Re: [Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
On Monday, 8 August 2016 23:37:23 BST you wrote: > Hi The links work on my iphone which is running IOS 6.1.6 ! Thanks. According to various sources iOS 6 was released in Sept 2012, with iOS 6.0.1 to 6.0.3 coming out in Nov to Dec. I can't work out when iOS 6.0.6 was released, but 6.1 was released early in 2013, so it looks like iPhones manufactured after mid 2012 will all work with an .mp3 file. I suspect that in the phone market a four-year old phone is a rarity (especially iPhones which had batteries that couldn't easily be replaced), so we may be OK with any iOS phone that is likely to turn up. Tablets may last longer though, so earlier reports would still be welcome. I have now tested using an Asus Transformer running Ice Cream Sandwich, (circa Oct 2011), so I'm feeling fairly comfortable with Android devices too. I still need information regarding Windows Phone/Mobile, if anyone has a device. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
Hi The links work on my iphone which is running IOS 6.1.6 ! Stephen Bell Hi, Those who were at the Meeting last Tuesday will be aware that one of the projects for the Wimborne Model Town this winter is to develop an Audio guide for visitors to use on their phones and other mobile devices. To avoid having to develop multiple apps for Android, iOS and Windows, we intend to serve up a web page from a local Wireless Access Point with the audio simply accessed via an tag. On Tuesday evening, some reservations were expressed about the codecs that would be compatible with the different OS types. I've coded a very crude web page with a sample telling the History of the Model Town. Ignore the level (which is a bit low at present) and my rubbish narration, what I need to know is can people play the samples on the page below with a Windows Phone or older iPhone or iPad? Key information I need is: 1. What works? 2. If it doesn't work, what is the device and what is the codec? 3. How long it takes for each sample to commence playing after the play button is pressed? 4. Can you see the sample loading when you first visit the page? (You might have to look out for this, because the device caches the audio.) Samples are pre-loaded, so there shouldn't be an appreciable lag after all of the samples have arrived. The .wav is the biggest file and I can visibly see it loading on my phone, especially when I'm in a low signal area (eg, not on Wi Fi). However, as long as it loaded at all (sometimes it didn't), it doesn't take too long. http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/HTML5_Test/Audio_test.html[1] I've tested it with my desktop, my Nexus 5 Android phone, my laptop, my daughters (Android) phone and my Chromebook. All three codecs work using Chromium and Firefox. My daughter's partner also tested it on his newish iPhone and .ogg didn't work. On a Windows 10 laptop, .ogg also failed. What we would like to do is use .mp3, because, so far it has worked on everything and it is smaller than .wav. However, if it turns out that Windows phone or old iOS devices won't load .mp3, then I'll have to provide .wav too. As far as I'm aware, .mp3 has worked on Android for ever, but if anyone knows different.. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
On Saturday, 6 August 2016 19:59:47 BST Patrick Wigmore wrote: > On Saturday 06 Aug 2016, at 18:45:45, Terry Coles wrote: > > ...what I need to know is can people play the samples on the > > page below with a Windows Phone or older iPhone or iPad? > > I tried the page in Safari on my university-issued iPad Mini, Thanks. > I am not sure whether it counts as an old iPad. The hardware is > getting on a bit, but the software is up to date. Yes, I guess what I really need is testing by someone who has an old 'i' or Windows device which is no longer kept up to date by the vendor. > The MP3 and WAV versions work. The OGG version does not. > > The MP3 version appeared to load entirely as soon as the page was > viewed. It played back with no noticeable delay after pressing > play. That's what I expected. > The WAV version appeared not to load onto the device at all until > I had pressed play. It also played back with no noticeable delay > after pressing play, while the rest of the file loaded in the > background, which took about a second on my WiFi/ADSL connection. That surprises me a bit, but if Safari is capable of playing the file while it is still loading, I guess it make no difference to the user. > If nobody on this list has a suitable device, perhaps you or > someone else could take advantage of the Open Device Lab > Bournemouth to do this sort of testing. > https://odl.wearebase.com/ That looks like a useful place. I may pop along and have a look at it sometime, possibly when we have a prototype ready. Thanks again. Any other people out there with 'i' or Windows Mobile / Phone devices? (I suppose I'm a bit optimistic asking for Windows stuff on a Linux List ) -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
On Saturday 06 Aug 2016, at 18:45:45, Terry Coles wrote: > ...what I need to know is can people play the samples on the > page below with a Windows Phone or older iPhone or iPad? I tried the page in Safari on my university-issued iPad Mini, which has the user agent string: > Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; CPU OS 9_3_1 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0 Mobile/13E238 Safari/601.1 I am not sure whether it counts as an old iPad. The hardware is getting on a bit, but the software is up to date. The MP3 and WAV versions work. The OGG version does not. The MP3 version appeared to load entirely as soon as the page was viewed. It played back with no noticeable delay after pressing play. The WAV version appeared not to load onto the device at all until I had pressed play. It also played back with no noticeable delay after pressing play, while the rest of the file loaded in the background, which took about a second on my WiFi/ADSL connection. If nobody on this list has a suitable device, perhaps you or someone else could take advantage of the Open Device Lab Bournemouth to do this sort of testing. https://odl.wearebase.com/ -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
On Saturday, 6 August 2016 19:12:28 BST Ralph Corderoy wrote: > I can't help with device testing, but peruse > http://caniuse.com/#search=audio and you will see details of what > browsers support the tag, and what audio file formats are > supported by different browsers. The columns default to the mainstream, > but "Show all" adds many more. Don't know if they include the mobile > ones you're interested in. You can search for "ogg" too, as an example. Thanks Ralph, I searched for 'What codecs can I play in an iPhone | Windows' phone and still didn't find that. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
Re: [Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
Hi Terry, > On Tuesday evening, some reservations were expressed about the codecs that > would be compatible with the different OS types. I can't help with device testing, but peruse http://caniuse.com/#search=audio and you will see details of what browsers support the tag, and what audio file formats are supported by different browsers. The columns default to the mainstream, but "Show all" adds many more. Don't know if they include the mobile ones you're interested in. You can search for "ogg" too, as an example. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR
[Dorset] Help Needed: Can anyone with a Windows Phone or an older iPhone or iPad test this link?
Hi, Those who were at the Meeting last Tuesday will be aware that one of the projects for the Wimborne Model Town this winter is to develop an Audio guide for visitors to use on their phones and other mobile devices. To avoid having to develop multiple apps for Android, iOS and Windows, we intend to serve up a web page from a local Wireless Access Point with the audio simply accessed via an tag. On Tuesday evening, some reservations were expressed about the codecs that would be compatible with the different OS types. I've coded a very crude web page with a sample telling the History of the Model Town. Ignore the level (which is a bit low at present) and my rubbish narration, what I need to know is can people play the samples on the page below with a Windows Phone or older iPhone or iPad? Key information I need is: 1. What works? 2. If it doesn't work, what is the device and what is the codec? 3. How long it takes for each sample to commence playing after the play button is pressed? 4. Can you see the sample loading when you first visit the page? (You might have to look out for this, because the device caches the audio.) Samples are pre-loaded, so there shouldn't be an appreciable lag after all of the samples have arrived. The .wav is the biggest file and I can visibly see it loading on my phone, especially when I'm in a low signal area (eg, not on Wi Fi). However, as long as it loaded at all (sometimes it didn't), it doesn't take too long. http://www.hadrian-way.co.uk/HTML5_Test/Audio_test.html[1] I've tested it with my desktop, my Nexus 5 Android phone, my laptop, my daughters (Android) phone and my Chromebook. All three codecs work using Chromium and Firefox. My daughter's partner also tested it on his newish iPhone and .ogg didn't work. On a Windows 10 laptop, .ogg also failed. What we would like to do is use .mp3, because, so far it has worked on everything and it is smaller than .wav. However, if it turns out that Windows phone or old iOS devices won't load .mp3, then I'll have to provide .wav too. As far as I'm aware, .mp3 has worked on Android for ever, but if anyone knows different.. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2016-09-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk / CHECK IF YOU'RE REPLYING Reporting bugs well: http://goo.gl/4Xue / TO THE LIST OR THE AUTHOR