Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Document - Forms
Hi Andrew, Le 23/09/2014 03:16, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak a écrit : On 09/20/2014 10:56 PM, Peter Goggin wrote: When i bring up my version of LibreBase the menus are somewhat different to those in the documentation. I was unable to find the forms options described. I downloaded my copy from the ubuntu repository. It says it is libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. There are a whole heap of optional extras which I did not download initially. 1. Is this the right version of the database software, i.e. the one the documentation is intended for? 2. Do I need all of the optional extras? I intend to work my way through the document , page by page to ensure that whatever it says can be done works as described. Regards Peter Goggin So, what was the final resolution on this? None for the moment. I think that we should stick with the TDF LibreOffice version because there is always integrations made by the distro packagers. Was it decided that: 1. There have been changes that until now no one has noticed. 2. The Linux distribution specific versions break things apart and you simply needed to install the rest of the bits and pieces. 3. The Ubuntu assembled distribution is just different 4. Something I missed? I haven't checked for all, but I think that the distributions assembled by packagers are all different because of the integration. Also depending on your desktop environment, you won't access the same shortcuts. May be we should add a small text explaining it. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Document - Forms
Hi :) Peter Goggin's email seems to have been broken shortly after posting his first message in this thread. I don't think we have any other way of contacting him. I think the established policy, at least for screen-shots, is to install the version of LIbreOffice from the official LibreOffice website. It makes sense to either have it in parallel alongside whichever version you use for normal work or to rename the User Profile just to make sure your version has been set to factory defaults and then apply the appropriate theme and icon-set. Mostly this is probably unnecessary - except in cases like this, where there appears to be a significant discrepancy to figure out. This is covered in the Preface that is common to all guides, see pages 5-6. Wrt the KDE issue i think it might be handy to have a section about the KDE keyboard-shortcuts issue under the section about using LibreOffice on Macs. That's on page 6 at the moment. I'm not sure if it'd be unhelpful to have a disclaimer mentioning that there might be similar issues on all DEs. Detractors might use that to point out that LO is not the same on every platform when really such issues are fairly trivial for most normal users. On the other hand all these guides seem to be refreshingly honest compared to most tech guides. At the moment the Preface neatly fits onto 8 pages, which is very convenient for printing. There is a lot of white-space on pages 2 and 3. Page 2 has a section called Contributors but on page 7 there are 2 sections that might fit well with that; Who wrote this book and Acknowledgements The space on page 3 looks like it might be able to fit the first 2 sections of page 4; Who is this book for and What's in this book However i don't really like the idea of moving stuff around because 1. it might then become inconsistent with other chapters and those other chapters might have varying amounts of white-space on the equivalent pages so changing those too might lead to some really bad layouts 2. the whole Preface looks very well laid out and it looks like considerable thought went into it all. Regards from Tom :) On 23 September 2014 08:29, Sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Le 23/09/2014 03:16, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak a écrit : On 09/20/2014 10:56 PM, Peter Goggin wrote: When i bring up my version of LibreBase the menus are somewhat different to those in the documentation. I was unable to find the forms options described. I downloaded my copy from the ubuntu repository. It says it is libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. There are a whole heap of optional extras which I did not download initially. 1. Is this the right version of the database software, i.e. the one the documentation is intended for? 2. Do I need all of the optional extras? I intend to work my way through the document , page by page to ensure that whatever it says can be done works as described. Regards Peter Goggin So, what was the final resolution on this? None for the moment. I think that we should stick with the TDF LibreOffice version because there is always integrations made by the distro packagers. Was it decided that: 1. There have been changes that until now no one has noticed. 2. The Linux distribution specific versions break things apart and you simply needed to install the rest of the bits and pieces. 3. The Ubuntu assembled distribution is just different 4. Something I missed? I haven't checked for all, but I think that the distributions assembled by packagers are all different because of the integration. Also depending on your desktop environment, you won't access the same shortcuts. May be we should add a small text explaining it. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Document - Forms
On 09/20/2014 10:56 PM, Peter Goggin wrote: When i bring up my version of LibreBase the menus are somewhat different to those in the documentation. I was unable to find the forms options described. I downloaded my copy from the ubuntu repository. It says it is libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. There are a whole heap of optional extras which I did not download initially. 1. Is this the right version of the database software, i.e. the one the documentation is intended for? 2. Do I need all of the optional extras? I intend to work my way through the document , page by page to ensure that whatever it says can be done works as described. Regards Peter Goggin So, what was the final resolution on this? Was it decided that: 1. There have been changes that until now no one has noticed. 2. The Linux distribution specific versions break things apart and you simply needed to install the rest of the bits and pieces. 3. The Ubuntu assembled distribution is just different 4. Something I missed? -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Document - Forms
Hi Peter, When i bring up my version of LibreBase the menus are somewhat different to those in the documentation. I was unable to find the forms options described. I downloaded my copy from the ubuntu repository. It says it is libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. There are a whole heap of optional extras which I did not download initially. Base hasn't been changed since the start of LO with LO 3.3. There aren't any extras installed for the forms. In the first versions all Toolbars for forms where shown automatically when starting to create a form. They had also been closed afterwords. I will have a look for the version where it had been changed. Could be many peole see the screenshots and thin there are some extras. Open a form for editing. Go to View → Toolbars → Form Controls View → Toolbars → Form Design Are these the optional extras you are missing? Regards Robert -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Document - Forms
When i bring up my version of LibreBase the menus are somewhat different to those in the documentation. I was unable to find the forms options described. I downloaded my copy from the ubuntu repository. It says it is libreoffice-base 1:4.2.6.3-0ubuntu1. There are a whole heap of optional extras which I did not download initially. 1. Is this the right version of the database software, i.e. the one the documentation is intended for? 2. Do I need all of the optional extras? I intend to work my way through the document , page by page to ensure that whatever it says can be done works as described. Regards Peter Goggin -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
