 3.6, 4.0,
4.1). The lists of new functions are readily available on the new
features pages of the LO website, but I have not looked yet to see
where to get the descriptions. Possibly the French team has already
done this and can help?

--Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] CONVERT function in Calc

2013-09-17 Thread John Smith

Hi all.
I'm working on the Appendix B chapter for Calc and I am looking at the 
=CONVERT function. This function converts a numerical value from one 
unit of measure, to another unit of measure in the same group, for 
example feet into yards, both in the distance group.
Within the dialogue of the Function Wizard is a statement Converts a 
value according to a conversion table in the configuration (main.xcd).


My question is basically a two parter; is this list available to a user, 
and if so how do you access it? and because the two parameters in the 
function for units are both case sensitive and entered inside quotes, 
how do you find what the valid entries are for these parameters?
The  syntax is CONVERT(Number, text, text) where text is the unit of 
conversion.


I have tried a few of the entries which I found here; 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part2.html#CONVERT
such as lbm and stone for mass, pt and qt for volume and ft 
and in for distance, without success.


Pulling my hair out here:-) . Please help.

Regards
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-09-16 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean.
I will update to v4.1 then and make a start on Appendix B for Calc 4.1.

Thanks to all who have offered to check the guide's Excel statement for me.

Regards
JohnS
On 16/09/2013 00:08, Jean Weber wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view

I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I need someone to
answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to verify as I have no
access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version :-) .


Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of Calc. I did
chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed over from
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a good stating point
for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which was out when when
we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was fully functional.
He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was no 3.5 folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere. Hopefully Jean may
have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some changes since the file
was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on Nabble for reference.
Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.


Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll return to the
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear nothing then I will
update my system to v4.1 and get started.


Regards
JohnS

John, thanks for your work on Chapter 7. Peter, perhaps you can follow
up on John's question as well as doing whatever else you intend with
that chapter? Of course, anyone else who can answer John's Excel
question is very welcome to do so!

Regarding Chapter 8 (Pivot Tables), AFAIK Martin Fox's v3.5 comments
were incorporated into the v3.4 chapter published in July 2012, after
being checked that they were valid for v3.4. I could, of course, be
misremembering. I'm looking through my backups to see if I can find a
copy of the file he edited. At this point, it's probably not all that
relevant, because of further changes in Calc itself.

John, we're not working on v4.0 docs any more, not even for Calc, so
please feel free to update your system to v4.1. IMO the most helpful
thing you can do right now -- if you're willing -- is to look at Calc
Appendix B and update it with the new functions (from v3.5, 3.6, 4.0,
4.1). The lists of new functions are readily available on the new
features pages of the LO website, but I have not looked yet to see
where to get the descriptions. Possibly the French team has already
done this and can help?

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapter 7, formulas functions

2013-09-15 Thread John Smith

Hi.
I've uploaded chapter 7 to the Calc Drafts 4.0 folder here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-7-formulas-and-functions/view

I have left a few comments in the chapter, one of which I need someone 
to answer.
It concerns a statement about Excel which I'm unable to verify as I have 
no access to Excel, at least not later than the Win95 version :-) .



Peter, I see you intend to continue with the remainder of Calc. I did 
chapter 8 for v3.4. The Pivot table had not fully morphed over from 
DataPilot at that time so I don't think this will make a good stating 
point for v4.0.
However, Martin Fox did the same chapter for v3.5, which was out when 
when we were doing the v3.4 docs and in that, Pivot table was fully 
functional. He put the chapter into the drafts 3.4 folder as there was 
no 3.5 folder.
I've had a look around ODF but I can't see it anywhere. Hopefully Jean 
may have access to a copy, as ODF has gone through some changes since 
the file was uploaded.
You can see his email to docs, dated 17 May 2012, on Nabble for 
reference. Searching 'Calc chapter 8' will find it.



Jean, if there's nothing else you want me to look at, I'll return to the 
Writer guide. I'll hang on for a few days, if I hear nothing then I will 
update my system to v4.1 and get started.



Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Chapter 6-Printing Exporting E-mailing

2013-06-24 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-6-printing-exporting-e-mailing/view

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Calc Guide chapter 5 - Using graphics in Calc

2013-06-22 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has further edits as suggested by Chris69 and Dave.
The file has been placed on ODF here;
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-5-using-graphics-in-calc/view

Regards
JohnS
On 19/06/2013 09:35, Chris69 wrote:

Hello John,

I reviewed your document and loaded the result in ODFAuthors. Discussions
are welcome here.

Best regards,



-
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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide chapter 5 - Using graphics in Calc

2013-06-18 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF and placed in the Calc Drafts 4.0 
folder here;

 
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4/chapter-5-using-graphics-in-calc/view
Wiki pages updated.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc guide Chapter 4

2013-06-09 Thread John Smith

Hi all.
Just to let you know I've checked out chapter 4 of the Calc guide to 
work on.


JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Chapter 13 - Master docs

2013-05-09 Thread John Smith

Hi Kieran
Thanks for taking a look. I've responded to your comment, replacing a 
screen-shot for better clarity of file types, but I can't answer the second

part of your comment :-[ . File uploaded to ODF in the Drafts folder.

And now I'm off :-D . Back next month.

Regards
JohnS

On 08/05/2013 18:16, Kieran Peckett wrote:

I have uploaded my comments to the Feedback folder.


On 7 May 2013 22:31, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


Hi
I've uploaded this chapter to ODF and put it in the Writer Drafts folder.
Wiki page updated too.

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Chapter 13 - Master docs

2013-05-07 Thread John Smith

Hi
I've uploaded this chapter to ODF and put it in the Writer Drafts 
folder. Wiki page updated too.


JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

2013-04-26 Thread John Smith

Hi Gary
I'm currently working through WG Chapter 13 Working with Master Documents.

Regards
JohnS
On 25/04/2013 14:40, Gary Schnabl wrote:

On 4/25/2013 5:56 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
The old lurgy of disappearing pictures seems to have reappeared (or 
perhaps just never went away since it's so rare).  Someone has just 
come up with the idea of adding something to the guides tio help 
people avoid it.  Would it make sense?

Regards from
Tom :)


Ditto here with disappearing graphics in version 4 (now at version 
4.0.3.1 on my Windows 7 system), especially those pictures anchored as 
characters. Personally, I anchor graphics as characters only when 
adding small graphics inline (such as tiny graphics embedded within a 
line of text)--likely the major intended purpose of anchoring graphics 
in that manner.


There was some advice in the ODFAuthors guides to anchor pictures in 
figures as characters; however, I have rewritten those instructions 
whenever I encounter them in my version 4.x revisions of the 
Writer-Guide chapters.


On another matter, is anybody currently reviewing the Writer-Guide 
chapter on master documents? In my ongoing revisions of chapters and 
template redesign (based upon the ODFAuthored published chapters), I 
am devising a general-purpose master document/template and 
accompanying tutorials--starting from the master document, template, 
and page/section considerations and working down to the specifics of 
their components (text, figures, and tables, among others). I started 
into revising the only current published master-document chapter at 
ODFAuthors , the 3.6 version. Perhaps, somebody is working on the 
version 4 chapter, so that I could then hold my criticism of the 
version 3.6 version and apply it to the version 4 chapter, if necessary.


Gary



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Chapter 12 - TOCsIndexesBiblios

2013-04-15 Thread John Smith

Looking at the Wiki pages:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks, 
and also https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications,

it would seem the chapter has been dealt with by Jean and published..

Regards
JohnS
On 15/04/2013 16:39, Kieran Peckett wrote:

It has now been moved to Old Drafts: does this mean that it has been
reviewed and is ready for publication?


On 14 April 2013 21:11, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


This chapter has been uploaded to ODF Authors, Writer Guide Drafts 4.0
folder.

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Chapter 12 - TOCsIndexesBiblios

2013-04-14 Thread John Smith
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF Authors, Writer Guide Drafts 4.0 
folder.


JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer guide chapter 11 - Mail Merge

2013-04-07 Thread John Smith

Hi,
I've posted this chapter to ODF Authors, into the Writer Drafts 4.0 folder.

Regards
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Chapter 3 - Styles and Templates

2013-04-01 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
The Templates Manager has evolved, and so I've updated the above chapter 
to reflect this, and placed it into the GS Drafts 4.0 folder.


Regards
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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Chapter 8 Working with graphics

2013-03-22 Thread John Smith
This chapter has been uploaded to ODF. Placed in the Writer Guide Drafts 
4.0 folder.


JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Unable to log in to ODFAuthors?

2013-03-11 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I hung on but for a while, but have no access to ODF using my 
johnsmith log-in.


Regards
JohnS
On 05/03/2013 04:48, Jean Weber wrote:

I've received reports that people can't log in to the updated
ODFAuthors website; they're getting a message that their username
cannot be found. it's an issue with the migration of the user accounts
to the new site and will be fixed asap.

Meanwhile, my login works, so I should be able to create accounts for
active individuals who ask, while we're waiting for Andreas (our site
administrator) to be able to add the full list of accounts.

So... if you're actively involved, but you can't log in, let me know.
Please tell me what username you want; you'll be able to set your
preferred password later.

--Jean




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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide Chapter 7, Styles and Formatting

2013-02-26 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter has been uploaded to Writer Guide Draft LO 4.0 folder on 
ODF Authors.


JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Chapter 11, Graphics, Gallery and Fontwork

2013-02-26 Thread John Smith

Hi

From Hazel

   p.304. Adding images. First sentence is confusing; inserting from a
   file is mentioned twice. Better would be by inserting an image
   directly...from a scanner, from a file... Or the section from a file
   stored on your computer, could be deleted.

From Tim

   Page 306 Inserting an image using the scanner, 2nd line should start insert rather 
than inserted

   Page 310 Deleting a theme... change You can delete only themes to You can 
only delete themes?

   Page 312 Figure 307. Points 11  16 are in a smaller font than the rest of 
the numbers

   Page 317 Line Options - Line 3 contains Use Lines Styles which should be Use 
Line Styles

   Page 318 Change Anchor - The A in A *nchor* is not bold (not sure whether 
my highlight will make it in the sent email)

Thanks both of you. I've corrected these points in the stand-alone 
chapter and will post to ODF Authors later.


JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Chapter 11, Graphics, Gallery and Fontwork

2013-02-26 Thread John Smith

This chapter now on ODF Authors, Getting Started Feedback folder

JohnS
On 26/02/2013 21:25, John Smith wrote:

Hi

From Hazel

   p.304. Adding images. First sentence is confusing; inserting from a
   file is mentioned twice. Better would be by inserting an image
   directly...from a scanner, from a file... Or the section from a file
   stored on your computer, could be deleted.

From Tim

   Page 306 Inserting an image using the scanner, 2nd line should 
start insert rather than inserted


   Page 310 Deleting a theme... change You can delete only themes 
to You can only delete themes?


   Page 312 Figure 307. Points 11  16 are in a smaller font than the 
rest of the numbers


   Page 317 Line Options - Line 3 contains Use Lines Styles which 
should be Use Line Styles


   Page 318 Change Anchor - The A in A *nchor* is not bold (not sure 
whether my highlight will make it in the sent email)


Thanks both of you. I've corrected these points in the stand-alone 
chapter and will post to ODF Authors later.


JohnS




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[libreoffice-documentation] LO 4.0.1

2013-02-23 Thread John Smith

LO 4.0.1 RC1 was released yesterday 22 Feb 13

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Templates and out of date help

2013-02-22 Thread John Smith

Hi Peter
No bugs have been raised by me about this. If you don't have the two 
posts from Alex Thurgood on your computer still, from the 15th January 
you can find them on Nabble.
In a nutshell, he asserts that A), the devs are still dealing with 
Template Manager, and that B), the Help files are obsolete.

There has been some discussion on the list about the Help system.
On 22/02/2013 08:10, Peter Schofield wrote:

Hello John

I am upgrading the Impress template chapter to 4.0 and have come across one 
little problem. The LO help on templates is still referring to the old system 
of template management from LO3.6 and not the new template manager in LO4.0. 
Have you raised this with the help team or submitted a bug report? Jean 
suggested I contact you about this.

I am using your GS chapter 3 on templates as a base for the Impress template 
chapter so that the two chapters have similar instructions.

Regards

Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO4.0 Getting Started: Chapters 9/10 - Getting Started With Math/Printing

2013-02-21 Thread John Smith

Hi Tim
Your first three points have been taken care of. An updated chapter is 
in the GS 4.0 Feedback folder.


Your final point is somewhat debatable. There are a number of instances 
in the chapter where Click the Print button is not a separate point.
Perhaps they ought to be, but they went through final edits. Perhaps 
Jean will have a view. I've taken no action at this point.


Regards
JohnS
On 21/02/2013 20:26, Tim Lloyd wrote:

Hi,

Page 264: Note references an appendix. I am assuming there should be an 
appendix number?
Page 278 - Fast insertion of formulas - should the bullets be numbers?
Page 281 - Should the final http address be clickable?

Printing

Page 291 Printing envelopes, etc. Click the Print button should be point 3)



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Book Prefaces

2013-02-20 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
I've added the section to the Writer Guide Preface and placed it back 
into the Feedback folder.


JohnS
On 19/02/2013 23:49, Jean Weber wrote:

Some changes are needed to the Preface of the v4.0 books. These include:

* Make http://ask.libreoffice.org prominent. I don't think it's even mentioned.
* Remove http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/ which is about
TDF/LO but not user support as such.
* Correct the link to the OO forum, which is now
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/
* Add section at end: New Features in LibreOffice [component] 4.0

I have made the necessary changes to the Getting Started guide
Preface, both standalone and in the compiled book.

I have edited the draft Writer Guide and Impress Guide Prefaces and
put them into Feedback for the respective books. They still need to
have the New Features section added. Sorry; I forgot to turn on change
tracking when editing.

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO4.0 Getting Started: Chapter 3 Using Styles and Templates

2013-02-18 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean  Tim
I've done a revision of that Note.
I've placed the revised GS Chapter 3 StylesTemplates into the GS 
Feedback folder on ODF. If Tim can look again to see if it's still 
confusing that will be good.
I fully expect the event to which it refers to be changed, as it does 
give me the impression it's not the intended action.


JohnS
On 18/02/2013 01:34, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote:

Hi,

Page 63 The note contains a broken ref
Page 64 Updating Styles from a document or template refers to itself
Page 66 Copying Styles from a template or document contains 4) and 4)

We'll fix those.


Page 71 the note after point 5 is confusing to me.

JohnS or I will try to improve.


Page 71 Editing a template. When compared with GS3503 this is noticeably different. Point 1 
advises to choose FileNewTemplates. Should this not be FileEditTemplates?

Several things to do with templates have changed dramatically from v3.x to v4.0.

--Jean




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 3: Using styles and templates

2013-02-18 Thread John Smith

Thanks Hazel
All three points are now incorporated into the file on ODF in the GS  
Feedback folder.


JohnS
On 18/02/2013 14:26, Hazel Russman wrote:

p.63 Note at bottom of page contains bad reference.

p.64. Section at bottom of page refers to itself.

p.68. Creating a template from a document. The note refers to My
Documents. I think that should be My Templates




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[libreoffice-documentation] LO 4.0 Writer Guide Chapter 4, Formatting Pages

2013-02-18 Thread John Smith

This chapter uploaded to ODF Writer LO 4.0. Drafts folder

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] LO 4.0, Writer Guide Chapter 5

2013-02-18 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter uploaded to ODF Writer v4.0 Drafts folder

JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Font Sizes

2013-02-14 Thread John Smith

Hi Jean
Thanks for the heads-up.
The information here is comprehensive and explicit, and so does not 
require any further additional explanatory text. The point made by 
Jean-Francois is also covered here too.
The information supplied by Gary is somewhere in the guide too. If I 
don't come across it as I work through the chapters I'll add it in. It's 
detailed in the bundled Help too, search on /Measurement Units/, and 
select /converting/. Other routes are available.


Thanks
JohnS

On 13/02/2013 18:23, Jean Weber wrote:

It's on page 12 of Chapter 7, Working with Styles, in the Writer Guide v3.6. :-)

Jean

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 6:35 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi Peter
I'll make sure to add it into the Styles chapter

JohnS

On 13/02/2013 11:36, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

Problem solved.

Jean came up with the solution.

If you have a percentage figure in the font size for a style, just
highlight
the percentage figure and, for example, type 16pt. This turns all the
percentage figures into point sizes.

Maybe this should be in the Writer Guide.

Regards

PeterS



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Font Sizes

2013-02-13 Thread John Smith

Hi Peter
I'll make sure to add it into the Styles chapter

JohnS
On 13/02/2013 11:36, PeeWee wrote:

Hello

Problem solved.

Jean came up with the solution.

If you have a percentage figure in the font size for a style, just highlight
the percentage figure and, for example, type 16pt. This turns all the
percentage figures into point sizes.

Maybe this should be in the Writer Guide.

Regards

PeterS



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[libreoffice-documentation] GS Chapter 3, Styles and Formatting

2013-02-10 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter now uploaded to Feedback folder on ODF.

Starting the GS Math now.

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide

2013-02-07 Thread John Smith

Chapters 0,1,2, and 3 uploaded to ODF, Writer Draft folder.
Chapter 0, Figure 1 is the same as the GS 0 guide. It can be altered as 
required.


JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] LO set-up options - View options

2013-02-04 Thread John Smith

Hi
Could someone with a Linux set-up please confirm, or otherwise, that the 
Automatic icon style is KDE or Gnome as stated in the documentation.
In Windows it is Automatic(Tango). I'm just after confirmation of the 
Automatic setting.


Thanks
JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] LO set-up options - View options

2013-02-04 Thread John Smith

Thank you to all who replied.
May I just repeat that I only want to know what the Automatic setting is 
(Automatic(xx) in Tools-Options-LibreOffice-View in the User 
Interface icon style list box.
This is only to verify the accuracy of the statement in the guide, 
irrespective of what we change to for our own use.


If that alters anyone's answer please feel feel free to respond.
Again, thank you for taking the time.

JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Marking up graphics

2013-02-04 Thread John Smith
Thanks to all for opinions. I agree that 0.05cm works well and I'm going 
with that.


JohnS
On 04/02/2013 20:55, Leo Moons wrote:

Hello,

In the Dutch guides we use LibO green 1 and thickness 0.05 cm and do 
find it great.


Best regards




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer

2013-02-03 Thread John Smith

Hi Tim
The thing I usually do is select the file and then in the Actions menu 
item, select Check out. This locks the file, creates another copy in 
the folder, and you take away a copy to work on. Have 'Record changes' 
enabled when you open the document on your system to work on it, change 
what you think needs changing, or make suggestions, leaving comments 
(Ctrl+Alt+C) giving your reasons. Save the file on your system and 
change the filename by adding an underscore, your initials, an 
underscore and alter the date. So Title_JAS_TL_01Feb13. The date I do 
this way because I hate those long strings of numbers which are messy 
and differ country to country.
When you're done, go back to ODF, select the checked out copy in the 
folder and then in the Actions menu, select Check in.
Go to the Feedback folder, select 'Add new' and 'File' and upload your 
commented file. Once it's uploaded, go to the Draft LO 4.0 folder and 
delete the file from there.

Inform the list you've uploaded a particular file.

This may not be 'by the book' but it's what I've been doing, and works.

Regards
JohnS

On 03/02/2013 05:01, Tim Lloyd wrote:

Hi, I downloaded the writer guide from the ODF website but I could not see any 
obvious way to set status to locked. A quick look at 3.6 shows all this text is 
also current. However...

  P9 Moving quickly through a documentcontains this sentence (below the 
figure):


The Navigation toolbar (Figure 7) shows icons for all the object types shown in 
the Navigator, plus some extras (for example, the results of a  *Find* command).

shows and shown in the same sentence? shows icons for all the object types  
/displayed/ in the Navigator perhaps?

P12 The paragraph below Selecting a vertical block of text, the last sentence contains a 
number of or clauses. I think these would look better bulleted
  P14 The Caution:
Use  *Replace All* with caution; otherwise, you may end up with some hilarious 
(and highly embarrassing) mistakes.
Personally I would be emphasising the embarassing while acknowledging, in 
brackets, that the mistakes may be hilarious.

  Cheers
  Tim




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[libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide

2013-02-02 Thread John Smith

Chapters 14 and 15 uploaded to Draft 4.0 folder on ODF.

JohnS

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[libreoffice-documentation] Formatting

2013-01-28 Thread John Smith

Hi
I'm doing a chapter which has a mix of style formatting ON (Emphasis), 
and NOT ON (oooTextbody), for dialog names. What's the correct way to go 
here?


Thanks
JohnS

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Menu path on a Mac

2013-01-27 Thread John Smith

Thanks Jean and Peter for replying.

Peter makes a further comment;

There is a statement in the Preface about using LibreOffice dialogs for 
opening, saving and printing. However, printing is only for Linux and 
Mac OSX. Windows version LO 4.0 does not have LO printing dialogs.


I've revisited Preface and will use the same amended text that's used 
there in my relevant chapter. It now removes the confusion a 
Windows-only reader could have.


As a final question on this, what is the full menu path used to get to 
... Preferences  General? Is it in Tools  Options  LibreOffice 
Preferences ...? I'd like to put it in full in the document.


Thanks
John Smith

On 26/01/2013 21:23, Jean Weber wrote:

Yes, that's correct.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:48 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi
Can a Mac user please tell me if this statement is correct, as it appears in
a chapter I'm working on.

If you prefer to use the standard Mac Print dialogs, deselect the *Print
dialogs – Use LibreOffice dialogs* option in *LibreOffice  Preferences 
General*.


Thanks in advance

JohnS




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Menu path on a Mac

2013-01-27 Thread John Smith

Thanks Dan
Can you mail that directly to my email so I can see it please?

John Smith
On 27/01/2013 12:06, Dan Lewis wrote:
I have attached a screen shot of LibreOffice open on the Mac. It has a 
panel at the top like the Unity desktop. The panel contains the menus 
for any window that has been selected with the left end of the panel 
having the name of that window. For this screen shot, I had 
LibreOffice 4.0.0.0Beta2 open. When LibreOffice is clicked, a menu 
opens with Preferences being one of the choices. So, LibreOffice  
Preferences  General is the full menu path.


--Dan

On 01/27/2013 06:18 AM, John Smith wrote:

Thanks Jean and Peter for replying.

Peter makes a further comment;

There is a statement in the Preface about using LibreOffice dialogs 
for opening, saving and printing. However, printing is only for Linux 
and Mac OSX. Windows version LO 4.0 does not have LO printing dialogs.


I've revisited Preface and will use the same amended text that's used 
there in my relevant chapter. It now removes the confusion a 
Windows-only reader could have.


As a final question on this, what is the full menu path used to get 
to ... Preferences  General? Is it in Tools  Options  
LibreOffice Preferences ...? I'd like to put it in full in the 
document.


Thanks
John Smith

On 26/01/2013 21:23, Jean Weber wrote:

Yes, that's correct.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 3:48 AM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk 
wrote:

Hi
Can a Mac user please tell me if this statement is correct, as it 
appears in

a chapter I'm working on.

If you prefer to use the standard Mac Print dialogs, deselect the 
*Print
dialogs – Use LibreOffice dialogs* option in *LibreOffice  
Preferences 

General*.


Thanks in advance

JohnS










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[libreoffice-documentation] GS Guide Chapter 10

2013-01-27 Thread John Smith

Hi
This chapter uploaded to ODF  GS Draft 4.0 folder.
JohnS

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