Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-14 Thread David Wilkinson

 On 13/11/2010 14:29, John Cooper wrote:
 I suspect if ipv6 was about to be rolled out, all routers will have 
FW updates to support it.


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IPv6 is been rolled out on quite a few networks, I think the main 
problem is end user ISP's not rolling out, if more did then we would see 
more Consumer grade routers get updates to support it.


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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-14 Thread David Wilkinson

 On 13/11/2010 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours?

I use a 3Com Wireless router.

Peter M.




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Mine does, Cisco 877W

looks like OpenWRT based routers will support it if your router supports 
OpenWRT or its derivatives


I would think most routers will need a firmware update to support ipv6

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-14 Thread StarLion
 Mine does, Cisco 877W

 looks like OpenWRT based routers will support it if your router supports
 OpenWRT or its derivatives

 I would think most routers will need a firmware update to support ipv6


AFAIK, I don't think mine supports IPv6 or OpenWRT. A Netgear DG834PN
modem router... it's served me well though, and given that it was a
round £100 with two free USB wireless adaptors and all the cables
needed, it wasn't a bad deal.
The only down-side I have with Netgear stuff is that their wireless
adaptors don't seem to have any uniform versioning system...

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-14 Thread John Cooper

On 13/11/10 14:39, David Wilkinson wrote:

On 13/11/2010 14:29, John Cooper wrote:

I suspect if ipv6 was about to be rolled out, all routers will have FW
updates to support it.

John.



IPv6 is been rolled out on quite a few networks, I think the main
problem is end user ISP's not rolling out, if more did then we would see
more Consumer grade routers get updates to support it.



I only knew of the DNS root servers but the wiki page also says Google 
and Facebook have ipv6 interfaces available. The migration will be 
painful for ISPs and after a period of dual working they'll have to bite 
the bullet and turn off ipv4!


John.

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[Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Peter Merchant
After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours? 

I use a 3Com Wireless router.

Peter M.




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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread John Cooper

On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours?



My Linksys WAG160 doesn't support it. You have to be careful about 
predicting when ipv4 addresses will run out as CIDR has been so 
successful, it could last another 10 years. I suspect if ipv6 was about 
to be rolled out, all routers will have FW updates to support it.


John.

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Dart
Most do, but it's the ISP that you have to wait for.

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Jones
On 13 November 2010 14:29, John Cooper l...@discoverlinux.co.uk wrote:

 On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

 After reading this article in the telegraph today

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

 About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
 2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
 Will yours?


 My Linksys WAG160 doesn't support it. You have to be careful about
 predicting when ipv4 addresses will run out as CIDR has been so successful,
 it could last another 10 years. I suspect if ipv6 was about to be rolled
 out, all routers will have FW updates to support it.

 John.


Anyone know of any ISPs in the UK that support IPv6?

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread StarLion
 Anyone know of any ISPs in the UK that support IPv6?

 ~Dan

To my knowledge, none of them do. I don't think any ISP anywhere does,
for that matter.
Switching from v4 to v6 isn't going to be a simple matter - most
end-users won't understand, and will probably be left with limited
online capabilities unless something's done to keep older systems
backward-compatible.

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Dart
 I don't think any ISP anywhere does, for that matter.

I talked to some guy with IPv6 - I can't remember, but I know some ISPs do.

I was testing others' IPv6 connectivity as I had a Miredo tunnel to
give me a global address.

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 13/11/10 17:12, Dan Dart wrote:
 I don't think any ISP anywhere does, for that matter.
 I talked to some guy with IPv6 - I can't remember, but I know some ISPs do.

 I was testing others' IPv6 connectivity as I had a Miredo tunnel to
 give me a global address.

Apparently Andrews and Arnold do:

http://www.aaisp.net.uk/kb-broadband-ipv6.html

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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Andrew Morgan

On 13/11/10 14:10, Peter Merchant wrote:

After reading this article in the telegraph today
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet/8126181/UK-will-run-out-of-web-addresses-by-2012.html

About Vint Cerf saying that the Uk will run out of IP (V4) addresses by
2012, I wondered  if my Router would support IPV6 on the Internet Side.
Will yours?

I use a 3Com Wireless router.


I have a D-Link DIR-825 running OpenWRT which does IPv6. All devices 
which you can run OpenWRT on should have IPv6. But I'm not using it as a 
router and my ISP doesn't do IPv6 yet. This isn't an ADSL router though, 
I'd need another device to actually use it as an internet router. My 
ADSL router is a Netgear DG834Gv3 which, good as it is, doesn't support 
IPv6 and OpenWRT hasn't been ported to it.


I used a 2wire router a few years ago which was on some BT internet 
connection (they have so many names for their internet services it's 
hard to keep track!) and not only did the router support IPv6 but my 
laptop got an IPv6 address, which worked! I'm not sure if that was a 
testing phase at BT or what though.


The other day I installed Windows 7 in a kvm virtual machine, using 
kvm's default networking setup, and somehow Windows managed to get a 
real routable IPv6 address! I'm not sure how it did that as there's no 
IPv6 on my network at all. Or was it kvm? I'd love to know how that 
happened. I then re-booted the VM and since that Windows networking 
hasn't worked. At all.


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Re: [Dorset] IPV6 article in Daily Telegraph

2010-11-13 Thread Dan Dart
 The other day I installed Windows 7 in a kvm virtual machine, using kvm's
 default networking setup, and somehow Windows managed to get a real routable
 IPv6 address! I'm not sure how it did that as there's no IPv6 on my network
 at all

Windows 7 uses Teredo tunneling by default, which gives you a tunnel
to an IPv4 server with an IPv6 connection to get you the IPv6 tunneled
all the way.
However, only apps designed for it will work with it in Windows. So no
ipv6.google.com in the browser.

You can get free software for the protocol by installing the Miredo
package and it will work the same, except give you a network virtual
device called teredo which it tunnels all IPv6 traffic through, and
you CAN get ipv6.google.com!

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