Re: [Dorset] Off-Topic - Dashcams

2018-09-14 Thread Paul Tansom
Likewise, although I have the 412GW. I think the only real differences
are the slightly larger screen, higher resolution or faster frame rate
when recording, wifi/smartphone app (which I've never used) and touch
'buttons' rather than physical buttons on the 312GW (I sometimes think
the physical buttons would be better as I keep switching it on when I
take it off!).

I went for the 412GW largely because it was on special offer and worked
out slightly cheaper than the 312GW (same price at £99, but included the
polarizing lens to reduce glare). I've been quite happy with it, bar the
Windows only software. I suspect you can get at the footage from Linux
since it just shows up as external storage, but I think you'll need the
Nextbase software to get at the meta data. I've not tried that with Wine
yet.

I'll second the use of a decent size micro sd card, although I think the
current ones can take a 128GB card. I've been impressed with the picture
quality on it, even in low light, but to be honest, now I've got it
setup (with the hardwire kit to save my accessory socket for my satnav
and bluetooth/fm thing) it tends to get sat in place and ignored. I
can't remember the last time I connected it to my computer - although
they do recommend reformatting the card once a month iirc.

** Tim  [2018-09-14 18:01]:
> 
> I have the 312 and it functions nicely, not tried using it on Linux yet.
> Bear in mind that you will need to purchase a micro sd card, I would
> recommend getting at 32gb (class 10) maximum size so you will need to cost
> that in.
> 
> Tim H
> 
> 
> On 14/09/18 12:14, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
> > On 14/09/18 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:
> > > On Friday, 14 September 2018 11:23:49 BST PeterMerchant via dorset
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi, Does anyone have any experience with Dashcams- good or bad
> > > > with your
> > > > insurance company?
> > > Not as yet, but I've just bought one.
> > > 
> > > It occurs to me that they are a two edged sword; if you are a fault,
> > > there's
> > > nowhere to hide :-)
> > > 
> > We have Amazon Prime on a trial ending soon, and the Nextbase 312 is £89
> > there, But going through Quidco to Curry's I'll get 15% off £99 and free
> > delivery. Also it will be easier to argue if there is a fault.
> > 
> > I can't see much point in the Nextbase 412, and my son-in-law has the
> > 312.
> > 
> > I would have liked to have it running when a yobbo on a scooter cut
> > around me  weaving through the Canford Bottom roundabout the other day.
> > He lived to die another day, but it was a close call. However at his
> > age, he's invulnerable.
> > 
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Dorset] Visual basic on Linux

2018-09-14 Thread Paul Tansom
** t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk  [2018-09-14 12:39]:
 
> > Python's cross-platform, even the GUI too with TkInter.  It's common on
> > the Raspberry Pi.  The BBC micro:bit uses the MicroPython derivative.
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro:bit  It's no contest out of those.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> > https://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/computer-science-and-it/gcse/computer-science-8520/teaching-resources
> > is interesting.  PDFs for lots of topics to cover, e.g. Huffman code.
> > And Python syntax code cards for Coding Club.  Nothing for VB.Net, Java, ...
> > So perhaps it's the school's choice to plump for VB.Net rather than the
> > examination board's syllabus?  I hope it's not the school's governors
> > identifying that's what industry requires;  as John said, VB.Net is
> > decaying fast and legacy/maintenance now.
> 
> I would think it's down to the teacher. Can't imagine school govenors having
> the remotest idea about appropriate programming languages.
** end quote [t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk]

In general possibly not, but I know of two schools where this wouldn't
be the case - and not just because I'm a governor at both of them :-)
That said, the school governors, knowledgable or not, would have no say
at this level of the school. We have quite a high level overview of
things, although we do get in to watch classes. Personally I get quite
involved as I run a code club at the primary school, and have worked
with another governor at open evenings at the secondary (with Raspberry
Pis and an Oculus Rift) - I've not yet got involved with the after
school club at the secondary... yet!

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Re: [Dorset] Off-Topic - Dashcams

2018-09-14 Thread Tim


I have the 312 and it functions nicely, not tried using it on Linux yet. 
Bear in mind that you will need to purchase a micro sd card, I would 
recommend getting at 32gb (class 10) maximum size so you will need to 
cost that in.


Tim H


On 14/09/18 12:14, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:

On 14/09/18 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:
On Friday, 14 September 2018 11:23:49 BST PeterMerchant via dorset 
wrote:
Hi, Does anyone have any experience with Dashcams- good or bad with 
your

insurance company?

Not as yet, but I've just bought one.

It occurs to me that they are a two edged sword; if you are a fault, 
there's

nowhere to hide :-)

We have Amazon Prime on a trial ending soon, and the Nextbase 312 is 
£89 there, But going through Quidco to Curry's I'll get 15% off £99 
and free delivery. Also it will be easier to argue if there is a fault.


I can't see much point in the Nextbase 412, and my son-in-law has the 
312.


I would have liked to have it running when a yobbo on a scooter cut 
around me  weaving through the Canford Bottom roundabout the other 
day. He lived to die another day, but it was a close call. However at 
his age, he's invulnerable.



Peter


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Re: [Dorset] New Venue for Next Meeting Chosen.

2018-09-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday, 14 September 2018 17:49:05 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > May I ask if they also sell spirits (eg vodka) in their bar?
> 
> Good question.  I got the impression of larger bottles in the background
> when I popped in.  Perhaps Terry will recall more as he stayed and had a
> pint.

They have a fair few optics, but what was in them I have no idea.

> A skim through past events and posts has all of them be Friday or the
> weekend, except particular England World Cup matches, or a solitary
> charity quiz night on a Wednesday.  Hopefully, Tuesday is so quiet they
> won't try and drum up extra customers, but we should keep an eye on
> future announcements.

The bar lady (Sue) said Tuesday's are generally pretty quiet.

> Terry's visit coincided with a football match;  they've a pitch out the
> back.  He said there were plenty of cars, but still spaces in the car
> park, and after the match some of the footballers came in and stayed at
> the bar, but it remained quiet.  (The lack of background music to
> compete with probably helps.)  There was also a skittles team in that
> night, but in `another area', Terry said, presumably one of the other
> two rooms.

I never found the skittles alley and I never heard it so it must be a fair way 
away.  Sue said the 'she would open up' something or another when a couple of 
skittlers turned up.


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Re: [Dorset] New Venue for Next Meeting Chosen.

2018-09-14 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Natalie,

> And the fact it's next to it is a bonus - no need to work out how to
> get there ;-)

Yes.  That I've spent ages looking on and off and it's right next door
is amusing.

> May I ask if they also sell spirits (eg vodka) in their bar?

Good question.  I got the impression of larger bottles in the background
when I popped in.  Perhaps Terry will recall more as he stayed and had a
pint.

I've now found these photos.  Was looking for one of the bar.  Looks
hopeful.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204005678529301&set=o.208930622959&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/208930622959/photos/a.10152432812727960/10155643079007960/?type=3
https://www.facebook.com/208930622959/photos/a.208965862959/10153283112682960/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/208930622959/photos/a.208965862959/10154142870817960/?type=3&theater

> Also, I see on their Fb page (
> https://www.facebook.com/Bournemouth-Electric-Sports-Social-Club-Ltd-208930622959/)
> that they regularly host events, such as wrestling and tribute bands.
> Are we sure those events are never on a Tuesday?

A skim through past events and posts has all of them be Friday or the
weekend, except particular England World Cup matches, or a solitary
charity quiz night on a Wednesday.  Hopefully, Tuesday is so quiet they
won't try and drum up extra customers, but we should keep an eye on
future announcements.

Terry's visit coincided with a football match;  they've a pitch out the
back.  He said there were plenty of cars, but still spaces in the car
park, and after the match some of the footballers came in and stayed at
the bar, but it remained quiet.  (The lack of background music to
compete with probably helps.)  There was also a skittles team in that
night, but in `another area', Terry said, presumably one of the other
two rooms.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] New Venue for Next Meeting Chosen.

2018-09-14 Thread Natalie Masse Hooper
A change of venue sounds good as I know some have been frustrated with the
loudness at the Broadway. And the fact it's next to it is a bonus - no need
to work out how to get there ;-)

May I ask if they also sell spirits (eg vodka) in their bar? I know some
clubs like those don't (my in laws used to go to a similar club and the
choice of beverages was very restricted). Also, I see on their Fb page (
https://www.facebook.com/Bournemouth-Electric-Sports-Social-Club-Ltd-208930622959/
) that they regularly host events, such as wrestling and tribute bands. Are
we sure those events are never on a Tuesday?

£1 contribution to cover costs seems fair.




On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:09 PM Ralph Corderoy 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The next meeting with be at a new venue to try it out.  To help fund it,
> we're asking for a contribution of £1 from each of those attending a
> meeting.
>
> The Bournemouth Electric (Sports and Social Club) ‘...was founded in
> 1935 as a social club for employees of the Electricity Board’.
> http://dorset.lug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings:pub#bournemouth_electric
> It's dead opposite the car-park entrance to The Broadway that we've been
> using for a long time, so if you're used to making the trip then this
> will be no worse.
>
> I found it after many searches for suitable alternative venues, being
> fed up with the Broadway's level of noise from background music and the
> occasionally rowdy crowd.  (Hardly heard the gunshots outside.)  A brief
> approach suggested they'd be happy to let a bunch of us in if some were
> members so Terry (was) volunteered to go along this Tuesday and find out
> more detail about the venue and how it would work.
>
> The wiki above uses a Google map, but here's a detailed Geowessex one.
>
> https://explorer.geowessex.com/?basemap=26&x=410173.75&y=95043.78&epsg=27700&zoom=19
>
> Terry's Tuesday visit showed there's Wi-Fi, and beer and lager are £3 a
> pint, or just under.  (A member gets 10% off his drink, but not those
> he's buying for non-members.)  You enter up a couple of steps into a
> corridor that leads into one large room with the bar.  There are TV
> screen(s), but no sound, and no background music.
>
> There's also two very large function rooms that normally have to be
> booked and paid for.  We've heard so far that we might be shoved off
> into one of those anyway if it's available, there's a few of us, and the
> main bar is a bit crowded, etc.  (That would be ideal.)  They don't
> realise yet that we'll be making the bar look untidy with laptops on
> tables.
>
> The catch is needing to have some BEC members to get the non-members in.
> Terry signed up as an OAP member on Tuesday for £10/year.  Spring
> chickens pay £20.  And both prices are rising from the 15th to £15 and
> £25.  A ratio of 1:6 or more seems a bit of a cheek so we're planning to
> sign up another member on the night of the LUG meeting;  someone that
> attends regularly.  (Unless one of you lot is already a member or likes
> the sound of it.)  Terry found membership, especially the beer discount,
> starts later, once Accounts have processed the application.
>
> Funding this is the reason for introducing the £1/meeting contribution.
> If it raises £80 over the year then it would cover £60 BEC fees with
> room to spare.  If it starts raising too much then it can be suspended.
>
> If we start regularly getting a spare room to ourselves, being
> considerate guests that cause them no extra work at the end of the
> night, then we could consider short talks, etc.  Worst case, the
> scattered laptops can each be following along the `slides' in a PDF.
>
> Cheers, Ralph.
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Re: [Dorset] Visual basic on Linux

2018-09-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday, 14 September 2018 12:38:50 BST t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk wrote:
> I would think it's down to the teacher. Can't imagine school govenors
> having the remotest idea about appropriate programming languages.

I was a school governor...

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Re: [Dorset] Visual basic on Linux

2018-09-14 Thread PeterMerchant via dorset




https://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/computer-science-and-it/gcse/computer-science-8520/teaching-resources 


is interesting.  PDFs for lots of topics to cover, e.g. Huffman code.
And Python syntax code cards for Coding Club.  Nothing for VB.Net, 
Java, ...

So perhaps it's the school's choice to plump for VB.Net rather than the
examination board's syllabus?  I hope it's not the school's governors
identifying that's what industry requires;  as John said, VB.Net is
decaying fast and legacy/maintenance now.



I would think it's down to the teacher. Can't imagine school govenors 
having the remotest idea about appropriate programming languages.



Cheers

Tim

Following on from Ralph's note about the new venue and possibilities, 
How about having a session on computing in schools and inviting some 
people from local schools to come and participate?


I know of two from QE who might be interested, and I would definitely 
invite my ex-student who runs Schoolcare https://www.schoolcare.co.uk/   
as he was a linux advocate.


Peter M.


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Re: [Dorset] Visual basic on Linux

2018-09-14 Thread tda

Hi Ralph

On 13/09/18 17:05, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Tim,


For his school computing course, my son has been told he needs to
download Visual Studio 2017 onto a Windows PC, to write some
simple programs in vb.net. We don't have any Windows machines


It used to be Linux users were the odd ones out and everyone else had a
Windows PC at home.  Then that became a Windows laptop.  But these days
I'm seeing more homes without any PCs because tablets and phones are
preferred by the public and do everything they want.  So it's still
possible a pupil won't have Windows at home, but that's because they'll
have Android or iOS devices, or the Jones's will have an iMac Pro.  This
suggests to me the trend for being able to run VB.Net is in downwards.

Do they not have a Windows PC lab where you can check in at lunch time
or after school, like the wall of Commodore PETs and then BBC Masters in
my day?  Beats standing outside on a cold day, even if you get locked in
and have to climb out a window...

I asked that question, and the teacher mentioned that they have a 
RemoteApp feature where the pupils can log in to a school computer from 
home and run up VS remotely. Perfect, problem solved hopefully (yet to 
try it).




Of those, Python is the clear winner for education.  The first two are
too complex and would put off pupils, (and programmers!), Pascal died
with Borland, and VB.Net was just to coerce VB programmers into .Net
even though the languages are different in many ways.



Yes, some interesting language choices there. However, it probably 
doesn't really matter what they use. They're only going to get a flavour 
of what programming is about in this course, anyway, and they're all 
equally valid in terms of the fundamentals of a programming language.



Python's cross-platform, even the GUI too with TkInter.  It's common on
the Raspberry Pi.  The BBC micro:bit uses the MicroPython derivative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro:bit  It's no contest out of those.


I agree.



https://www.aqa.org.uk/subjects/computer-science-and-it/gcse/computer-science-8520/teaching-resources
is interesting.  PDFs for lots of topics to cover, e.g. Huffman code.
And Python syntax code cards for Coding Club.  Nothing for VB.Net, Java, ...
So perhaps it's the school's choice to plump for VB.Net rather than the
examination board's syllabus?  I hope it's not the school's governors
identifying that's what industry requires;  as John said, VB.Net is
decaying fast and legacy/maintenance now.



I would think it's down to the teacher. Can't imagine school govenors 
having the remotest idea about appropriate programming languages.



Cheers

Tim



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Re: [Dorset] Off-Topic - Dashcams

2018-09-14 Thread PeterMerchant via dorset

On 14/09/18 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:

On Friday, 14 September 2018 11:23:49 BST PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:

Hi, Does anyone have any experience with Dashcams- good or bad with your
insurance company?

Not as yet, but I've just bought one.

It occurs to me that they are a two edged sword; if you are a fault, there's
nowhere to hide :-)

We have Amazon Prime on a trial ending soon, and the Nextbase 312 is £89 
there, But going through Quidco to Curry's I'll get 15% off £99 and free 
delivery. Also it will be easier to argue if there is a fault.


I can't see much point in the Nextbase 412, and my son-in-law has the 312.

I would have liked to have it running when a yobbo on a scooter cut 
around me  weaving through the Canford Bottom roundabout the other day. 
He lived to die another day, but it was a close call. However at his 
age, he's invulnerable.



Peter


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Re: [Dorset] Off-Topic - Dashcams

2018-09-14 Thread Terry Coles
On Friday, 14 September 2018 11:23:49 BST PeterMerchant via dorset wrote:
> Hi, Does anyone have any experience with Dashcams- good or bad with your
> insurance company?

Not as yet, but I've just bought one.

It occurs to me that they are a two edged sword; if you are a fault, there's 
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[Dorset] Off-Topic - Dashcams

2018-09-14 Thread PeterMerchant via dorset
Hi, Does anyone have any experience with Dashcams- good or bad with your 
insurance company?



Regards,

Peter M.


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