[libreoffice-documentation] Python ideas
Hi all, A revision of a tutorial on python and LibreOffice is present in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English/Contributor%20Resources=81380 The tutorial is intended for those who start exploring macro codes written in python. It covers the relation between LibreOffice and python, (embedded/PyUno), contains sample code for writer, calc, base, XML extraction, a debug printer. It explores supplied python macros, and along the way touches upon specific python basics. In the end the follower will have a first impression of the functionality that can be achieved with python, and a basic set of macro utilities to continue writing macros. It is not a tutorial on how to write python code. I believe it is an extension to existing documentation on this subject, a bundled set of information to go from ignorant to prepared to start. Of course I am open to receive comments. Peter Heijink -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] phishing mail?
Hi team, about 1.09 hr ago i received a message through documentation@global.libreoffice.org the sender has a cyrillic name with email adres lach...@gmail.com lachend is dutch for laughing. then it says that a page needs correction This page needs a correction. ? A page at gmail.com? Is this some phishing mail? -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: python documentation, a step up
Hi Alain and Ilmari, Op 31-12-2020 om 12:24 schreef LibreOfficiant: Hi Peter, As suggested by Ilmari, writing tutorials in the wiki looks like the appropriate approach as Python newbies are your intended audience. I understand you seek for guidance, here's my take on a potential "Macros and Scripting" tutorials page for Basic, Beanshell, (C++, Java,) Javascript, and more precisely for Python: - Running Python example scripts - using LibO UI - checking for/ installing Python scripting framework (may be included in installation pages) on *nix platforms - Using the Python interactive console - native Python examples - e.g ScriptforgePythonHelper.py - typing Python UNO example scripts - import uno vs. XSCRIPTCONTEXT - APSO benefits here... - EDI benefits here.. I found it difficult to transfer what I had in mind via the mailing list. Therefore I have put my ideas in a document: python_ideas.odt It is available in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/apps/files/?dir=/LibreOffice%20Documentation/English/Contributor%20Resources=81380 It is an attempt to cover the things you suggested above. It is a document of about eight pages, do not know whether that is suited for a wiki. So now there is a concrete proposal to react on, it also reflects the level of my skills. Open for comments on the approach taken, and corrections on the content. For the moment I will leave the other thread (on wiki.documentation) as it is. regards peter -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Docs wiki
This is an addition to the remarks of Jean, here concerning Python. Hi team, I was poking around the Docs section of the wiki looking up info and following links, and I discovered there’s still a lot of out-of-date info on pages linked to up-to-date pages. No wonder newcomers often get confused. I don’t know how much energy I have for tracking down and fixing problems, and I know that others have been doing the same, but there is so much of it. Jean 1) from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros > programmers guide > useful functions> you land on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Python_Guide/Useful_functions it contains some code, also the msgbox function. This page does not have a link to the next landing 2) from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros > programmers guide > working with documents > you land on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Python_Guide/Documents much more code snippets, in the middle with a remark referencing the previous page 3) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Python_Guide/Documents#Open same contents as previous page, don't know how i landed there 4) In the menu bar of mentioned pages, there are entries for writer - calc and so on, clicking on these will bring you to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/writer showing how to manipulate libreoffice objects in various languages side by side. Objects different from all the previous pages 5) an entry in the same menu bar is labelled as Basic/Python which brings you to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Basic_Primitives loads of basic code (interesting for https://gitlab.com/LibreOfficiant/scriptforge/-/tree/scriptforge-7-1/Help)?, no python (intention failed?). Anyhow, the menu title suggests otherwise I have the feeling that information, for python, is scattered over the website. In general I should say a webpage starts with a wide focus, and upon navigating the focus is narrowed by descriptive links. Of course you can navigate trough different ways to end on the same page. But now there are concurrent ways that never meet and lead to different pages with different content ? who does the webpage content and navigation, most of the mails here seem to be dealing with the information in nextcloud. peter heijink -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] python documentation, a step up
Alain, Thanks for the welcome and links you sent. If there are better locations to share the load of information in this mail, I would like to receive directions. As newbie I did not discover them. For a quick digestion read the more fundamental question thrown at the bottom. In the Q+A site there is a question about an autoincremented number inserted in a document (receipt or order) as a barcode. I answered the question in python code. The poster will be left with a working answer that he can not implement. The post is viewed about once a day. The moderate BASIC user, posting a question, it the user I have in mind. My own background is that i am not educated as a programmer, but I can teach myself new things, if information is available at the right starting level. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Macros/Python_Design_Guide -- Alain I know the page. The page is loaded with information, and follows cocurrent and alternative paths, I find it not an easy step by step guide for a newbie. How to enter debug mode with APSO is not clear to me, the screenshot is suddenly there. Above pages confirm my impression that python users are in general educated programmers and know already the concepts and can work with it. The python rocket is ignited from the top of the himalaya. I would like to stay with the users in the valley and guide them a bit uphill and do the ignition there. https://gitlab.com/LibreOfficiant/scriptforge/-/tree/scriptforge-7-1/Help -- Alain Is an interesting project, as I understand it, it will result in the 7.1 version to a list of macros in the 'LibreOffice macros' section. These macros in basic and python. That will certainly be useful. However, I fear it will be restricted to LibreOffice functions only. It raises the strategic question: ?? Is the document foundation only responsible for documentation to run LibreOffice, or should we also include additional functionality: be more outreaching. Make that available in a tutorial: reading XML invoices, sending invoices directly to a customer, the barcode example given in the top. If there is a strict border then I leave a major part out of the idea I have in mind. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] get access to nextcloud / olivier hallot
Hi reader, ?Olivier Hallot? with reference to "After your login is confirmed, contact the Documentation leader through the mailing list to obtain access to the LibreOffice Documentation folder on TDF NextCloud." i would like to get access to see what is going on. My SSO account name is peterH Among others i would like to add to the wiki pages regarding python. /Lowering the threshold/ for BASIC users to make the step to python, in a simple manner, no IDE environment. Part of the idea is to create a downloadable python file with functions that will make python /attractive/ to implement. The file contains functions that show an extension of the functionality of LibreOffice, that can not be achieved with basic: - insert an autoincremented number as barcode or QR code - send a document as PDF attachment using the address book of Thunderbird - store invoice data in a database, data extracted from a received invoice in XML format - MRI objects (trivial but useful ) - use the dispatcher (identical) - write debug output to a writer document So it remains at the application level, and leave the user prepared for the next step, own macro writing, upgrading to IDE... Of course if this interacts with projects/ideas in development i would like to share with that. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] new member
Hi reader, I'm a satisfied user of LO, since seven years now. Focus on base and programming macros, some of them written in python. The question of this mail is: * can you assign me to the right team / tasks? * is the contribution driven by the needs of the documentation team, or can initiatives of the volunteer be granted as well? I noticed that (base) python programming is less abundant, in usage and documentation. I'm willing to contribute and add documentation on this subject. Regarding skills, i am 64, retired and not educated as a programmer, though with a background in engineering and some programming languages. Looking forward to what you believe can be a suitable area to work on. kind regards peter heijink -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
