Re: [Dorset] Download problem - Please help!

2012-04-13 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi again Charles,

 I also see a more complete book version is available, including for
 free download as a PDF, http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php, but I'd
 start with the site and see if it suits you first.

Flicking through _Linux Format_ magazine today I noticed a review of
this;  it got 8/10.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Download problem - Please help!

2012-04-12 Thread John Carlyle-Clarke

On 12/04/12 23:20, Ralph Corderoy wrote:


Thanks for your help - I am determined to get the hang of Linux and
  would like to make much more use of the terminal screen too.



I learnt this decades ago so not a lot of point me referring you to what
I used.  I've had a bit of a look and came up with
http://linuxcommand.org/   It seems fairly easy going to cover the
basics.  I also see a more complete book version is available, including
for free download as a PDF,http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php, but I'd
start with the site and see if it suits you first.


There's also http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/book/ which may or may 
not appeal in terms of level and style.



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[Dorset] Download problem - Please help!

2012-04-09 Thread cam

Help please!

From the very useful list of Linux equivalents to Microsoft software given on
 http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html (part of Move to  
Linux website) I have located a program similar to the old DOS Xtree  
Gold, but this one runs on Linux (note that Ztree, for $19 from  
Ztree.com, runs on Windows).


http://www.han.de/~werner/ytree.html  goes directly to the Ytree  
downloads page.


However, every page along the way towards installation comes up with  
another list of questions I don't know the answer to. Seems I need to  
know what processor is inside my PC and its version it is, and whether  
my Ubuntu 11.04 is Debian or some other Linux variant. Where can I  
find all this information? [I will keep it once I find it as seems to  
be required by many other downloads too!]


I tried 'sudo apt-get install Ytree-1.97.tar.gz' and all the Ubunto  
Software centre options first, but to no avail. I even downloaded the  
tar.gz file and unzipped it, but can't see how to run or install it  
from there even with its full path in sudo apt-get install.


I tried the 'Debian' download, but that wouldn't work either! (so   
much for Linux one-click to download and install claim!).


To date, I have only been able to install the limited range found on  
Ubuntu. All other attempts from non-Ubuntu sites have failed,  
including Adobe for 64 bit PCs. Am I missing something?


Regards,

Charles



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Re: [Dorset] Download problem - Please help!

2012-04-09 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:20:58 +0100, c...@pampru.org said:

 whether  
 my Ubuntu 11.04 is Debian or some other Linux variant.

All Ubuntu versions are derived from Debian, but...

 I tried 'sudo apt-get install Ytree-1.97.tar.gz'

'apt-get install' will only install Debian packages, not tarballs, but...

$ apt-cache search ytree
libtree-simple-visitorfactory-perl - collection of dispensing visitor
objects for Tree::Simple 
libxml-handler-trees-perl - Perl module for building tree structures using
PerlSAX handlers 
mediawiki-extensions-base - Extensions for MediaWiki -- Base package
texlive-latex-extra - TeX Live: LaTeX supplementary packages 
ytree - A file manager for terminals $

(Sorry, the wrapping doesn't help). Notice the last line? So now we can do:

$ aptitude show ytree
Package: ytree   
State: not installed
Version: 1.94-1
Priority: optional
Section: utils
Maintainer: Kevin Coyner kcoy...@debian.org
Uncompressed Size: 254 k
Depends: libc6 (= 2.3), libncursesw5 (= 5.7+20100313), libreadline6 (=
6.0) Recommends: mime-support
Description: A file manager for terminals
 This is a file manager that separates files from directories and allows
you to select and manage files from different directories.  It works on
black and white or color terminals and is UTF-8 locales aware.
Homepage: http://www.han.de/~werner/ytree.html

Sound good? So now you can do:

$ sudo apt-get install ytree

Just tried it here, and it seems to work. I'm running Debian rather than
Ubuntu, but I suspect it will work on Ubuntu too.
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Re: [Dorset] Download problem - Please help!

2012-04-09 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Charles,

 I tried 'sudo apt-get install Ytree-1.97.tar.gz'

Almost.  Try

sudo apt-get install ytree

It's already pre-packaged for Ubuntu, though it may not be the latest
version.  In other words, someone has already taken the .tar.gz of
source, compiled it, and produced a package of the executables for you.

 but can't see how to run or install it  from there even with its full
 path in sudo apt-get install.

apt-get's install always wants the name of a package from the
repositories, never a file of source or built binaries.

When looking for ytree in the repositories I also came across the gnuit
package containing another suite of programs that mentions XTree.

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Download problem - Please help!

2012-04-09 Thread cam

Thanks Keith and Ralph, especially for a very quick response!

I tried Keith's method first by copy/paste; seemed to install, but I  
could not find the installed file.


Next I tried Ralph's method, same result.

Tried ytree in the terminal and got a display of the home tree only,  
but it would not do anything else so doesn't seem to be a working  
install.


Located and installed GNUIT. It is a collection of files, one named  
'gitview' seemed likely to be their tree viewer, so typed gitview into  
the terminal which returned a list of suffixes. Selected -b (no  
colours) and typed gitview -b but it would not run. Tried various  
configurations and variations of using the suffixes, but no success.  
It always returns 'no command' or just re-iterates the suffix list


I am well used to the old DOS commands and still remember some, but  
none worked in terminal.


By contrast, I installed a trial of Ztree on my Windows machine with  
ease and it runs.


Seems I need to become an IT specialist before I can use Linux  
applications. I don't mind getting much more involved, but where can I  
go to learn? (This probably explains why Microsoft and Apple are so  
much more widely used than Linux!)


Thanks for your help - I am determined to get the hang of Linux and  
would like to make much more use of the terminal screen too.


Charles


Quoting Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk:


Hi Charles,


I tried 'sudo apt-get install Ytree-1.97.tar.gz'


Almost.  Try

sudo apt-get install ytree

It's already pre-packaged for Ubuntu, though it may not be the latest
version.  In other words, someone has already taken the .tar.gz of
source, compiled it, and produced a package of the executables for you.


but can't see how to run or install it  from there even with its full
path in sudo apt-get install.


apt-get's install always wants the name of a package from the
repositories, never a file of source or built binaries.

When looking for ytree in the repositories I also came across the gnuit
package containing another suite of programs that mentions XTree.

Cheers, Ralph.

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