Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On 14/05/2011, at 11:50, planas wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 21:20 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: > >> Are we going to use version 2.0 or 3.0? Is it good enough to cover the whole >> blog? We can put the link in a text box in the sidebar with the posts are >> solely the opinions of the authors and do not express official policy of The >> Document Foundation nor LibreOffice. >> *John Shabanowitz >> http://libodocs.wordpress.com >> We're recruiting, come join us.* >> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Weber wrote: >> >>> We also need a copyright statement (the CC-BY-SA, I think it is) and a >>> statement that posts by individuals don't necessarily reflect official >>> policy. Not sure of wording of the latter and don't have time right now to >>> look it up. >>> >>> --Jean >>> > > Is there any way to have a template with the notices already included? Yes, all of that goes into the sidebar so it shows on every page of the blog. No need to add any of it to individual posts. > --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 21:20 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: > Are we going to use version 2.0 or 3.0? Is it good enough to cover the whole > blog? We can put the link in a text box in the sidebar with the posts are > solely the opinions of the authors and do not express official policy of The > Document Foundation nor LibreOffice. > *John Shabanowitz > http://libodocs.wordpress.com > We're recruiting, come join us.* > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > > > We also need a copyright statement (the CC-BY-SA, I think it is) and a > > statement that posts by individuals don't necessarily reflect official > > policy. Not sure of wording of the latter and don't have time right now to > > look it up. > > > > --Jean > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > > Is there any way to have a template with the notices already included? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On 14/05/2011, at 11:20, John Shabanowitz wrote: > Are we going to use version 2.0 or 3.0? 3.0. I believe that is what is used on the LibreOffice website and the TDF blog. > Is it good enough to cover the whole blog? Yes. That is, I believe, who it's usually handled. It's possible to put a different copyright statement in specific posts, for example a guest post. > We can put the link in a text box in the sidebar with the posts are > solely the opinions of the authors and do not express official policy of The > Document Foundation nor LibreOffice. Yes. > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > >> We also need a copyright statement (the CC-BY-SA, I think it is) and a >> statement that posts by individuals don't necessarily reflect official >> policy. Not sure of wording of the latter and don't have time right now to >> look it up. >> >> --Jean >> -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
Are we going to use version 2.0 or 3.0? Is it good enough to cover the whole blog? We can put the link in a text box in the sidebar with the posts are solely the opinions of the authors and do not express official policy of The Document Foundation nor LibreOffice. *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > We also need a copyright statement (the CC-BY-SA, I think it is) and a > statement that posts by individuals don't necessarily reflect official > policy. Not sure of wording of the latter and don't have time right now to > look it up. > > --Jean > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
We also need a copyright statement (the CC-BY-SA, I think it is) and a statement that posts by individuals don't necessarily reflect official policy. Not sure of wording of the latter and don't have time right now to look it up. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
It looks good John! ~Elliot On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 5:34 PM, John Shabanowitz wrote: > I think we'll have to settle for whatever wordpress.org offers as their > widget. I'll put the cloud on the sidebar. We can decide to keep it or not, > later. > *John Shabanowitz > http://libodocs.wordpress.com > We're recruiting, come join us.* > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Elliot Turner >wrote: > > > What Lana said. > > > > It's good that you're organizing this ahead of time. It will help keep > > everything in order as the blog develops. > > > > A good way of thinking about it is that tags might give a small SEO bump > to > > a post by repeating keywords, whereas categories make a blog easier for > > users to navigate through content in order to find what they want. Tags > are > > less likely to be noticed by someone browsing the blog. And they really > > don't need to be predetermined for the blog authors since the keywords > can > > be pretty specific to the article. > > > > I will say, though, Lana's idea to showcase a tag cloud is definitely a > > good > > one. You never know what will catch someone's eye. If you do add a tag > > cloud, I advise against an animated cloud. That's a personal preference. > > The > > flash graphics annoy me. :) > > > > > > ~Elliot > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
I think we'll have to settle for whatever wordpress.org offers as their widget. I'll put the cloud on the sidebar. We can decide to keep it or not, later. *John Shabanowitz http://libodocs.wordpress.com We're recruiting, come join us.* On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Elliot Turner wrote: > What Lana said. > > It's good that you're organizing this ahead of time. It will help keep > everything in order as the blog develops. > > A good way of thinking about it is that tags might give a small SEO bump to > a post by repeating keywords, whereas categories make a blog easier for > users to navigate through content in order to find what they want. Tags are > less likely to be noticed by someone browsing the blog. And they really > don't need to be predetermined for the blog authors since the keywords can > be pretty specific to the article. > > I will say, though, Lana's idea to showcase a tag cloud is definitely a > good > one. You never know what will catch someone's eye. If you do add a tag > cloud, I advise against an animated cloud. That's a personal preference. > The > flash graphics annoy me. :) > > > ~Elliot > > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
What Lana said. It's good that you're organizing this ahead of time. It will help keep everything in order as the blog develops. A good way of thinking about it is that tags might give a small SEO bump to a post by repeating keywords, whereas categories make a blog easier for users to navigate through content in order to find what they want. Tags are less likely to be noticed by someone browsing the blog. And they really don't need to be predetermined for the blog authors since the keywords can be pretty specific to the article. I will say, though, Lana's idea to showcase a tag cloud is definitely a good one. You never know what will catch someone's eye. If you do add a tag cloud, I advise against an animated cloud. That's a personal preference. The flash graphics annoy me. :) ~Elliot On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:29 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: > > On 05/13/2011 11:17 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: > > > > > >> Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over > > >> the other. > > > > > > > > > Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more > > > that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, > > > one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or > > > should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? > > > > > > My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even > > > asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an > > > explanation somewhere, that might help. > > > > > > --Jean > > > > > > > Sorry, that was a very abrupt answer, wasn't it! > > > > I'm sure everyone uses these things differently, but on my own website, > > I use categories as a broad organisational structure, and tags as a more > > fine-tuned one. > > > > For example, an article about using fixed rows/columns in Calc might use > > the categories "Calc" and "Help", and the tags "Calc", "Help", > > "Formatting", "Spreadsheet", and "Rows/Columns". > > > > I present categories on my site as a list, and tags as a tag cloud. This > > gives two different methods of interaction for users. People can > > interact with whichever they feel most comfortable with, and it also > > provides two different ways of presenting the info to catch a reader's > > eye as they're reading the main text on the site. > > > > Hope that helps! > > > It does help, very much! Thanks, Lana. > > --Jean > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 11:29 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: > On 05/13/2011 11:17 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: > > > >> Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over > >> the other. > > > > > > Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more > > that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, > > one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or > > should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? > > > > My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even > > asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an > > explanation somewhere, that might help. > > > > --Jean > > > > Sorry, that was a very abrupt answer, wasn't it! > > I'm sure everyone uses these things differently, but on my own website, > I use categories as a broad organisational structure, and tags as a more > fine-tuned one. > > For example, an article about using fixed rows/columns in Calc might use > the categories "Calc" and "Help", and the tags "Calc", "Help", > "Formatting", "Spreadsheet", and "Rows/Columns". > > I present categories on my site as a list, and tags as a tag cloud. This > gives two different methods of interaction for users. People can > interact with whichever they feel most comfortable with, and it also > provides two different ways of presenting the info to catch a reader's > eye as they're reading the main text on the site. > > Hope that helps! It does help, very much! Thanks, Lana. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On 05/13/2011 11:17 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an explanation somewhere, that might help. --Jean Sorry, that was a very abrupt answer, wasn't it! I'm sure everyone uses these things differently, but on my own website, I use categories as a broad organisational structure, and tags as a more fine-tuned one. For example, an article about using fixed rows/columns in Calc might use the categories "Calc" and "Help", and the tags "Calc", "Help", "Formatting", "Spreadsheet", and "Rows/Columns". I present categories on my site as a list, and tags as a tag cloud. This gives two different methods of interaction for users. People can interact with whichever they feel most comfortable with, and it also provides two different ways of presenting the info to catch a reader's eye as they're reading the main text on the site. Hope that helps! L -- Lana Brindley Content Author Engineering Content Services +61 7 3514 8178 - ext (85) 88178 RHEL5 RHCT: 605008757717273 RHEL5 RHCSA: 100-043-694 "See first that the design is wise and just: that ascertained, pursue it resolutely; do not for one repulse forego the purpose that you resolved to effect." William Shakespeare, on why planning is important. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 10:57 +1000, Lana Brindley wrote: > Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over > the other. Is one or the other preferred for particular purposes? Or is it more that individual readers might prefer, or be more accustomed to using, one or the other? Which would be better for us to use on the blog? Or should we use both, to appeal to both user groups? My ignorance on this subject is so great that I have difficulty even asking an intelligent question! If anyone has a pointer to an explanation somewhere, that might help. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
On 05/13/2011 10:43 AM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: I have created a bunch of Categories for the posts on our blog, and will add more as we think of them. Please assign categories to your posts to help people find them in future when we have a lot. You, or an editor or admin, can go back and add, remove, or change categories on individual posts later if necessary. Things I've been looking at are: * Announcement of new/updated books vs tips/howtos * Which component (Writer, Calc, Impress) * For tips/howtos, user level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) * LibreOffice release? Or are Categories old-fashioned and Tags should be used instead? I'm not sure. Indeed, I'm a bit vague on what the two are for. Not my area of expertise, but I'm trying to catch up! --Jean Tags and categories can complement each other. No need to use one over the other. L -- Lana Brindley Content Author Engineering Content Services +61 7 3514 8178 - ext (85) 88178 RHEL5 RHCT: 605008757717273 RHEL5 RHCSA: 100-043-694 "See first that the design is wise and just: that ascertained, pursue it resolutely; do not for one repulse forego the purpose that you resolved to effect." William Shakespeare, on why planning is important. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Categorising posts on the Docs blog
I have created a bunch of Categories for the posts on our blog, and will add more as we think of them. Please assign categories to your posts to help people find them in future when we have a lot. You, or an editor or admin, can go back and add, remove, or change categories on individual posts later if necessary. Things I've been looking at are: * Announcement of new/updated books vs tips/howtos * Which component (Writer, Calc, Impress) * For tips/howtos, user level (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced) * LibreOffice release? Or are Categories old-fashioned and Tags should be used instead? I'm not sure. Indeed, I'm a bit vague on what the two are for. Not my area of expertise, but I'm trying to catch up! --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
