Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-24 Thread John Cleland

Hi Jean

Files uploaded to reviewed section.

What is the next priority.

Regards

John

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Hollis Weber

Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 10:18 PM
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
Guide


John,

Yesterday I moved all the Calc Guide chapters into Published, except for
Graphics (which is checked out), so you've got the right ones. Sorry
about the timing; wasn't thinking.

Yes, please upload the updated ODM, and the ODT and PDF files for the
book, into the Reviewed section. Thanks!

--Jean

On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 17:43 +0100, John Cleland wrote:

Hi Jean

The  review directory seems empty apart from the graphics in Calc chapter,
so I used the published chapters.  If this is correct.

I have followed the guide and updated the odm file and produced a PDF 
file.


Should I upload the files into the review section.

Thanks

John


-Original Message- 
From: Jean Weber

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc
Guide

You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English
 Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got
anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
settings.

--Jean

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk 
wrote:

 Hi

 I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the
 email.

 Regards

 John

 -Original message-
 From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
 To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
 Guide


 We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
 If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile

 The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
 English  Resources on Alfresco.

 The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation
 Calc Guide  Reviewed.

 Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
 What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
 together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
 to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
 gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
 be alone!

 --Jean





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 09:23 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
 Hi Jean
 
 Files uploaded to reviewed section.
 
 What is the next priority.
 
 Regards
 
 John

Thanks, John! However, I see only the PDF there, not the ODT. You did
make an ODT as well, didn't you?

Did you discover any problems with the cross-references after the book
was compiled? We have serious problems with incorrect x-refs in some
books but not in others.

Next priority is reviewing the Impress Guide. We need as many people
working on that as possible.

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 11:00 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
 Hi
 
 I uploaded 3 files odt odm and pdf but could not see any of them.  I assumed 
 it was a moderation feature.  Will try again tonight
 
 Regards 
 
 John

The PDF is there; at least, I can see it. I don't know why the others
aren't showing up. I don't know much about how Alfresco works.

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-24 Thread John Cleland

Hi Jean

Ok will try again tonight.

Will look at the manually remove the contents and copyright pages manually 
and look at how to add the fields back in the odm if they are missing.


Are there instructions on how to do this in the writer guide?

I looked at the links the previous time I compiled this and they seemed to 
work.  Will try again, if this does not work will edit the links manually in 
the odt file.


Regards


John

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Hollis Weber

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:09 AM
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
Guide


On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 11:00 +0100, John Cleland wrote:

Hi

I uploaded 3 files odt odm and pdf but could not see any of them.  I 
assumed it was a moderation feature.  Will try again tonight


Regards

John


The PDF is there; at least, I can see it. I don't know why the others
aren't showing up. I don't know much about how Alfresco works.

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-24 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 11:19 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
 Hi Jean
 
 Ok will try again tonight.
 
 Will look at the manually remove the contents and copyright pages manually 
 and look at how to add the fields back in the odm if they are missing.
 
 Are there instructions on how to do this in the writer guide?
 
 I looked at the links the previous time I compiled this and they seemed to 
 work.  Will try again, if this does not work will edit the links manually in 
 the odt file.
 
 Regards
 
 
 John
 

There are instructions in the Writer Guide about the field and the
hidden sections, but you also need to know the contents of the field and
the condition statement. This is written up somewhere, but offhand I
can't remember where. In the book template, perhaps. Anyway, I'll add it
here:

The copyright and TOC pages are in sections controlled by a condition
statement MD!=0 that picks up from the first paragraph in the ODM an
invisible field named MD which is set to 1. This causes the section to
be hidden. Sometimes it fails, for no reason I can see.

First thing to check: go into Tools  Options  LibreOffice Writer 
Formatting Aids and make sure Hidden text, Fields: Hidden text and
Fields: Hidden paragraphs are all UNticked. I can't recall if there
are any other options like that lurking somewhere.

BTW, I just opened the orginal ODM and updated all links, and the
copyright and TOC pages are hidden as they should be. 

The incorrect x-refs are scattered through the book; most x-refs are
correct, but some are not. It's a thorough pain to find and fix the
incorrect ones. I normally do this in the full-book ODT after unlinking
(embedding) all the chapter files, because I've found that fixing them
in the individual chapter files and then recompiling the book often
doesn't work -- some of the wretched x-refs go wrong again. I think a
bug may have been filed at OOo about this, but it's hard to reproduce
reliably, especially in a smallish sample file.

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-21 Thread John Cleland

Hi Jean

The  review directory seems empty apart from the graphics in Calc chapter, 
so I used the published chapters.  If this is correct.


I have followed the guide and updated the odm file and produced a PDF file.

Should I upload the files into the review section.

Thanks

John


-Original Message- 
From: Jean Weber

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
Guide


You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English

Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got

anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
settings.

--Jean

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote:

Hi

I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the 
email.


Regards

John

-Original message-
From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile

The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
English  Resources on Alfresco.

The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation

Calc Guide  Reviewed.


Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
be alone!

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-21 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
John,

Yesterday I moved all the Calc Guide chapters into Published, except for
Graphics (which is checked out), so you've got the right ones. Sorry
about the timing; wasn't thinking.

Yes, please upload the updated ODM, and the ODT and PDF files for the
book, into the Reviewed section. Thanks!

--Jean

On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 17:43 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
 Hi Jean
 
 The  review directory seems empty apart from the graphics in Calc chapter, 
 so I used the published chapters.  If this is correct.
 
 I have followed the guide and updated the odm file and produced a PDF file.
 
 Should I upload the files into the review section.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Jean Weber
 Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM
 To: documentation@libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
 Guide
 
 You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English
  Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got
 anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
 are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
 settings.
 
 --Jean
 
 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the 
  email.
 
  Regards
 
  John
 
  -Original message-
  From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
  To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
  Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
 
  We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
  If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile
 
  The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
  English  Resources on Alfresco.
 
  The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation
  Calc Guide  Reviewed.
 
  Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
  What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
  together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
  to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
  gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
  be alone!
 
  --Jean
 



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-12 Thread John Cleland
Hi

I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the email.

Regards

John

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-Original message-
From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile

The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
English  Resources on Alfresco.

The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation
 Calc Guide  Reviewed.

Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
be alone!

--Jean


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-12 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Thank you!! for taking this on.

--Jean

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 21:10 +1000, Jean Weber wrote:
 You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English
  Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got
 anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
 are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
 settings.
 
 --Jean
 
 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the 
  email.
 
  Regards
 
  John
 
  -Original message-
  From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
  To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
  Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
 
  We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
  If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile
 
  The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
  English  Resources on Alfresco.
 
  The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation
  Calc Guide  Reviewed.
 
  Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
  What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
  together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
  to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
  gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
  be alone!
 
  --Jean
 




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-12 Thread John Cleland

Hi Jean

Can I have a login for Alfresco.  I will download the guides.

Thanks

John

-Original Message- 
From: Jean Weber

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
Guide


You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English

Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got

anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
settings.

--Jean

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote:

Hi

I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the 
email.


Regards

John

-Original message-
From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile

The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
English  Resources on Alfresco.

The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation

Calc Guide  Reviewed.


Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
be alone!

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-12 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Done. A private message has been sent to you with your login details.

Sorry about the delay; I'm in Australia, so the time difference gets in
the way at times.

--Jean

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 14:28 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
 Hi Jean
 
 Can I have a login for Alfresco.  I will download the guides.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Jean Weber
 Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM
 To: documentation@libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
 Guide
 
 You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English
  Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got
 anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
 are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
 settings.
 
 --Jean
 
 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the 
  email.
 
  Regards
 
  John
 
  -Original message-
  From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
  To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
  Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
 
  We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
  If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile
 
  The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
  English  Resources on Alfresco.
 
  The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation
  Calc Guide  Reviewed.
 
  Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
  What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
  together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
  to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
  gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
  be alone!
 
  --Jean
 



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

2011-05-12 Thread Tom Davies
Ahh, so you have to write to us tomorrow for us to get it yesterday? ;)






From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
To: documentation@libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 13 May, 2011 0:59:27
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide

Done. A private message has been sent to you with your login details.

Sorry about the delay; I'm in Australia, so the time difference gets in
the way at times.

--Jean

On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 14:28 +0100, John Cleland wrote:
 Hi Jean
 
 Can I have a login for Alfresco.  I will download the guides.
 
 Thanks
 
 John
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Jean Weber
 Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:10 PM
 To: documentation@libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc 
 Guide
 
 You mean, other than in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in English
  Resources on Alfresco? No, I think that's it; I don't think I've got
 anything more detailed. BTW, some of the early parts of Producing...
 are important, especially the info about adjusting LibO memory
 settings.
 
 --Jean
 
 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 21:10, John Cleland j...@john-cleland.co.uk wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am willing to do this.  Are there any instructions other than in the 
  email.
 
  Regards
 
  John
 
  -Original message-
  From: Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
  To: LibreOffice Documentation documentation@libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 12 May 2011, 11:53:40 GMT+01:00
  Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Need volunteer to compile Calc Guide
 
  We need a volunteer to compile a full book from the Calc Guide chapters.
  If you wait for me to get to it, it might not appear for quite awhile
 
  The instructions are somewhere in Producing LibreOffice User Guides in
  English  Resources on Alfresco.
 
  The master document and all the chapters are in English  Documentation
  Calc Guide  Reviewed.
 
  Anyone willing to give this a try? I'm available to answer questions.
  What we've done quite successfully at OOo is for someone to put the book
  together and then make a PDF Release Candidate of that book for others
  to check for things like incorrect cross-references (a legacy of some
  gremlin in the OOo chapters from which these are derived). So you won't
  be alone!
 
  --Jean
 



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