Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Figure captions in a single line

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Hi Peter

Like Jean said.
Go to the image properties.
At the Type page, unselect "Relative to"

Cheers,
Kees



Peter Schofield schreef op 14.06.2022 10:28:

I am updating the chapter template for the LO user guide chapters and
I am trying to solve a problem on figure captions that was raised by
Olivier.

How do you expand the width off a figure frame without changing the
existing width and height of the image?

In other words, I am trying to make the frame surrounding an image
wider than the image itself so that a figure caption is on one line.

I have tried several ways by changing frame properties, but as yet no 
access.


Does anyone have a solution that would be easy for everybody to use?

Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Bug 135501 - Change the default UI

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Hi Peter

To use the Notebookbar, you have to choose the option Tabbed.

Regards, Kees

Peter Schofield schreef op 22.05.2022 09:47:

Hello Martin

I can only agree with your comments. It is just that I am concerned
about what changes are involved to the user guides.

One thing I would like to know is how do I set my LibreOffice to using
the Notebook Bar. I have switched on experimental features and opened
View - User Interface on the Menu bar, but there is no Notebook Bar
offered as an option. Yet, in LibreOffice > Preferences > LibreOffice
> View > Icon Size the Notebook Bar is there as an option. Some help please.

One thing that I think should be carried out is a spelling correction.
Change all instances of Notebookbar to the correct spelling of
Notebook Bar. Definitely does not look good when there are spelling
errors in the user interface.

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On 21 May 2022, at 18:15, Martin Srebotnjak  wrote:

Hello, Peter,

Regarding the Touch Bar:
- if I buy a computer with it (and spend more money), I expect it to 
bring much joy to the use of my new laptop;
- if I am not satisfied with the Bar, I cannot remove it physically 
from the computer, it stands there and lights up every once in a 
while, reminding me how well I spent my money;
- I could use the 30-day money-back guarantee option, but that one 
might not be available in my region (and requires some additional 
effort and potentially even cost on my side).


Regarding the LO UI-type change:
- I haven't spent any money on the new UI, it is already present in 
previous versions, maybe I even played with it before (or have it 
enabled) and it is already described in all of the documentation;
- if I do not like the new interface, I can switch back to the old one 
(OK, some users with basic computer knowledge might have a problem 
with that, so they need to be assisted in some way by a wizard or some 
UI tool);
- *if I am not mistaken* - this would only change for users without a 
user profile, i.e. without previous versions of LO installed - all 
others would get the UI they used with the old/previous version of LO? 
So if they are not used to LO and come from MSO, the notebookbar might 
seem a more logical choice for starting the software for the first 
time.


Of course, there will be users fighting about which UI is better, but 
... de gustibus non disputandum est.


Lp, m.

V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 11:22 je oseba Peter Schofield 
mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala:

Hello Martin

I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. 
However, the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little.


Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a 
physical option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now 
rethinking the Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be 
completely dropped because it was not all that successful. Using this 
reasoning, I think that a Notebookbar UI may also not be that 
successful.


The Standard UI is great to use.

Regards
Peter Schofield
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Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak > wrote:


Hi,

I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the 
teams (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of 
such a change (if being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should 
be informed by the time of the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare 
accordingly (maybe the Documentation team will then decide to not 
work on 7.4 guides but start rewriting the online help and the 
chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with that change in mind - the 
default gui does not change the functionality itself, just its 
accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in guides, so a 
lot of work can be done even before 7.5a1 is available, even today).


And another thing - there will be a lot of opposition to such a 
change - so maybe when released - there should be a guide/wizard at 
the first start of the suite to offer and explain/visualize the *two* 
(not 6 or 8) options - classic vs. notebookbar. But I can't even 
imagine the fuss this would create with help content and 
documentation, always mentioning the two possibilities when 
describing the access to toolbar icons/items ...


Peter, I understand you - but I think it is inevitable that such a 
change would come. And many changes to documentation as well.


Lp, m.

V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 09:48 je oseba Peter Schofield 
mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala:
I keep getting messages about "Bug 135501 - Change the default UI” 
which has raised a question for me and would like some opinion on 
this.


Being one of the volunteers writing the user guides, would it mean 
that I have to completely update and change the user guides to suit a 
Notebookbar UI ???


I would like more information on this change to the 

[libreoffice-documentation] Weblate right HanV

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Can user HanV have the same rights as I have in Weblate.
Like accepting or removong suggestions.

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Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum, important information and feedback wanted.

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Olivier Hallot schreef op 11.05.2022 22:39:

Hi Team

Some important questions to answer or to know on the creation of the
Documentation forum. Please voice your opinion.

1) Do you want an automatic subscription to the forum, based on the
current subscription of the DOc' mailing list? PLease note:


I think I prefer automatic subscription.


   + automatic subscription will be done for people with a login at
TDF (the one you have for NextCloud, for example)

   + If you prefer to do it yourself, you can use the login you have
in TDF (the same as used in NextCloud). You can also define a
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https://user.documentfoundation.org/edit )

   + The Forum has its own set of options (gear icon on the top left)
where you can adjust the settings of your forum account, including the
frequency of forum notification mails sent to you.

2) The current doc mailing list contents has been imported to the test
site and will be imported to the production forum. Therefore:

+ Shall we close the doc mailing list (no more posts there)?


I think so. two sources seems confusing to me.


+ Shall we leave it open for posting?.
+ WARNING: There is no way to bridge the 2 messaging systems.


One source seems better to me.


Duplication of contents and division of the team is likely to bring
confusion and loss of synergy.


Agree.


3) We can have one main category "Documentation" and several
subcategories. For example, the subcategories could be "Guides" and
"Help".
+ Does subcategories are actually needed? Do you have another
subcategory to suggest? or...
+ Shall we have just one main category will all subjects in, and
filter with tags?


Tags seem fine to me. But maybe two subcategories, UI and Help.



The Production Forum is expected to start early june 2022.

Thank you for your inputs, they are important for us to deliver the
best service.


Best regards,
Kees


Kind regards

Olivier

 Mensagem encaminhada 
Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Documentation forum
Data: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:07:08 -0300
De: Olivier Hallot 
Organização: The Document Foundation
Para: LibreOffice Documentation 

Hi Team

Our infra team has set up a test site for a documentation forum, based
on the documentation mailing list. The documentation mailing list
history has been imported to it. Please have a look at

https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/195

And let us know if you have comments and suggestions on the new forum.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide 7.3

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Hi Regina

I updated the status sheet with your review.
Please keep this sheet up to date.

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Regina Henschel schreef op 10.04.2022 21:01:

Hi Peter,

Peter Schofield schrieb am 10.04.2022 um 12:01:
Version 01 of the following chapters for the Draw Guide 7.3 are in the 
Work In Progress folder on NextCloud ready for their review and 
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I have added some comments to DG7307 3D Objects.

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of IG7301-Introducing-Impress

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I have given IG7301-Introducing-Impress a first review.
Mainly the part about running a presentation is not right in my opinion.
It describes that the Presenter console opens automatically when 
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In my opinion that only happens when an external display is connected.
In my opinion this part has to be rewritten.
See chapter 9.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Redirection of LO menu

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This is also the case for the Dutch community.
We do not maintain the page that is in the Help menu.
I have made a change request in bugzilla, because this can not be 
changed.


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Y.Sol.lei schreef op 23.12.2021 09:50:

Hi, all!
The menu "User guides" in 'Help' section (in Ukrainian UI) has the link 
to

https://documentation.libreoffice.org/uk/, which is currently missing.
There's no translation of user guides to Ukrainian language for now.
Q: how to redirect this menu entry to the page with English user guides 
(

https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/english-documentation/) ?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of the Archive folder after publishing

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Hi Oliver

I can delete the folder myself indeed. And I have alreay done so.
But thanks for offering.

Kind regards,
Kees


Olivier Hallot schreef op 24.11.2021 12:54:

Hi Kees

You probably can do it yourself (I'm not confident of my Dutch, so I'm
hesitant to guess what is to delete).

If not, I can try but let me know what to delete ! :-)

NextCloud does not delete files and folders immediately but use a
recycle bin. This recycle bin is progressively emptied according to a
given % of the remaining free space. The policy is to shred older
files in the bin when the % limit is reached.

Kind regards

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Em 24/11/2021 03:09, kees...@libreoffice.org escreveu:
The Dutch community decided that the (Dutch) Archive folder can be 
deleted after publishing a Guide.

This can save a lot of storage space.

Cheers,
Kees

kees...@libreoffice.org schreef op 19.11.2021 09:21:

All

On Nextlcoud here are several folders for the process op developing 
Guides.

Work in Progress, Archive and Published.
After publishing a Guide, the folder Work in Progress is removed.
But the Archive folder is kept.
What is the use of the Archive folder after publishing?
In my opinion it takes a lot of storing space is there is no use for 
it.

Maybe this folder can be removed too?

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of the Archive folder after publishing

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The Dutch community decided that the (Dutch) Archive folder can be 
deleted after publishing a Guide.

This can save a lot of storage space.

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kees...@libreoffice.org schreef op 19.11.2021 09:21:

All

On Nextlcoud here are several folders for the process op developing 
Guides.

Work in Progress, Archive and Published.
After publishing a Guide, the folder Work in Progress is removed.
But the Archive folder is kept.
What is the use of the Archive folder after publishing?
In my opinion it takes a lot of storing space is there is no use for 
it.

Maybe this folder can be removed too?

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[libreoffice-documentation] Use of the Archive folder after publishing

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All

On Nextlcoud here are several folders for the process op developing 
Guides.

Work in Progress, Archive and Published.
After publishing a Guide, the folder Work in Progress is removed.
But the Archive folder is kept.
What is the use of the Archive folder after publishing?
In my opinion it takes a lot of storing space is there is no use for it.
Maybe this folder can be removed too?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Second review of CG7215-User Interface Variants

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Steve Fanning schreef op 02.11.2021 21:20:

Thanks Kees.

I accepted your first suggestion to improve wording.

I preferred not to implement the comment on the Print tab (Figure 43).
I agree that this tab is sparsely populated and so its figure could be
compressed. However, the screenshots for all tabs were grabbed from a
screen set to a constant pixel resolution, leaving the figures for all
tabs to be a consistent size, split in two at approximately the same
position. I felt compressing the Print tab might save a little
whitespace but at the cost of consistency. I hope that's okay with
you.


It was just a suggestion.
No problem if you leave it like it is.

Regards,
Kees


I have returned the updated chapter to the Work in Progress folder.

Regards,

Steve


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I have given CG7215-User Interface Variants a second review.
Did not find any errors, but added two suggestions.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] First Review of CG7216

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Hi Stve

I will give chapter 15 the second review.

Cheees, Kees

Steve Fanning schreef op 01.11.2021 22:24:

Hi All,

With regards to the overall need for a second review of the book, I
feel that most of the chapters probably don’t warrant further review.
However, given that I implemented the changes to all chapters of this
update, then I guess you might expect me to think that!

I would prefer Chapter 15 (User Interface Variants) to be reviewed a
second time if that is possible. This is a new chapter for the Calc
Guide and hence doesn’t have the review history of the other chapters.

Other than that, the review comments that we’ve processed during first
review don’t seem to indicate any underlying problem with any
established chapter. This leads me to think it not worth spending
people’s time reviewing any of them again.

Can I suggest the following way ahead?

1. Please would somebody perform a second review of Chapter 15?
2. Let’s aim to start the publication process on Saturday next week
   (2021-11-12). If anybody feels an urge to review any other chapters
   further, then feel free to do so before then.

Does this sound okay or does anybody feel strongly that more reviewing
time is needed? If nobody expresses any reasonable objections, then
I’ll go ahead with the above.

Regards,

Steve


On 01/11/2021 12:56, Rafael Lima wrote:

Hi Team!

I have just uploaded my first review of chapter CG7216. The file is in 
the

WIP folder.

I added a new shortcut and made a few comments for consideration.

Steve, now all chapters have either been reviewed or are under review. 
Will

a second review be needed for all chapters?

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This is a very small chaper with minor (style)errors.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] HEADS UP! File Sharing in NextCloud - Please READ.

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Hi Oliver

I am very happy that external sharing has been restored.
Thank you very much for your mediation.

Kind regards,
Kees

Olivier Hallot schreef op 25.10.2021 20:28:

HI Authors

tl;dr (*): "LibreOffice Documentation" group folder  file sharing has
been re-enabled but Authors "MUST NOT use the input field “Name,
email, or Federated Cloud ID” to create named shares."

Long story:

Our NextCloud service was recently reconfigured to fix an issue on
sharing files from the /LibreOffice Documentation/ group folder
(/LD/).

A quick fix approach was to block sharing files from the LD group
folder and locate the offending share in the database. The LD group
folder was set read-only to the general Nextcloud users but only the
odfauthors group members are allowed to write/upload/edit files in the
LD group folder.

However this also broke the public sharing, in which our documents
were exposed for download by the general public. Many pages and web
contents linked to publicly shared NextCloud contents and these links
were then broken.

So we reverted the block and re-enabled the file sharing, included the
public file sharing.

Here is the message from Guilhem, our infra leader:

"Re-enabled sharing for now…  But odfauthors need to make sure they
NEVER share to Nextcloud groups or named individuals.  Generic share
links generated with the “Share link” button seem to be harmless, but
they MUST NOT use the input field “Name, email, or Federated Cloud ID”
to create named shares."

So please let's pay attention to sharing files from the LibreOffice
Documentation group folder. Guilhem indicated that it looks like a
Nextcloud bug or issue and to fix a sharing issue like this requires
his intervention directly in NextCloud control database, a maneuver
far from trivial, critical, dangerous, time consuming and absolutely
not advisable.

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Re: HEADS UP ! Nextcloud file sharing... was: Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2 chapter reviews, and spreadsheet error message

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Hi Oliver

Thanks. I will wait a bit before trying to find another way to publish.

Regards, Kees

Olivier Hallot schreef op 25.10.2021 03:25:

Hi Kees.
Same in other situations. I'll try to get Guilhem and find a solution.

Olivier

Em 23/10/2021 02:33, kees...@libreoffice.org escreveu:

That is a big problem for the Dutch community.
We have shared al our Guides externaly and published the link in the 
LibreOffice site.

So no Guide can be accessed anymore by the Dutch users.
Now we have to find out how it works to publish them via Wiki, which 
we have not done before.
Further more it wil be a hell of a job to publish all the Guides 
again.

Is there no other solution?


Regards, Kees


Olivier Hallot schreef op 21.10.2021 14:00:

Hi Doc team

Until we find a solution, the "LibreOffice Documentation" group 
folder

- which caused troubles recently - sharing of files in this folder is
disabled.

Every NextCloud user has access to "LibreOffice Documentation" group
folder in read-only mode and only users in the "odfauthors" group 
have

write access.

One of the consequences is that we cannot publicly share any file in
this group folder. To share a file, either copy it out of the group
folder and share or put the file in another service such as the wiki.
If you have publicly shared files or folders you must review them
because the links are now dead.

Regards
Olivier


 Mensagem encaminhada 
Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2 chapter
reviews, and spreadsheet error message
Data: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:34:05 +0530
De: Vasudev Narayanan 
Para: LibreOffice 

Greetings -

The hostmaster team states that:

It's arguably a nextcloud bug but the problem seems to be caused 
by the
double-share mess.  I removed all named shares and replaced it 
with a
read-only access in the group folder itself (and disabled 
re-shared so
it doesn't happen again).  That means no one can access it from 
/Shared
anymore, instead everyone accesses it from the group folder at 
the root;

but of course non Doc Team members only have readonly access.

Thank you
-Dev


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Re: HEADS UP ! Nextcloud file sharing... was: Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2 chapter reviews, and spreadsheet error message

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That is a big problem for the Dutch community.
We have shared al our Guides externaly and published the link in the 
LibreOffice site.

So no Guide can be accessed anymore by the Dutch users.
Now we have to find out how it works to publish them via Wiki, which we 
have not done before.

Further more it wil be a hell of a job to publish all the Guides again.
Is there no other solution?


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Olivier Hallot schreef op 21.10.2021 14:00:

Hi Doc team

Until we find a solution, the "LibreOffice Documentation" group folder
- which caused troubles recently - sharing of files in this folder is
disabled.

Every NextCloud user has access to "LibreOffice Documentation" group
folder in read-only mode and only users in the "odfauthors" group have
write access.

One of the consequences is that we cannot publicly share any file in
this group folder. To share a file, either copy it out of the group
folder and share or put the file in another service such as the wiki.
If you have publicly shared files or folders you must review them
because the links are now dead.

Regards
Olivier


 Mensagem encaminhada 
Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2 chapter
reviews, and spreadsheet error message
Data: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 06:34:05 +0530
De: Vasudev Narayanan 
Para: LibreOffice 

Greetings -

The hostmaster team states that:

	It's arguably a nextcloud bug but the problem seems to be caused by 
the

double-share mess.  I removed all named shares and replaced it with a
read-only access in the group folder itself (and disabled re-shared so
	it doesn't happen again).  That means no one can access it from 
/Shared
	anymore, instead everyone accesses it from the group folder at the 
root;

but of course non Doc Team members only have readonly access.

Thank you
-Dev


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] missing option in Nextclud

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Hi Oliver

I checked and the documents are not shared internally.
The sharing panel on the right is just missing.
And what is more.
Al the document that where shared before are no longer shared.
When they are clicked on the LibreOffice page the user gets the message 
that the file is not found on the server.

So no documents can be opend by end users anymore.

Regards, Kees

Olivier Hallot schreef op 19.10.2021 14:47:

Hi Kees

Please make sure the document you want to publicly share is not
already internally a shared document. External sharing of an
internally shared document can be (conservatively) seen as a security
breach.

Either share a copy of the shared doc, or un-share the doc to later
publicly share it.

Non-shared docs have a public-share option in the sharing panel on the 
right.


Regards
Olivier


Em 19/10/2021 05:15, kees...@libreoffice.org escreveu:

All

In Nextcloud I miss the option to create a link for publication of a 
document.
At the and of a line there was an icon to open a submenu to choose to 
share the document.

Is is missing now.

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All

In Nextcloud I miss the option to create a link for publication of a 
document.
At the and of a line there was an icon to open a submenu to choose to 
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Is is missing now.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress Guide 7.2 chapter reviews, and spreadsheet error message

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Hi Peter

I do not think that was the solution, because I did this before with the 
Dutch spreadsheet with no effect.

Probably someone fixed it.

Cheers, Kees


Peter Schofield schreef op 08.10.2021 09:20:

Hello Dev

I have just downloaded the Impress Guide spreadsheet, then made a
change for Appendix A and saved the spreadsheet on my Mac Mini.
Uploaded the IG spreadsheet back to NextCloud. Overwrote the old
spreadsheet so that the IG spreadsheet is a new copy.
Made a small change to the spreadsheet and saved it on NextCloud
without any problems.
Conclusion is that the previous version of the IG spreadsheet must
have become corrupted.
It now appears to be working OK with my new version.
Please try it and let me know what happens.

Regards
Peter Schofield
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Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team

On 8 Oct 2021, at 03:31, Vasudev Narayanan  
wrote:


Greetings -

It is still unresolved. I have been following up with the hostmaster 
team. They were trying to search the log files for further analysis. 
The last I heard from them was that this is not a bug. Later, I 
captured and sent the snapshots to them. I am yet to hear from them.


I wrote to them now to understand if they were able to find something.

Maybe if we could move/create the spreadsheet tracker to another 
folder like within the WIP folder , will that work?


Until the original issue gets resolved, we could find an alternative 
method.


Thank you

-Dev



On 07-Oct-21 18:50, rachel kartch wrote:
Yes, still having issues. I still have the document open from my 
earlier attempt to update it, which is why you see I'm editing, but I 
can't save my changes. When I try to save I get the error others have 
reported, "Document cannot be saved. Check your permissions or 
contact the storage server administrator."


It appears your modifications are taking effect but not those of 
other users. If you look at the document information for the past 
week, the only changes listed under "Activity" are two changes by you 
(today and 6 days ago). Peter was most recently able to update the 
document 7 days ago, and others of us prior to that, but no one 
except you has been able to save for a week now. It would appear 
someone changed the permissions on the document or on the folder 
about a week ago.



Rachel

On 2021-10-07 09:11, Olivier Hallot wrote:

Hi Rachel

I opened the sṕreadsheet in the NextCloud web interface and I can 
edit
it (I added my name). I see you are also editing the file at the 
same

time.
Are you still having issues on your side?
Regards
Olivier


Em 07/10/2021 09:22, rachel kartch escreveu:

Hello all:

I've just uploaded IG7203 second review to the WIP folder, and 
archived the previous version of the chapter.


I'm checking out IG7204 for second review, expected return date 
October 13.


I'm continuing to get the spreadsheet save error that Peter 
reported earlier today, and that Vasudev and I both reported last 
week, so unfortunately my attempts to update the spreadsheet don't 
appear to be saving. As of October 2 I see Vasudev reported that 
someone was looking into the issue--I wonder if there are any 
updates?



Rachel



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress guide 7.2 spreadsheet error message

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It is working again.
So problem solved I quess.

kees...@libreoffice.org schreef op 08.10.2021 07:41:
I have this problem too with the Dutch version of the control 
spreadsheet.
A workaround is to download the spreadsheet, change it, and upload 
again.

Of course it would be better if the problem is solved.

Kind regards,Kees

Peter Schofield schreef op 07.10.2021 10:18:

Just had a break for a few days and getting back to LO work. I are now
getting the following error message each time I try to save the
control spreadsheet for the Impress guide 7.2

"Document cannot be saved. Check your permissions or contact the
storage server administrator.”

Can someone sort this problem so that I can keep the progress of the
Impress guide up to date.

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I have this problem too with the Dutch version of the control 
spreadsheet.
A workaround is to download the spreadsheet, change it, and upload 
again.

Of course it would be better if the problem is solved.

Kind regards,Kees

Peter Schofield schreef op 07.10.2021 10:18:

Just had a break for a few days and getting back to LO work. I are now
getting the following error message each time I try to save the
control spreadsheet for the Impress guide 7.2

"Document cannot be saved. Check your permissions or contact the
storage server administrator.”

Can someone sort this problem so that I can keep the progress of the
Impress guide up to date.

Regards
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psaut...@gmail.com
Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team


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[libreoffice-documentation] I have given WG7205-PagesBasics a first review

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I have given WG7205-PagesBasics a first review.
I mainly replaced some images, as requested.

Kees

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of WG7204-FormattingText

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I have given WG7204-FormattingText a firts review.
I mainly replaced some images, as requested.

Kees

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of WG7211-ImagesAndGraphics

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I have given WG7211-ImagesAndGraphics a first review.

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