Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread CPK Smithies 
I'm not sure about their FOSS credentials, but there is a good quantity
of free candidates at

http://www.fontspace.com/category/old%20english

CPKS


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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread Ralph Corderoy 
Hi Clive,

> Installation said put it in the /usr/shares/font folder

You'll probably find creating a ~/.fonts directory and putting the
foo.ttf, etc., in there also works allowing a user to look after their
own additional fonts.

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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread C Wills 

Hi All

Well thanks for the suggestion and I'll be looking at them all later.
Last night I found an 'Old English' font for free so thought I'd try 
it.  Download went OK but trying to 'see' it after installing did not 
work, yes it was there nut not showing any programmes or front viewer.  
Installation said put it in the /usr/shares/font folder, OK it's there; 
reboot, no luck. tried various other combination in that path with no 
luck.  So went to bed.
This morning thought was it a permissions problem so checked and yes; 
only root able to use, change the permissions so both Group and users 
had full permissions

All now OK and appears in every programme I've tried.
Thanks again and learnt a bit more of Linux now (didn't even know where 
fonts were stored at start.


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On 09/07/16 13:41, Terry Coles wrote:

Dowh!  I got the quoting wrong ;-(

On Saturday, 9 July 2016 13:27:16 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:

"Gothic" is another common description of this style to help your
search.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_font

Except that the Goths were a Germanic tribe, not Old English

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic[1]

Clive hasn't shown us an example of the 'Old English' that he needs, but
looking at the
examples on the Internet it looks like whoever named it had no idea that the
font that he
had created looks like the one everyone else calls Gothic and therefore hardly
English.





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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread Adrian Howard 

> On 9 Jul 2016, at 13:41, Terry Coles  wrote:
> 
> Clive hasn't shown us an example of the 'Old English' that he needs, but 
> looking at the 
> examples on the Internet it looks like whoever named it had no idea that the 
> font that he 
> had created looks like the one everyone else calls Gothic and therefore 
> hardly 
> English.

The "English" black letter typefaces are a distinct 12th century evolution of 
earlier black letters. So it’s actually very well named ;-)

The "Gothic" label was initially a term of derision by renaissance folk — read 
it as "barbarian" or "uneducated". Nothing to do with the Goths as an origin of 
black letter. In fact Germanic regions were late in adopting black letter type 
compared to other parts of western Europe. They didn’t really start using 
around the 1500s.

(See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter for those who care to dig into 
the language/history side ;-)

Cheers,

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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread Terry Coles 
Dowh!  I got the quoting wrong ;-(

On Saturday, 9 July 2016 13:27:16 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> "Gothic" is another common description of this style to help your
> search.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_font

Except that the Goths were a Germanic tribe, not Old English 

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic[1] 

Clive hasn't shown us an example of the 'Old English' that he needs, but 
looking at the 
examples on the Internet it looks like whoever named it had no idea that the 
font that he 
had created looks like the one everyone else calls Gothic and therefore hardly 
English.


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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread Terry Coles 
On Saturday, 9 July 2016 13:27:16 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> Old English

Except that the Goths were a Germanic tribe, not Old English :-)

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic[1] 

Clive hasn't shown us an example of the 'Old English' that he needs, but 
looking at the 
examples on the Internet it looks like whoever named it had no idea that the 
font that he 
had created looks like the one everyone else calls Gothic and therefore hardly 
English.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic
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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread Ralph Corderoy 
Hi Clive,

> > Does any one know if there is a Linux (open source) equivalent font
> > to 'Old English'?
>
> UnifrakturCook (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/UnifrakturCook) and
> UnifrakturMaguntia
> (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/UnifrakturMaguntia) are vaguely
> similar open source blackletter fonts.

"Gothic" is another common description of this style to help your
search.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_font

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Re: [Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-09 Thread Adrian Howard 

> On 8 Jul 2016, at 20:04, C Wills  wrote:
> 
> Does any one know if there is a Linux (open source) equivalent font to 'Old 
> English'?  Recently had to make some alterations to a document which had it’s 
> heading in Old English and that was converted to 'Times New Roman' which is 
> nothing like old English.

UnifrakturCook (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/UnifrakturCook) and 
UnifrakturMaguntia (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/UnifrakturMaguntia) are 
vaguely similar open source blackletter fonts.

Cheers,

Adrian

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[Dorset] Alternative fonts

2016-07-08 Thread C Wills 
Does any one know if there is a Linux (open source) equivalent font to 
'Old English'?  Recently had to make some alterations to a document 
which had it's heading in Old English and that was converted to 'Times 
New Roman' which is nothing like old English.
I'm using Mint 17.3 with the usual standard programmes but nothing 
similar is installed.
The conversion from M$ Publisher was into LibreDraw, neither Scribus or 
Inkscape accepted the .pub file without corruption.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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