Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
OK, have installed Mate and first impressions are pretty positive. WIll run with it for a while and compare the experience with Lubuntu on works laptop and SQueeze on the other box. Thanks! On 14 July 2014 22:14, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: > Yep, I took David W's advice and installed MATE on a new Debian VM, and I > haven't regretted it. > On 14 Jul 2014 18:26, "David Wilkinson" wrote: > > > +1 for MATE, Run it on all my newer builds. > > > > On 14/07/14 16:58, StarLion wrote: > > > >> MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official > repositories > >> now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names > >> (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
Yep, I took David W's advice and installed MATE on a new Debian VM, and I haven't regretted it. On 14 Jul 2014 18:26, "David Wilkinson" wrote: > +1 for MATE, Run it on all my newer builds. > > On 14/07/14 16:58, StarLion wrote: > >> MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories >> now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names >> (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). >> >> >> >> > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
+1 for MATE, Run it on all my newer builds. On 14/07/14 16:58, StarLion wrote: MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
Thanks everybody. I figured that something like that had hapened but did not know how to get back to a Gnome 2-like place. I have used XFCE in the past happily so have installed that and wil also give MAte a go, as I have heard some good things about it. Thanks again! On 14 July 2014 16:58, StarLion wrote: > MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories > now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names > (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). > > > On 14 July 2014 16:13, TimA wrote: > > > Hi Victor > > > > > > > > On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: > > > >> I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been > >> struggling with Ubuntu. > >> > >> lsb_release -a > >> No LSB modules are available. > >> Distributor ID: Debian > >> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) > >> Release: 7.5 > >> Codename: wheezy > >> > >> > >> I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, > running > >> 6.0.7 squeeze. > >> > >> For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the > ordinary. > >> > >> On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar > >> panel > >> and menus (1). > >> > >> On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that > I > >> was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). > >> When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable > (3,4). > >> > >> Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop > like > >> I have on Squeeze? > >> > >> > > Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and > > can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember > > correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. > It's > > lean and quick. > > > > Cheers > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > 1: Squeeze desktop > >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ > >> SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html > >> > >> 2. Wheezy 'Classic' > >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ > >> WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html > >> > >> 3. Wheezy "Gnome" with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( > >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ > >> Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html > >> > >> 4. What I got on a "Gnome" session screenshot when all I could see was > >> plain blue > >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ > >> Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
MATE is also an alternative that I believe is in the official repositories now - it's a fork of Gnome 2 and is effectively identical but for names (Due to licensing restrictions, I believe). On 14 July 2014 16:13, TimA wrote: > Hi Victor > > > > On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: > >> I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been >> struggling with Ubuntu. >> >> lsb_release -a >> No LSB modules are available. >> Distributor ID: Debian >> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) >> Release: 7.5 >> Codename: wheezy >> >> >> I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running >> 6.0.7 squeeze. >> >> For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. >> >> On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar >> panel >> and menus (1). >> >> On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I >> was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). >> When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). >> >> Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like >> I have on Squeeze? >> >> > Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and > can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember > correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's > lean and quick. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > > > 1: Squeeze desktop >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html >> >> 2. Wheezy 'Classic' >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html >> >> 3. Wheezy "Gnome" with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html >> >> 4. What I got on a "Gnome" session screenshot when all I could see was >> plain blue >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html >> >> > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
You could try and use the MATE desktop, which is a fork of the old Gnome2 desktop http://mate-desktop.org On 14 Jul 2014 16:14, "TimA" wrote: > Hi Victor > > > On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: > >> I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been >> struggling with Ubuntu. >> >> lsb_release -a >> No LSB modules are available. >> Distributor ID: Debian >> Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) >> Release: 7.5 >> Codename: wheezy >> >> >> I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running >> 6.0.7 squeeze. >> >> For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. >> >> On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar >> panel >> and menus (1). >> >> On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I >> was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). >> When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). >> >> Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like >> I have on Squeeze? >> >> > Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and > can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember > correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's > lean and quick. > > Cheers > > Tim > > > > 1: Squeeze desktop >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html >> >> 2. Wheezy 'Classic' >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html >> >> 3. Wheezy "Gnome" with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html >> >> 4. What I got on a "Gnome" session screenshot when all I could see was >> plain blue >> http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/ >> Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html >> >> > > -- > Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 > Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ > New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk > How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue > -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
Hi Victor On 14/07/14 15:48, Victor Churchill wrote: I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? Wheezy went to Gnome 3. XFCE is pretty close in appearance to Gnome 2 and can be installed instead of Gnome (advanced install options if I remember correctly). I migrated all my machines to XFCE when Wheezy came along. It's lean and quick. Cheers Tim 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy "Gnome" with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a "Gnome" session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] Has something changed with Debian Desktops?
I recently did a Debian istalll onto a machine which had previously been struggling with Ubuntu. lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) Release: 7.5 Codename: wheezy I have an older machine which I installed Debian onto a while ago, running 6.0.7 squeeze. For both installations I don't believe I did anything out of the ordinary. On the Squeeze machine I have a 'nice', useable desktop with familiar panel and menus (1). On the Wheezy I have something that looks more like the new Ubuntu that I was running away from, when I log in with a 'Gnome Classic' desktop (2). When I log in with regular 'Gnome' session selected it's abominable (3,4). Is there something I need to do to get a good old Gnome 2-ish desktop like I have on Squeeze? 1: Squeeze desktop http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/SqueezeDesktop_zps0970bde2.png.html 2. Wheezy 'Classic' http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/WheezyDesktop1_zpsf7cc4643.png.html 3. Wheezy "Gnome" with illegible panel - Radio Gnome Invisible B-( http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183526_zps64093321.png.html 4. What I got on a "Gnome" session screenshot when all I could see was plain blue http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/johnvictoredington/media/Screenshotfrom2014-07-09183649_zps0685cfb2.png.html -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-08-05 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
