[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Book distribution, production, and related matters
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 04:48:09 PM you wrote: On Monday, March 17, 2014 06:39:24 AM you wrote: I changed the subject line. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:01 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Book distribution, production, and related matters
Hi Tim, Thanks for doing all of this, much appreciated. -- Marc Le 17/03/14 11:38 PM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com a écrit : All, All of the manuals with the exception of the plug-in installation manual are now live on Google Play Books. The issues with Draw are not resolved, it was corrupted during upload. I also tried out the Draw Manual on my Moto G Through The Google Play Books Android app and it displays well although it requires zooming and scrolling. These will display nicely though on 7 8 10 Android tablets though and they do work well through the Chrome web browser directly from Google Play as well. Hopefully this will provide some additional advertising for LibreOffice and possibly help to further adoption. There have been 8 sales transactions so far but only two that were not mine. I have collected a few +1's though. If anyone is currently a Safari Books user please check to see if they are available there and if not request that they start carrying them. This would be a nice addition with their IT Books service! Tim -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Book distribution, production, and related matters
On Monday, March 17, 2014 06:39:24 AM you wrote: I changed the subject line. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:01 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim Jean, According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The PE, US and VE sales regions. I
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Book distribution, production, and related matters
On Monday, March 17, 2014 06:39:24 AM you wrote: I changed the subject line. On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 6:01 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2014 09:47:33 AM you wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 6:58 AM, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:24:11 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 03:15:06 AM you wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim Jean, I attempted to upload the .ODT version hoping to make it an additional available format for download but Google currently rejects that file type. It is limited to PDF, epub as well as cover art in jpeg/gif. Tim Jean, According to Google The getting started guide is now live and online in The PE, US and VE sales regions. I
