Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
Hi Tim, They look nice, I agree, but I've an eye on power consumption. Some low-powered CPU with an SSD sitting as a buffer in front of hard disks that occasionally spin up? HP Microserver consumes 29W with disk spinning. I'm paying 12.39p/kWh at the moment, which I think is quite good, so that makes it 29 / 1,000 * 24 * 365 * 12.39 / 100 = £31.475556 a year Not bad. Out of interest, the Crucial MX100 SSD is about 3.4W under load, 100mW slumbering. http://www.anandtech.com/show/8066/crucial-mx100-256gb-512gb-review/8 But you'd need something low-power *with* SSD to hook it up to, so not Raspberry Pi, Pandaboard ES, BeagleBone Black, ... Oh, and cheap. :-) http://www.timj.co.uk/2013/07/building-a-tiny-low-power-linux-nas/ used an Intel Atom mini-ITX board to get 14-15W. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
Hi Peter On 14/08/14 20:24, Peter Merchant wrote: On 13/08/14 17:17, Tim wrote: I had a Lacie single disk (500gb) nas but for the last few days I have not been able to contact it. I have rebooted it several time via turning it on and off but that made no difference, there is a blue light that come on and occasionally flickers (which is normal). I have tried to access via Linux and Windows, windows has Lacie disk manager program but that claims there are no disks. Tim This raises the question:- that's two Lacie drives that have failed in our LUG population, Are they any good, or is there a better unit? One option is an HP Microserver. Up to now they'd done a £100 cashback twice a year (next one due Sept-Oct), meaning they come in at around £100, although I see now priced at £114+VAT anyway, so the days of the cashback may be over. Then stick your favourite distro on it and install Samba to provide a CIFS server, along with whatever else (BIND9, DHCP3 etc) and any external USB disks you want. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
I have a HP Microserver - excellent little unit! :) They come with a single 250GB SATA hard disk and have four bays so you can add up to three more. Mine runs CentOS 6.5 very well, used for storage and as a development web server. The great thing is that, unlike a NAS, I have control of the software and configuration. I paid just over £100 for mine, second hand on eBay. It looked like new and the SMART values on the hard disk suggest it had had under 200 hours use. Paul. On 15/08/2014 07:49, Tim Allen wrote: Hi Peter On 14/08/14 20:24, Peter Merchant wrote: On 13/08/14 17:17, Tim wrote: I had a Lacie single disk (500gb) nas but for the last few days I have not been able to contact it. I have rebooted it several time via turning it on and off but that made no difference, there is a blue light that come on and occasionally flickers (which is normal). I have tried to access via Linux and Windows, windows has Lacie disk manager program but that claims there are no disks. Tim This raises the question:- that's two Lacie drives that have failed in our LUG population, Are they any good, or is there a better unit? One option is an HP Microserver. Up to now they'd done a £100 cashback twice a year (next one due Sept-Oct), meaning they come in at around £100, although I see now priced at £114+VAT anyway, so the days of the cashback may be over. Then stick your favourite distro on it and install Samba to provide a CIFS server, along with whatever else (BIND9, DHCP3 etc) and any external USB disks you want. Cheers Tim -- *Paul Stenning* SP Technology Box 170, 89 Commercial Road, Bournemouth, BH2 5RR p...@sp-tech.co.uk mailto:p...@sp-tech.co.uk www.sp-tech.co.uk http://www.sp-tech.co.uk /Before printing, please consider the environment./ *Confidentiality* This email and its attachments (if any) are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error, then delete them from your computer immediately. *Security Warning* Please note that this email has been created in the knowledge that email is not a 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. *Viruses* Although we have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are virus free. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
I was meaning to buy one of those HP Microservers for myself, since we have two at work and they are great units. I kept procrastinating, and suddenly they seemed to vanish from everywhere. The only ones I could find were either stupidly expensive, or second hand (which I'd rather avoid if possible). Have you got a link to a source of them at a reasonable price? If so, I want to snap one up right away! On 15 August 2014 08:29, Paul Stenning p...@sp-tech.co.uk wrote: I have a HP Microserver - excellent little unit! :) They come with a single 250GB SATA hard disk and have four bays so you can add up to three more. Mine runs CentOS 6.5 very well, used for storage and as a development web server. The great thing is that, unlike a NAS, I have control of the software and configuration. I paid just over £100 for mine, second hand on eBay. It looked like new and the SMART values on the hard disk suggest it had had under 200 hours use. Paul. On 15/08/2014 07:49, Tim Allen wrote: Hi Peter On 14/08/14 20:24, Peter Merchant wrote: On 13/08/14 17:17, Tim wrote: I had a Lacie single disk (500gb) nas but for the last few days I have not been able to contact it. I have rebooted it several time via turning it on and off but that made no difference, there is a blue light that come on and occasionally flickers (which is normal). I have tried to access via Linux and Windows, windows has Lacie disk manager program but that claims there are no disks. Tim This raises the question:- that's two Lacie drives that have failed in our LUG population, Are they any good, or is there a better unit? One option is an HP Microserver. Up to now they'd done a £100 cashback twice a year (next one due Sept-Oct), meaning they come in at around £100, although I see now priced at £114+VAT anyway, so the days of the cashback may be over. Then stick your favourite distro on it and install Samba to provide a CIFS server, along with whatever else (BIND9, DHCP3 etc) and any external USB disks you want. Cheers Tim -- *Paul Stenning* SP Technology Box 170, 89 Commercial Road, Bournemouth, BH2 5RR p...@sp-tech.co.uk mailto:p...@sp-tech.co.uk www.sp-tech.co.uk http://www.sp-tech.co.uk /Before printing, please consider the environment./ *Confidentiality* This email and its attachments (if any) are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error, then delete them from your computer immediately. *Security Warning* Please note that this email has been created in the knowledge that email is not a 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. *Viruses* Although we have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are virus free. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
Hi John, Have you got a link to a source of them at a reasonable price? If so, I want to snap one up right away! Perhaps the £129.99 inc VAT http://www.ebuyer.com/616877-hp-proliant-microserver-g7-n54l-1p-4gb-u-non-hot-plug-sata-150w-ps-744900-421 They look nice, I agree, but I've an eye on power consumption. Some low-powered CPU with an SSD sitting as a buffer in front of hard disks that occasionally spin up? Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
Hi John On 15/08/14 11:31, John Carlyle-Clarke wrote: I was meaning to buy one of those HP Microservers for myself, since we have two at work and they are great units. I kept procrastinating, and suddenly they seemed to vanish from everywhere. The only ones I could find were either stupidly expensive, or second hand (which I'd rather avoid if possible). Have you got a link to a source of them at a reasonable price? If so, I want to snap one up right away! £114 + VAT on the HP web site, in stock. http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=744900-421opt=sel=BSRV Cheers Tim On 15 August 2014 08:29, Paul Stenning p...@sp-tech.co.uk wrote: I have a HP Microserver - excellent little unit! :) They come with a single 250GB SATA hard disk and have four bays so you can add up to three more. Mine runs CentOS 6.5 very well, used for storage and as a development web server. The great thing is that, unlike a NAS, I have control of the software and configuration. I paid just over £100 for mine, second hand on eBay. It looked like new and the SMART values on the hard disk suggest it had had under 200 hours use. Paul. On 15/08/2014 07:49, Tim Allen wrote: Hi Peter On 14/08/14 20:24, Peter Merchant wrote: On 13/08/14 17:17, Tim wrote: I had a Lacie single disk (500gb) nas but for the last few days I have not been able to contact it. I have rebooted it several time via turning it on and off but that made no difference, there is a blue light that come on and occasionally flickers (which is normal). I have tried to access via Linux and Windows, windows has Lacie disk manager program but that claims there are no disks. Tim This raises the question:- that's two Lacie drives that have failed in our LUG population, Are they any good, or is there a better unit? One option is an HP Microserver. Up to now they'd done a £100 cashback twice a year (next one due Sept-Oct), meaning they come in at around £100, although I see now priced at £114+VAT anyway, so the days of the cashback may be over. Then stick your favourite distro on it and install Samba to provide a CIFS server, along with whatever else (BIND9, DHCP3 etc) and any external USB disks you want. Cheers Tim -- *Paul Stenning* SP Technology Box 170, 89 Commercial Road, Bournemouth, BH2 5RR p...@sp-tech.co.uk mailto:p...@sp-tech.co.uk www.sp-tech.co.uk http://www.sp-tech.co.uk /Before printing, please consider the environment./ *Confidentiality* This email and its attachments (if any) are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error, then delete them from your computer immediately. *Security Warning* Please note that this email has been created in the knowledge that email is not a 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when emailing us. *Viruses* Although we have taken steps to ensure that this email and attachments are free from any virus, we advise that in keeping with good computing practice the recipient should ensure they are virus free. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
Hi Ralph On 15/08/14 11:57, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi John, Have you got a link to a source of them at a reasonable price? If so, I want to snap one up right away! Perhaps the £129.99 inc VAT http://www.ebuyer.com/616877-hp-proliant-microserver-g7-n54l-1p-4gb-u-non-hot-plug-sata-150w-ps-744900-421 They look nice, I agree, but I've an eye on power consumption. Some low-powered CPU with an SSD sitting as a buffer in front of hard disks that occasionally spin up? HP Microserver consumes 29W with disk spinning. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Should of done a backup - Q1
On 13/08/14 17:17, Tim wrote: I had a Lacie single disk (500gb) nas but for the last few days I have not been able to contact it. I have rebooted it several time via turning it on and off but that made no difference, there is a blue light that come on and occasionally flickers (which is normal). I have tried to access via Linux and Windows, windows has Lacie disk manager program but that claims there are no disks. Tim This raises the question:- that's two Lacie drives that have failed in our LUG population, Are they any good, or is there a better unit? Peter -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2014-09-02 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
