Re: [Dorset] XDMCP connection problem
On 07/09/15 20:44, Peter Merchant wrote: On 07/09/15 19:52, Tim Allen wrote: Problem was eth0 was manually configured in /etc/network/interfaces, wlan0 was configured by network manager. Removing manual eth0 config (which previously worked in Wheezy) fixed the problem. Tim I have seen this before, where Eth0 has a priority over wireless connection, and you have to disable the wired connection for Wireless to connect. The caveat to this is that it was always on NT4 or XP boxes, never with linux. Peter Yes - just because something seems to be working fine with TCP or ICMP protocols doesn't mean it will work when UDP is thrown at it. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] XDMCP connection problem
Hi Bit more info below: On 07/09/15 10:32, TimA wrote: Hi I connect to local machines (called fleet and golux) using XDMCP (using Xephyr on a laptop) but am just getting a black screen since upgrading my laptop to Debian Jessie. Xephyr -query fleet :1 Xephyr -query golux :1 give black screen. I can connect to the laptop XDMCP server fine: Xephyr -query localhost :1 and ssh -X fleet xeyes works fine. Using Xnest instead of Xephyr make no difference. This was working fine a few weeks back prior to the laptop upgrade. No iptables rules. Logging into fleet or golux from other machines also running Jessie is also fine so the XDMCP server on fleet/golux is OK. Does anyone have any advice on debugging this. Something to do with wireless network connection: Plugging in wired network cable, ifup eth0 and all works. Thereafter disconnecting cable, ifdown eth0 and retrying XDMCP over wireless again also works. So some strange networking issue. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
[Dorset] XDMCP connection problem
Hi I connect to local machines (called fleet and golux) using XDMCP (using Xephyr on a laptop) but am just getting a black screen since upgrading my laptop to Debian Jessie. Xephyr -query fleet :1 Xephyr -query golux :1 give black screen. I can connect to the laptop XDMCP server fine: Xephyr -query localhost :1 and ssh -X fleet xeyes works fine. Using Xnest instead of Xephyr make no difference. This was working fine a few weeks back prior to the laptop upgrade. No iptables rules. Logging into fleet or golux from other machines also running Jessie is also fine so the XDMCP server on fleet/golux is OK. Does anyone have any advice on debugging this. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] 32-bit libs on amd64 Debian
Hi Ralph On 01/07/15 16:26, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Tim, BTW, there's also ldd(1) which shows how the file's needs are met. Yes, but not if the target is 32-bit on a 64-bit system :) Hmm, odd. Does here AFAICS. $ uname -m x86_64 $ file /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped $ $ ldd /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread | topntail -3 linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf771e000) libBIB.so => not found libBIBUtils.so => not found libexpat.so.1 => /lib32/libexpat.so.1 (0xf6652000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 (0xf664e000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib32/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xf6648000) $ file -L /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6 /usr/lib32/libXau.so.6: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped $ Yes, you're right. What didn't work was ldd /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc before installing the 32-bit libs that arm-none-eabi-gcc needed. So it wasn't helpful in showing the dependencies in this case. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] 32-bit libs on amd64 Debian
Hi Ralph On 01/07/15 14:54, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Tim, $ readelf -d /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc Dynamic section at offset 0xb20a4 contains 26 entries: TagType Name/Value 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libm.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [ld-linux.so.2] BTW, there's also ldd(1) which shows how the file's needs are met. $ ldd /bin/ls linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x7fff873ff000) libselinux.so.1 => /lib/libselinux.so.1 (0x7fbcd78be000) librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7fbcd76b6000) libacl.so.1 => /lib/libacl.so.1 (0x7fbcd74ad000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7fbcd7129000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7fbcd6f25000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7fbcd7af8000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fbcd6d07000) libattr.so.1 => /lib/libattr.so.1 (0x7fbcd6b02000) $ Yes, but not if the target is 32-bit on a 64-bit system :) Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] 32-bit libs on amd64 Debian
On 01/07/15 12:12, TimA wrote: Hi Trying to get arm embedded cross compiler from https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded running on a Debian 8 (Jessie) amd64 machine. Compiler is 32-bit: $ file /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped and needs these libs: $ readelf -d /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc Dynamic section at offset 0xb20a4 contains 26 entries: TagType Name/Value 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libm.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [ld-linux.so.2] So add i386 architecture dpkg --add-architechture i386 apt-get update apt-get install ia32-libs to discover that this package no longer present in Jessie. $ apt-get install libc-bin:i386 apt-get install libc-bin:i386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base:i386 libattr1:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libgcc1:i386 Suggested packages: glibc-doc:i386 locales:i386 The following packages will be REMOVED: libc-bin The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base:i386 libattr1:i386 libc-bin:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libgcc1:i386 WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! libc-bin 0 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,610 kB of archives. After this operation, 12.5 MB of additional disk space will be used. You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' Don't think I want to go there! So question is what's the correct way to install 32-bit libs multiarch on the latest Debian/Ubuntu? Fixed - should have been: apt-get install libc6 Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] 32-bit libs on amd64 Debian
Hi Andrew On 01/07/15 12:34, Andrew Montgomery-Hurrell wrote: Not an answer to your question, but I'm curious, is there a reason you need the 32bit version? Why not just use the 64-bit one they link from that very page? https://launchpad.net/~terry.guo/+archive/ubuntu/gcc-arm-embedded Yes, I saw that but it's a step removed from the base release and I need to get the 32-bit libs installed anyway for other compilers which are not available in 64-bit. Cheers Tim On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 at 12:15 TimA wrote: Hi Trying to get arm embedded cross compiler from https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded running on a Debian 8 (Jessie) amd64 machine. Compiler is 32-bit: $ file /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped and needs these libs: $ readelf -d /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc Dynamic section at offset 0xb20a4 contains 26 entries: TagType Name/Value 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libm.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [ld-linux.so.2] So add i386 architecture dpkg --add-architechture i386 apt-get update apt-get install ia32-libs to discover that this package no longer present in Jessie. $ apt-get install libc-bin:i386 apt-get install libc-bin:i386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base:i386 libattr1:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libgcc1:i386 Suggested packages: glibc-doc:i386 locales:i386 The following packages will be REMOVED: libc-bin The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base:i386 libattr1:i386 libc-bin:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libgcc1:i386 WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! libc-bin 0 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,610 kB of archives. After this operation, 12.5 MB of additional disk space will be used. You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' Don't think I want to go there! So question is what's the correct way to install 32-bit libs multiarch on the latest Debian/Ubuntu? Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
[Dorset] 32-bit libs on amd64 Debian
Hi Trying to get arm embedded cross compiler from https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded running on a Debian 8 (Jessie) amd64 machine. Compiler is 32-bit: $ file /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped and needs these libs: $ readelf -d /usr/local/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_9-2015q2/bin/arm-none-eabi-gcc Dynamic section at offset 0xb20a4 contains 26 entries: TagType Name/Value 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libm.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6] 0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [ld-linux.so.2] So add i386 architecture dpkg --add-architechture i386 apt-get update apt-get install ia32-libs to discover that this package no longer present in Jessie. $ apt-get install libc-bin:i386 apt-get install libc-bin:i386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base:i386 libattr1:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libgcc1:i386 Suggested packages: glibc-doc:i386 locales:i386 The following packages will be REMOVED: libc-bin The following NEW packages will be installed: gcc-4.9-base:i386 libattr1:i386 libc-bin:i386 libc6:i386 libc6-i686:i386 libcap2:i386 libgcc1:i386 WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! libc-bin 0 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 6,610 kB of archives. After this operation, 12.5 MB of additional disk space will be used. You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' Don't think I want to go there! So question is what's the correct way to install 32-bit libs multiarch on the latest Debian/Ubuntu? Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-07-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] DLUG Website - Media File Uploads
Hi Terry On 04/06/15 09:56, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, Can anyone get the Media Files upload tool to work? I think this is a long-standing problem: http://www.mail-archive.com/dorset%40mailman.lug.org.uk/msg02597.html Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-06-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Remote Desktop to a Raspberry Pi
Hi John On 20/04/15 13:14, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: Using the RDP server on Linux doesn't really gain you much over VNC (other than making it easier for Windows clients to connect). The best thing about RDP on Windows is that it hooks the graphics layer to send drawing primitives and instructions instead of just updating rectangles of pixels, which is very efficient. It has several levels of protocol though, and the lowest is pretty much VNC (remote framebuffer). The smarter versions of the protocol have never been implemented on Linux and so the RDP server just wraps VNC and tells the client to fall back to the lowest protocol level. That's very interesting. I'd noted that xrdp relied on VNC for the backend and that had pushed it back to "must try this one day" status. The only test I'd run in the past was RDP client to Windows XP, and your description explains the impressive speed. I agree that remote X11 is very useful but I've always found that it works best for simple (dare I say old fashioned?) X11 apps like xterm and worst for graphically complex things like browsers. It's just about usable over a good WAN connection for simple jobs but seems to be very sensitive to latency, and the effect is multiplied for complex applications. One tool that I've found to work very well is x2go. I'm not sure if it's available for the Pi but I've used it quite a lot on desktop machines. There's a Windows client which works well too. http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php It's not faultless. Not all features seem to work perfectly, but it's pretty good. I see that uses NX - will definitely be giving it a try. But it looks like nxagent needs a major rewrite to stay compatible with modern desktops. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-05-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
[Dorset] Multiple commands in bash
Hi I'd like to run multiple commands in Bash: patch -m but for audit purposes I'd like each command in the list to be echoed as run, even better I'd like the Bash prompt to appear too in front of each line. I know that as an alternative I can put the commands in a script with #!/bin/bash -v to get the first requirement. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2015-04-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Social Networking in a Corporate Environment
Hi Terry On 30/09/14 14:05, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: Hi, Our company has a presence in several European countries and our collective bosses would like to set up a Corporate Social Network based on Linux servers and Clients running on Windows hardware. The system would have to be private to the company using the Intranet or our other shared networking capabilities. Does anyone have any recommendations? I believe that the management are not really sure what they want in terms of functionality so are looking for suggestions. We have discussed this locally and have some varied opinions: 1. I like the blog environment, having been a big fan of Groklaw, but that implementation of Geeklog didn't allow attachments. 2. Some think that a Facebook style of presentation would be ideal, but I've never used it so cannot comment. Is there an opensource package that can implement Facebook functionality? 3. We think that twitter is too brief. 4. We think that IRC is too immediate; if your not there you've missed it. What else could be used? Maybe I've missed something but a mailing list seems to tick all the boxes above. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-10-07 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup
Hi Tim On 14/08/14 08:04, Ken Hutton wrote: You can clone the disk yourself if you have a new drive e.g.: dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc Or create an image on a larger disk e.g.: dd if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/newdisk/image dd does a low level copy so it should copy the partition table and any recoverable data. By only reading from the potentially damaged disk once you may avoid further data loss. Or ddrescue. Method of use is similar to dd but specifically designed to recover failing disks. Cheers Tim -- Ken Hutton On 13 Aug 2014 17:58, "Charles Miller" wrote: I had the same problem with a 1TB Lacie Big Disk Extreme and being unable to access it. I asked my local PC shop to see if they could access it, and if they could, to supply a new hard drive which I would pay for and copy all the data on to it before doing anything else. They were able to copy my data onto their own PC and 'fixed' the problem by re-loading some of the firmware - which did and stll does allow access, BUT instead of putting my data onto a new hard disk, they copied it back to the Lacie and deleted what was on their PC - to save me money! The problem is, the WRITE is was still faulty, so lots of my data - mostly irreplacable pictures taken from around the world in my extensive travels - is now shredded by wide bands of angled stripes. A hair-tearing situation!!! Supply a hard drive FIRST and ask them to access the Lacie and copy the data across and until you have checked the results, DO NOT LET THEM FIX THE LACIE but send it to Lacie once you have your data. Unfortunately, it will be a rare IT guy who actually listens to and understands what you have actually asked for! Lacie do not offer a fault-recovery processing facility. Writing to two independent drives but reading only one may be the best protection against this type of failure. Charles Miller -Original Message- From: dorset-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk [mailto: dorset-boun...@mailman.lug.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 13 August 2014 17:18 To: Dorset Linux User Group Subject: [Dorset] Should of done a backup I had a Lacie single disk (500gb) nas but for the last few days I have not been able to contact it. I have rebooted it several time via turning it on and off but that made no difference, there is a blue light that come on and occasionally flickers (which is normal). I have tried to access via Linux and Windows, windows has Lacie disk manager program but that claims there are no disks. I have done an ipscan and can account for all the IP's addresses listed, none of the Nas, (both window and linux picked it up by device name and I cant remember the IP address I set it to). My main question is what file system do those device normally run. I was thinking about removing the hard disk and putting it in a USB disk reader and hopefully recovering some or all of my data (making the assumption that it is the Motherboard as such that had died and not the disk). I do have a backup but not a current one, in my defence the USB hard disk I was backing up to died and I have been saving to buy a new nas (as I am currently using 400gb of the 500gb nas disk) and a new usb hard disk to back it up to. Any suggestion or comment appreciated, except those that extract the urine ;) Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Borrow a floppy disk drive
Hi Tim On 29/07/14 13:19, Tim Waugh wrote: Hello! Does anyone have a floppy disk drive I could borrow? I finally get around to investigating some old floppy disks of mine only to realise it must have been years ago that I got rid of the last disk drive I had! Just to add to the offers, I have an internal 5.25" if that's what you're after. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Manipulating PDF Files in Linux
Hi Terry On 18/07/14 14:47, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how I can use tools available in Linux to convert a PDF file to MS Word .doc or .docx format (or even to LibreOffice .odt)? Closest I'm aware of is pdftotext (also pdf2text, pdf2txt etc). But of course you'll lose the formatting. There's also pdf2ps from which maybe you can use http://www.coolutils.com/PS-to-DOC or something similar Cheers Tim I thought I could do it using LibreOffice, but it reads the PDF content as if it is a series of graphical objects with text labels. As a consequence, I can only save it as .odg or export it to a graphical format. The problem is that we have a number of specifications in PDF format. We need to get them into an editable form (preferably word) because they need translating. At work I tried the real thing (Adobe Writer), but it seriously mangles the format, even when it works. The originals seem to have been created using a number of different tools; some were created in MS Word 2010, some PDFCreator (presumably from a Word Source, some with Acrobat Distiller and some by conversion from Postscript. Adobe Writer was only able to save three out of five documents and they were not very good. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
Hi Victor On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's lean and quick. Cheers Tim 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy "Gnome" with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a "Gnome" session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Xubuntu, what should I do
Hi Tim On 11/06/14 22:28, Tim wrote: I used to run Debian a while ago with KDE 2 & 3 and then came back and tried Debian and XFCE 4.8 but I keep finding Debian to be to prim and proper (it must be open and free, while agree in principle but not to the extreme that Debian does), I found that Debian twin sisters (Buntu's, Mepis, Debian Mint, and now Solydxk etc.) are more fun to play with. So long as you include the non-free and contrib repositories in your sources.list that shouldn't be an issue. Glad to hear the old server is still going, was that the Dell server?? No it's the big black Supermicro with a pair of Xeons. If anybody is interested I have 3 HP rack mount server coming up soon, drop me an email if you are interested. I'd be interested in one if available. I'm thinking of retiring my 1989 Northpoint after 25 years of continuous service. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-07-01 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Xubuntu, what should I do
Hi Tim On 10/06/14 22:45, Tim wrote: On 04/06/14 17:44, Tim wrote: Hi TimA I did try Debian a while ago but I just could not get XFCE running nicely compared to other distro's, I also tried Mint XFCE while that was nice I just got lost in a maze of different updates. I only ended up going the Xubuntu route as 12:04 was the best thing I could find at the time. I have been relatively happy with Xubuntu up until now (am not the greatest buntu fan) but it is unfair to blame Xubuntu on one install, I have not seen any other problems similar to mine, I guess I am going to have to wipe it and start again. But should a second install fail I am primarily I looking for a Debian based OS and an XFCE desktop. Regards Tim Just thought I would update all, I eventually lost my patience with Xubuntu and started to download a fresh copy of the 14.04 ISO, while I was waiting I found an article about a distro called SolydXK. It is Debian based and comes in either KDE or XFCE flavours (as well as home and business version and a back office solution). So I downloaded the XFCE flavoured ISO, installed it and have not looked back since. Everything has worked out the box (but then I don't have anything odd or strange on my PC) I feel happy with the my PC again. So it looks like my short 2 year affair with the Buntu family has come to an end. If you want more info on Solydxk then check out http://solydxk.com/ Thanks for the advise Glad you found a distro that met your needs. Out of interest which part of stock Debian XFCE didn't run nicely for you? I'm running it on four different machines (including this old black server tower you kindly let me have a couple of years back!) and haven't had any real problems. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-07-01 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Xubuntu, what should I do
Hi Tim On 03/06/14 21:37, Tim wrote: I installed a fresh copy of Xubuntu 14:04, since installing I have had issues with python related programs not launching (although they did at first), sound issue (gstreamer plugin missing, but does not say what plugin) Installing a new music player resolves the issue until the PC reboots. Youtube video freezing in Firefox or extremely jumpy playback. While I agree that these are all small problem which possibly could be ironed out but having spent 2 weeks getting the install to this point where I moved all my data from 13:10 I cant make my mind up, should I try and resolve the issue, I don't want to spend another two weeks trying to resolve the issues and then decide to wipe it and do a reinstall as I have made no progress or made it worse or should I just wipe it now and do a reinstall and start from scratch. I suppose I could always go back to 13:10 (the PC dual boots with 13:10 and 14:04)? Maybe use your 14.04 partition to give Debian Wheezy a try? Whichever distro you use there'll be some issues when you upgrade, but the 2+ year Debian upgrade cycle vs 6 months for Ubuntu plus the Debian emphasis on stability means at least four times less pain in the long run! GNU/Linux is sufficiently mature that for many years now it's been fine to be well back from the bleeding edge. You can select XFCE desktop when you install Wheezy. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-06-03 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT Software work
Hi All Thanks to all those who responded, I think this is now covered. Tim On 30/05/14 08:31, TimA wrote: Hi I have some software contract work coming up. It will involve detailed reviewing and testing of a small number of functions written in C. We're in Poole but some can be done remotely. If anyone is interested please contact me off-list. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-06-03 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] OT Software work
Hi I have some software contract work coming up. It will involve detailed reviewing and testing of a small number of functions written in C. We're in Poole but some can be done remotely. If anyone is interested please contact me off-list. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-06-03 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
