[libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [de-users] Tabellennamen in Calc

2020-12-04 Thread Dennis Roczek

Hi everybody,

the following string is missleading - reported to de-users:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/scmessages/de/?checksum=e1e3e003dfa960a1=Ung%C3%BCltiger+Name+der+Tabelle._by=-priority%2Cposition


The special characters aren't allowed at any position of the name and 
only the apostroph is not allowed to the beginning / end of the sheet name.


Does anybody can come up with a better text?

Best regards,


Dennis



 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: [de-users] Tabellennamen in Calc
Datum:  Thu, 3 Dec 2020 22:10:10 + (UTC)
Von:Daniel Lenhardt 
An: LO DE-users 



Hallo!
Das ist ein Problem in der Fehlermeldung. Die Meldung dürfte nicht 
besagen, dass diese Zeichen nicht am Anfang oder Ende der Bezeichung 
vorkommen dürfen, sondern dass diese Zeichen in der Bezeichnung GAR 
NICHT vorkommen dürfen. Die Fehlermeldung müsste sich auch auf das 
Sternchen (*) beziehn.

GrußDaniel

Am Donnerstag, 3. Dezember 2020, 21:40:23 MEZ hat Robert Großkopf 
 Folgendes geschrieben: Hallo *,


ich lese aus einer PHP-Anwendung Tabellenblätter für Calc aus. Über ein
Makro passe ich anschließend die dort vorgesehenen Tabellennamen an.
Dabei bin ich darauf gestoßen, dass Tabellennamen wie "KL5e_19/20" nicht
gehen. In der Fehlermeldung heißt es, dass der Tabellenname nicht die
Zeichen []+?:/\ oder ' als erstes oder letztes Zeichen enthalten darf.
Beim / als drittletztem Zeichen tritt aber der Fehler auf. Bug im
Programm oder Bug in der Fehlermeldung?

Gruß

Robert

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Fwd: [de-users] Tabellennamen in Calc

2020-12-04 Thread Robert Großkopf
Hi *,

this is the bug-description I have written for the misleading warning:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138662

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7003, Styles and Templates

2020-12-04 Thread Felipe Viggiano
Hello Jean,

Just took a look at the GS7003 and it is very good for me. Really liked
the new info about the Template Manager Extension.

You will find another version of the file uploaded by me in the WIP folder,
but I just changed a reference that was returning an error, and nothing
else.

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano



Em ter., 1 de dez. de 2020 às 21:57, Felipe Viggiano <
felipeviggi...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hello Jean,
>
> Sorry, it took a long time to reply, this has been a busy week here.
>
> About the template extension, you are correct, I have it installed and
> forgot about it while reviewing the chapter. With that said, the extension
> works just fine with me (LO 7 and Ubuntu 20.04), and I think it would be a
> nice feature to add to the standard LibreOffice.
>
> About the Chapter, I'm going to take a look ASAP and expect to give
> feedback to you by Friday.
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>
> Em ter., 1 de dez. de 2020 às 02:20, Jean Weber 
> escreveu:
>
>> Felipe,
>> I have made further revisions to this chapter after considering your
>> comments and suggestions. They are marked as tracked changes. You may
>> wish to see what you think.
>> I also replaced several of the illustrations, which I had failed to do
>> previously.
>> Jean
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS7003, Styles and Templates

2020-12-04 Thread Jean Weber
Thank you! I have now accepted all changes and published the chapter.
Jean

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 10:47 AM Felipe Viggiano
 wrote:
>
> Hello Jean,
>
> Just took a look at the GS7003 and it is very good for me. Really liked
> the new info about the Template Manager Extension.
>
> You will find another version of the file uploaded by me in the WIP folder,
> but I just changed a reference that was returning an error, and nothing
> else.
>
> Best regards,
> Felipe Viggiano
>
>
>
> Em ter., 1 de dez. de 2020 às 21:57, Felipe Viggiano <
> felipeviggi...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> > Hello Jean,
> >
> > Sorry, it took a long time to reply, this has been a busy week here.
> >
> > About the template extension, you are correct, I have it installed and
> > forgot about it while reviewing the chapter. With that said, the extension
> > works just fine with me (LO 7 and Ubuntu 20.04), and I think it would be a
> > nice feature to add to the standard LibreOffice.
> >
> > About the Chapter, I'm going to take a look ASAP and expect to give
> > feedback to you by Friday.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Felipe Viggiano
> >
> > Em ter., 1 de dez. de 2020 às 02:20, Jean Weber 
> > escreveu:
> >
> >> Felipe,
> >> I have made further revisions to this chapter after considering your
> >> comments and suggestions. They are marked as tracked changes. You may
> >> wish to see what you think.
> >> I also replaced several of the illustrations, which I had failed to do
> >> previously.
> >> Jean
> >>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Leo Moons are you reviewing GS7002 Setting up LO?

2020-12-04 Thread Jean Weber
Leo,
I see your initials in the Rev2 column for GS7002 Setting up LO. Are
you working on this file? If not, I will revise it following the first
review and replace the file for 2nd review. If you are working on it,
can you give an idea of when you might be able to return it? Thanks.
Jean

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] iPad/Tablet version of LibreOffice

2020-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
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On 04/12/2020 09:05, Paul Sutton wrote:
> 
> 
> On 04/12/2020 08:39, Peter Schofield wrote:
>> Is there any chance of an iPad/tablet version of LibreOffice
>> being developed into a decent app. It would be useful to have one
>> and it it would expand LibreOffice’s appeal to users.
>> 
>> I know there are several apps available for using with open
>> document format, but all of them are terrible to use. I have
>> tested them. There is also Collabora Office, but that does nor
>> work well at all. It is even worse the version of LO on
>> NextCloud.
>> 
>> Anybody with thoughts on this.
>> 
>> Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> I know there is LibreOffice online, not sure what that is like,
> rather than re-inventing the wheel, it seems we need to improve
> what is on offer,  as you said if the current offering is
> 'terrible', then creating a better option from scratch won't stop
> people having a look at the other versions, getting the wrong
> impression generally about everything else.
> 
> Are we trying to build a like for like alternative or a privacy /
> user choice / open standards respecting alternative to google / ms
> office. The latter in some ways needs to be our selling point.
> 
> It seems there are too many apps, perhaps it would help if they
> pooled together and worked on one single app that is of really good
> quality.
> 
> Is anyone planning a talk at LibrePlanet in 2021,  it may be a way
> to raise awareness the project needs help,   I think there is still
> a call for proposals,  or perhaps there is a libreofficeconf online
> that we can help to promote.
> 
> Paul

What does this have to do with documenting LibreOffice?

General discussions are best done on: us...@global.libreoffice.org
Promotion is best discussed on: market...@global.libreoffice.org
Request enhancements: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport

Dave
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[libreoffice-documentation] iPad/Tablet version of LibreOffice

2020-12-04 Thread Peter Schofield
Is there any chance of an iPad/tablet version of LibreOffice being developed 
into a decent app. It would be useful to have one and it it would expand 
LibreOffice’s appeal to users.

I know there are several apps available for using with open document format, 
but all of them are terrible to use. I have tested them. There is also 
Collabora Office, but that does nor work well at all. It is even worse the 
version of LO on NextCloud.

Anybody with thoughts on this.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com




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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts

2020-12-04 Thread kees538

I have given GS7015-KeyboardShortcuts a first review.

Kees

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki articles JoinDocTeam & Cloud

2020-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
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On 03/12/2020 12:51, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> I think it would be a good idea to somehow synchronise these two articles:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud
> 
> I'm not sure, if there needs to be this separate Cloud article. Why not
> replace the last section of JoinDocTeam with its contents? Translations
> could be copied over.
> 
> Ilmari

If I remember correctly, the
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud page was
originally created to provide an interim source of information during
the change from ODF Authors to NextCloud.

This is now covered in Chapter 1 of the Documentation Contributors'
Guide, the revision of which is currently under review. The equivalent
wiki pages will be updated when the cloud chapters have been fully revised.

When the Documentation Contributors' Guide is published, I propose that
this "temporary" wiki page be deleted, or at the very least flagged as
having been replaced by a section in Chapter 1 of the guide.

Dave


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki articles JoinDocTeam & Cloud

2020-12-04 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

On 4.12.2020 13.17, Dave Barton wrote:

On 03/12/2020 12:51, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:

I think it would be a good idea to somehow synchronise these two articles:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam



https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud



I'm not sure, if there needs to be this separate Cloud article. Why not
replace the last section of JoinDocTeam with its contents? Translations
could be copied over.


If I remember correctly, the
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud page was
originally created to provide an interim source of information during
the change from ODF Authors to NextCloud.

This is now covered in Chapter 1 of the Documentation Contributors'
Guide, the revision of which is currently under review. The equivalent
wiki pages will be updated when the cloud chapters have been fully revised.

When the Documentation Contributors' Guide is published, I propose that
this "temporary" wiki page be deleted, or at the very least flagged as
having been replaced by a section in Chapter 1 of the guide.


Thanks. An example of different advice:

JoinDocTeam page has: "After your login is confirmed, contact the 
Documentation leader through the mailing list to obtain access to the 
LibreOffice Documentation folder on TDF NextCloud."


Cloud page has: "Contact documentation at libreoffice dot org to inform 
your username and to proceed with getting access to the LibreOffice 
Documentation folders in Nextcloud."


Ilmari

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Wiki articles JoinDocTeam & Cloud

2020-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
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On 04/12/2020 11:44, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> On 4.12.2020 13.17, Dave Barton wrote:
>> On 03/12/2020 12:51, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
>>> I think it would be a good idea to somehow synchronise these two
>>> articles:
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/JoinDocTeam
>>>
>>
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud
>>
>>> I'm not sure, if there needs to be this separate Cloud article. Why not
>>> replace the last section of JoinDocTeam with its contents? Translations
>>> could be copied over.
>>
>> If I remember correctly, the
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Cloud page was
>> originally created to provide an interim source of information during
>> the change from ODF Authors to NextCloud.
>>
>> This is now covered in Chapter 1 of the Documentation Contributors'
>> Guide, the revision of which is currently under review. The equivalent
>> wiki pages will be updated when the cloud chapters have been fully
>> revised.
>>
>> When the Documentation Contributors' Guide is published, I propose that
>> this "temporary" wiki page be deleted, or at the very least flagged as
>> having been replaced by a section in Chapter 1 of the guide.
> 
> Thanks. An example of different advice:
> 
> JoinDocTeam page has: "After your login is confirmed, contact the
> Documentation leader through the mailing list to obtain access to the
> LibreOffice Documentation folder on TDF NextCloud."
> 
> Cloud page has: "Contact documentation at libreoffice dot org to inform
> your username and to proceed with getting access to the LibreOffice
> Documentation folders in Nextcloud."
> 
> Ilmari

Agreed. There are other examples of conflicting and/or inaccurate
information, which is why I want to see the Documentation Contributors'
Guide finished and the equivalent
 wiki pages will be updated asap.

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] iPad/Tablet version of LibreOffice

2020-12-04 Thread Paul Sutton



On 04/12/2020 08:39, Peter Schofield wrote:

Is there any chance of an iPad/tablet version of LibreOffice being developed 
into a decent app. It would be useful to have one and it it would expand 
LibreOffice’s appeal to users.

I know there are several apps available for using with open document format, 
but all of them are terrible to use. I have tested them. There is also 
Collabora Office, but that does nor work well at all. It is even worse the 
version of LO on NextCloud.

Anybody with thoughts on this.

Regards
Peter Schofield
psaut...@gmail.com




I know there is LibreOffice online, not sure what that is like,  rather 
than re-inventing the wheel, it seems we need to improve what is on 
offer,  as you said if the current offering is 'terrible', then creating 
a better option from scratch won't stop people having a look at the 
other versions, getting the wrong impression generally about everything 
else.


Are we trying to build a like for like alternative or a privacy / user 
choice / open standards respecting alternative to google / ms office. 
The latter in some ways needs to be our selling point.


It seems there are too many apps, perhaps it would help if they pooled 
together and worked on one single app that is of really good quality.


Is anyone planning a talk at LibrePlanet in 2021,  it may be a way to 
raise awareness the project needs help,   I think there is still a call 
for proposals,  or perhaps there is a libreofficeconf online that we can 
help to promote.


Paul




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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Functions wiki - ADDRESS function

2020-12-04 Thread Steve Fanning

Hi Ronnie,

I hope you that you are well.

I've been looking at the first function of the Spreadsheet category and 
concluded that the wiki page for ADDRESS needs a significant amount of 
work (see my comments on the Discussion tab). The corresponding help 
page probably needs work too but let's sort out the wiki page first, and 
then use that to improve the help page.


If and when you have time, maybe you could have a look at my comments 
and let me know what you think.


I will carry on reviewing the other Spreadsheet functions.

Regards,

Steve


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[libreoffice-documentation] Docs Team Meeting Dates?

2020-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
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Hi Folks,

Even though I got side tracked by the trivialities of "real life" :)))
and missed yesterday's meeting, I am still maintaining a meeting date
calendar for meetings 6 meetings (12 weeks) ahead.

I have arbitrarily nominated December 17th. as the last meeting date
for 2020 and January 7th. as the first meeting date for 2021.

Does anyone else have more suitable proposals for these two dates?

Regards
Dave


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[libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice DevRoom Call for Papers

2020-12-04 Thread Italo Vignoli
FOSDEM 2021 will be a virtual event, taking place online on Saturday,
February 6, and Sunday, February 7. The LibreOffice DevRoom is scheduled
for Sunday, February 7, from 9AM to 7PM (times to be confirmed).

NEW RULES FOR 2021

- The reference time will be Brussels local time (CET).
- Talks will be pre-recorded in advance, and streamed during the event
- Q/A session will be live
- A facility will be provided for people watching to chat between themselves
- A facility will be provided for people watching to submit questions

IMPORTANT DATES TO REMEMBER

December 27: Submission deadline
December 31: Announcement of selected talks
January 4: Publication of DevRoom schedule
January 15: Presentations upload deadline

CALL FOR PAPERS

We are inviting proposals for talks about LibreOffice or the ODF
standard document format, on topics such as code, localization, QA, UX,
tools, extensions, migrations and general advocacy. Please keep in mind
that product pitches are not allowed at FOSDEM.

The length of talks is limited to a maximum of 25 minutes, as we would
like to have some minutes for questions after each presentation, and to
fit as many presenters as possible in the schedule. Exceptions must be
explicitly requested and justified. You may be assigned LESS time than
you request.

IMPORTANT INFORMATIONS

- Presentations have to be pre-recorded and tested for streaming before
the event.
- Once your talk is accepted, someone will help you to produce the
pre-recorded content.
- Contents will be reviewed to ensure they have the required quality,
and uploaded before January 15, to be prepared and ready for broadcast.
- During the stream of talks, speakers must be available online for the
Q/A session.

TALK SUBMISSIONS

All talk submissions have to be made in the Pentabarf event planning
tool: https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM21.

While filing the proposal, please provide the title of your talk, a
short abstract (one or two paragraphs), some information about yourself
(name, bio and photo, but please do remember that your profile might be
already stored in Pentabarf).

To submit your talk, click on “Create Event” and select the
“LibreOffice” DevRoom as the “Track”. Otherwise, your talk will not be
even considered for any devroom at all.

If you already have a Pentabarf account from a previous year, even if
your talk was not accepted, please reuse it. Create an account if, and
only if, you don’t have one from a previous year. If you have any issues
with Pentabarf, please contact it...@libreoffice.org for help.

CONTACTS

Italo Vignoli: it...@libreoffice.org
Mike Saunders: mike.saund...@documentfoundation.org

Blog Post:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/12/04/fosdem-2021-lo-devroom-cfp/

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Docs Team Meeting Dates?

2020-12-04 Thread Dave Barton
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> Hi Folks,
> 
> Even though I got side tracked by the trivialities of "real life"
> :))) and missed yesterday's meeting, I am still maintaining a
> meeting date calendar for meetings 6 meetings (12 weeks) ahead.
> 
> I have arbitrarily nominated December 17th. as the last meeting
> date for 2020 and January 7th. as the first meeting date for 2021.
> 
> Does anyone else have more suitable proposals for these two dates?
> 
> Regards Dave

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link:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Meetings#2020.2F2021_Online_meetings
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