Re: [Dorset] How to configure "Reply-To" correctly for list?

2016-10-31 Thread Tim

On 31/10/16 09:57, Terry Coles wrote:

On Sunday, 30 October 2016 17:58:09 GMT Ralph Corderoy wrote:

That sounds like you're clicking the wrong "reply" button in your mail
user agent.  Outside of the list, if Patrick emails you, CC me, don't
you have to be careful when you reply to choose between it going just to
Patrick or me too?  A choice is also to be made when replying and one of
the addresses is the list.  Your MUA might note the List-* headers and
offer list-specific options, but in general it's the same issue: to whom
do I want to reply.

Reading the thread that you pointed at below, I recall that I customised my
toolbar to include the Actions 'Reply To All', 'Reply To Author' and 'Reply To
Mailing List'.  Unfortunately, the last time I upgraded those customisation's
seem to have been cleared, so all I had left was the default 'Reply'

I've fixed it (again) now.


If the sender simply puts the mailman address in the To Address field
and nothing anywhere else, then the list works fine.

The list works fine?  You mean you get a single copy from the list.  Or

Yes.


something specific to replying to the email you receive from the list?

No.


Is it still Thunderbox you're using?

No.  Kontact (KMail).  Always has been since around 2002.


Ralph,  I have a vague recollection that this was changed some years
ago to prevent another problem, but I can't remember what it was.

Start reading at
https://www.mail-archive.com/dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk/msg05999.html and
work your way down the thread in the footer.  :-)

Yes.  I remember now.  My issue then, as now, is that I never had to do
anything but hit 'Reply' for years and the message would be sent to the List.
Then something started sowing confusion (for me at least).  I don't know what
changed; KMail, or the list, but it still catches me out regularly,
particulary because the KDE developers keep breaking backwards compatibility
and settings that have worked for years suddenly disappear ;-(

I keep threatening to abandon KDE, but the trouble is that I like more than I
hate ;-)

I use Thunderbird and that has a reply to list option. If I just click 
reply (like I just did with this reply then I realised what I had done) 
it will just go to the poster, in this case Terry



Tim


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Re: [Dorset] on-line test. please ignore

2016-10-31 Thread Ralph Corderoy
> > Subject: Re: [Dorset] on-line test. please ignore
>
> I can see it on the list

"please ignore".  :-)  If it appears in archives, after a small delay,
then it made it into Mailman and back out again, especially as the
second one is external and just another list subscriber.

https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/private/dorset/2016-October/015904.html
https://www.mail-archive.com/dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk/msg07116.html

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] How to configure "Reply-To" correctly for list?

2016-10-31 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry,

> My issue then, as now, is that I never had to do anything but hit
> 'Reply' for years and the message would be sent to the List.  

Yes, because Mailman added a Reply-To set to the list's address.  But
this meant the typical default action of "reply" in an MUA, to just go
to the originator, instead went to the list and thus "everybody".  It
seems safer to err on the side of not being a public post if someone
replies without checking, and that matches Mailman's recommendation.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] How to configure "Reply-To" correctly for list?

2016-10-31 Thread Terry Coles
On Sunday, 30 October 2016 17:58:09 GMT Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> That sounds like you're clicking the wrong "reply" button in your mail
> user agent.  Outside of the list, if Patrick emails you, CC me, don't
> you have to be careful when you reply to choose between it going just to
> Patrick or me too?  A choice is also to be made when replying and one of
> the addresses is the list.  Your MUA might note the List-* headers and
> offer list-specific options, but in general it's the same issue: to whom
> do I want to reply.

Reading the thread that you pointed at below, I recall that I customised my 
toolbar to include the Actions 'Reply To All', 'Reply To Author' and 'Reply To 
Mailing List'.  Unfortunately, the last time I upgraded those customisation's 
seem to have been cleared, so all I had left was the default 'Reply' 

I've fixed it (again) now.

> > If the sender simply puts the mailman address in the To Address field
> > and nothing anywhere else, then the list works fine.
> 
> The list works fine?  You mean you get a single copy from the list.  Or

Yes.

> something specific to replying to the email you receive from the list?

No.

> Is it still Thunderbox you're using?

No.  Kontact (KMail).  Always has been since around 2002.

> > Ralph,  I have a vague recollection that this was changed some years
> > ago to prevent another problem, but I can't remember what it was.
> 
> Start reading at
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk/msg05999.html and
> work your way down the thread in the footer.  :-)

Yes.  I remember now.  My issue then, as now, is that I never had to do 
anything but hit 'Reply' for years and the message would be sent to the List.  
Then something started sowing confusion (for me at least).  I don't know what 
changed; KMail, or the list, but it still catches me out regularly, 
particulary because the KDE developers keep breaking backwards compatibility 
and settings that have worked for years suddenly disappear ;-(

I keep threatening to abandon KDE, but the trouble is that I like more than I 
hate ;-)

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