Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-08 Thread John M. Dlugosz
 On 2/7/2011 10:43 AM, David Nelson commerce-at-traduction.biz |LibreOffice Documentation 
Mailing List/Allow to home| wrote:

Hi, :-)

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 21:54, John M. Dlugoszd6474gh...@snkmail.com  wrote:

So that wasn't it, or something else is up.

I don't know, but I send you a load of documentation and it's been
bouncing, and now failed permanently:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 d6474gh...@snkmail.com

Technical details of permanent failure:
Unspecified Error (SENT_MESSAGE): Connection reset by peer

Any connection?

David Nelson


I forwarded that to the support form of sneakemail.
He raised the time-out to 5 minutes; said you might have a slow connection.  If there are 
more problems, check with Kevin at webmast...@sneakemail.com.


--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***



Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-07 Thread John M. Dlugosz
 On 2/6/2011 11:28 PM, John M. Dlugosz d6474ghtgy-at-snkmail.com |LibreOffice 
Documentation Mailing List/Allow to home| wrote:


I did register with Nabble.


On the Nabble screen, I clicked other options and told it to subscribe me to the list.  
I replied to the email it sent to confirm.  I notice it mentioned the nomail option.  
Note that I'm already subscribed to the list with the same email address used to register 
Nabble, but in case it proxies things or uses different options, I did that.  Note that I 
did not get any warning from the list concerning already being subscribed, not did it 
change the options and stop sending mail on the original subscription.


But, I still cannot Reply using Nabble.
So that wasn't it, or something else is up.

--
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-06 Thread drew
On Sun, 2011-02-06 at 15:13 +0800, David Nelson wrote:
 Hi, :-)
 
 I'm CC'ing this to Drew Jensen, who originally set-up Nabble, and
 Christian Lohmaier. Hopefully, they will be able to provide further
 enlightenment...
 
 David Nelson
 
 On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 02:09, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:
  On 2/5/2011 2:00 AM, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
 
  I'm following these discussions and doing the documentation editing on my
  laptop, which is not my main computer where I have my email set up.  I
  can't Reply using Nabble, since it says I don't have permission (why?).  
  I
  can send out a top-level message to start a new thread by sending it to the
  list address, no problem.  But how can I keep the discussion thread when I
  don't have the original message in an email program to reply to?
 
  Are you subscribed to the list, at least with -nomail? For some reason, this
  setup works differently than the OOo/ezmlm lists; I've seen some indications
  that people need the -nomail subscriptions here.

PLEASE don't give advice without understanding.

 
  --

OK the big difference is that Nabble maintains a separate archive and
has it's own members database - so if you want to post via the Nabble
archive you must have an account in the TDF specific nabble database.
You must also be subscribed to the mailing list.

Here is the way it works in practice - the Nabble archive right now
'sees' 80+ Mailing lists for TDF, once a person registers with the
TDF/Nabble archive then from within the Nabble interface they can go to
a TDF/List and have Nabble handle the list registration - you can, from
within the Nabble interface opt to receive mails to your personal
in-box, but the default it to not do so. 

If you registered to a TDF mail list in a 'normal' way, meaning outside
of the Nabble interface, then you sill must register with the Nabble
database (tdf specific db) before it will post a message to the any list
for you - which is a good thing, so no anonymous posting.

Let's look at that again - I registered with a TDF mail list, from my
mail client, I go to Nabble and say post this to that list - it says I
don't know you, so you register with Nabble and then go to the list and
try to post - Nabble will say: You must be registered with the list and
you just say - go to hell and post it..it works, because once nabble
knows who you are it will do what you ask.

Now you are not registered to a ML from you mail client.
You go to Nabble, try to post, are prompted to register, you do so, now
you want to post to a list and Nabble again tells you that you must
_still_ register with the list (because Nabble does not own the lists)
and you say OK - nabble will generate an email to register your email
address (the one your registered with Nabble) to the mailing list with
the noreply flag, you will get a confirmation in your mail client in-box
and you must reply to that just as if you had registered yourself.

Now - one advantage here is that you never need to unregister. This is
really good for those cases where someone wants to ask 1 or 2 questions
and then doesn't want to see the list anymore. or, a likely scenario,
they ask 1 or 2 questions every year or so, this is a common scenario
and again this never needing to unregister (therefore not needing to
re-register) is handy.

That 1 or 2 question person by the way (and yes I already ran the
numbers for LIbO, just like I did at OO.o) makes up the overwhelming
majority of list users (and not just on the users list).

To wrap it up - for the OP here, just register with Nabble, for on-going
purposes, I wrote this long email as a first draft for a wiki
page...will put a link here when it is done.

Thanks

Drew


-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


[libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-05 Thread John M. Dlugosz
I'm following these discussions and doing the documentation editing on my 
laptop, which is not my main computer where I have my email set up.  I can't 
Reply using Nabble, since it says I don't have permission (why?).  I can send 
out a top-level message to start a new thread by sending it to the list 
address, no problem.  But how can I keep the discussion thread when I don't 
have the original message in an email program to reply to?

-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Use of Nabble and/or Mail to Thread Discussion ?

2011-02-05 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-)

I'm CC'ing this to Drew Jensen, who originally set-up Nabble, and
Christian Lohmaier. Hopefully, they will be able to provide further
enlightenment...

David Nelson

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 02:09, Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com wrote:
 On 2/5/2011 2:00 AM, John M. Dlugosz wrote:

 I'm following these discussions and doing the documentation editing on my
 laptop, which is not my main computer where I have my email set up.  I
 can't Reply using Nabble, since it says I don't have permission (why?).  I
 can send out a top-level message to start a new thread by sending it to the
 list address, no problem.  But how can I keep the discussion thread when I
 don't have the original message in an email program to reply to?

 Are you subscribed to the list, at least with -nomail? For some reason, this
 setup works differently than the OOo/ezmlm lists; I've seen some indications
 that people need the -nomail subscriptions here.

 --
 Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org
 List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/
 *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***


-- 
Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org
List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/
*** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***