Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Dominic Lonsdale wrote: Is this not getting a bit over complicated ? I just made a bootable USB thumb drive (or flash drive or whatever they are called now) and plugged it in. The CD USB process used to be complicated, also it requires that you have a spare USB flash drive which is large enough. I suspect that it is a good method for a lot of people. I have created the boot CD already, and I have spare CD drives lying around. So for me that's the easiest way to do it. I also suspect that all laptops/netbooks made these days with USB but no optical drive will come with BIOSes which can boot from USB optical drives. And yes, the USB to ATA adapters are available in many places. I have one which looks suspiciously similar to this: http://cpc.farnell.com/_/psg02625/usb-2-0-to-sata-ide-combo-adaptor/dp/CS15616 Comes with a power adapter which isn't pictured. SATA and PATA connectors work at the same time, too. I say USB to ATA rather than IDE because IDE is the wrong terminology and always has been. :) -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 01:03 +, Andrew Morgan wrote: Simon O'Riordan wrote: I've got the HP Mini with Suse, but there is(obviously) no optical drive. How do you put 9.04 onto it? I have done the installation of Ubuntu on my EeePC using a USB CD drive. Usually one connected via a USB ATA adapter. I'm surprised more people don't seem to do this... From memory you press ESC during the BIOS stage to chose the boot drive. -- Andrew. USB ATA Adapter? Where did you get it? Who makes it? How can I get one? Christmas is coming. Peter M. -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Hi Peter Simon O'Riordan wrote: I've got the HP Mini with Suse, but there is(obviously) no optical drive. How do you put 9.04 onto it? I have done the installation of Ubuntu on my EeePC using a USB CD drive. Usually one connected via a USB ATA adapter. I'm surprised more people don't seem to do this... From memory you press ESC during the BIOS stage to chose the boot drive. USB ATA Adapter? Where did you get it? Who makes it? How can I get one? Christmas is coming. Peter M. eBuyer, Maplin, Farnell, RS Components, they all sell them, prices vary from around 5.00 GBP to 30 GBP depending on precise capabilities etc. Here's an example from eBuyer :- http://www.ebuyer.com/product/136214 Good luck and happy disk copying etc. -- Cheers Peter -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Is this not getting a bit over complicated ? I just made a bootable USB thumb drive (or flash drive or whatever they are called now) and plugged it in. Press ESC during BIOS stage and then select device to boot from. I have a bootable drive with Ubuntu loaded and can give it to you. Do you want 9.10 or 9.04 ? On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:41 +, Peter Merchant wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 01:03 +, Andrew Morgan wrote: Simon O'Riordan wrote: I've got the HP Mini with Suse, but there is(obviously) no optical drive. How do you put 9.04 onto it? I have done the installation of Ubuntu on my EeePC using a USB CD drive. Usually one connected via a USB ATA adapter. I'm surprised more people don't seem to do this... From memory you press ESC during the BIOS stage to chose the boot drive. -- Andrew. USB ATA Adapter? Where did you get it? Who makes it? How can I get one? Christmas is coming. Peter M. -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
I got it working over a week ago. Do try and keep up, Pike.:) - Original Message - From: Dominic Lonsdale lonsdale...@btinternet.com To: Dorset Linux User Group dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest Is this not getting a bit over complicated ? I just made a bootable USB thumb drive (or flash drive or whatever they are called now) and plugged it in. Press ESC during BIOS stage and then select device to boot from. I have a bootable drive with Ubuntu loaded and can give it to you. Do you want 9.10 or 9.04 ? On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:41 +, Peter Merchant wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 01:03 +, Andrew Morgan wrote: Simon O'Riordan wrote: I've got the HP Mini with Suse, but there is(obviously) no optical drive. How do you put 9.04 onto it? I have done the installation of Ubuntu on my EeePC using a USB CD drive. Usually one connected via a USB ATA adapter. I'm surprised more people don't seem to do this... From memory you press ESC during the BIOS stage to chose the boot drive. -- Andrew. USB ATA Adapter? Where did you get it? Who makes it? How can I get one? Christmas is coming. Peter M. -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset -- Next meeting: Dorchester, Tuesday 2010-01-05 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Since making the BIOS alteration the fan runs permanently but unobtrusively when running on mains. VIA chucks out heat, but the hardware is more than adequate and it doesn't even get warm anymore. Should be the default really. As for performance, it will run a realtime video edge detection from the internal camera perfectly well, but it has trouble handling realtime face detection where a P4 or even in a pinch a P3 will handle it, although it has to be said that the P3 will hang eventually. Simono On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 22:59 +, Sean Gibbins wrote: Simon O'Riordan wrote: Word to the wise- I noticed the HP2133 getting warm, although there have been no troubles. On the web, certain people suggested that overheating was an issue. It has been replaced by the 2140, with a change from the Via chip to the Atom. IIRC the VIA chips were notorious for chucking out heat while under-performing and it is one reason for them slipping into obscurity in the netbook market. Sean -- www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Word to the wise- I noticed the HP2133 getting warm, although there have been no troubles. On the web, certain people suggested that overheating was an issue. It has been replaced by the 2140, with a change from the Via chip to the Atom. However, I think this is performance-based rather than heating issue based. If you are at all worried about overheating with your HP, go into BIOS at boot time and 'enable' 'fan always on at AC', which gives the cooling fan a higher priority. You will lose battery range, but at a shade under two hours I find it good, and I like the peace of mind from knowing that temperature control is tighter. Simono - Original Message - From: Victor Churchill victorchurch...@gmail.com To: Dorset Linux User Group dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest Sorry, don't know what happened there. Text ended up appearing in the wrong place. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Simon O'Riordan wrote: Word to the wise- I noticed the HP2133 getting warm, although there have been no troubles. On the web, certain people suggested that overheating was an issue. It has been replaced by the 2140, with a change from the Via chip to the Atom. IIRC the VIA chips were notorious for chucking out heat while under-performing and it is one reason for them slipping into obscurity in the netbook market. Sean -- www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 17:36 +, Andrew Morgan wrote: Simon O'Riordan wrote: Thanks Andrew. My HP Mini detects extra drives at boot up and offers options by pressing F9. I would love to buy an external Optical Drive, but I'm doing this on a strict budget until I get a job! Regarding which, the HP Mini will be an extra tool in my arsenal. Such drives may be available on Freecycle, at the local tip or from someone on here who has spares getting in their way. The USB to PATA SATA adapter I have is a very useful device, one of those things that now I have it I don't know how I lived without it. I'm sure they aren't all that expensive, or not considering the use I have had out of it. It allows connecting hard disks and CD drives without opening a case, rebooting, or any of that sort of nonsense. :) And I can connect the drives to a laptop. The adapter combined with an old 'internal' CD drive (which you can also get for free if you don't already have a spare, or borrow one from a desktop PC) works well, for occasional use anyway. -- Andrew. This should have come up two weeks ago. After trying to get rid by Freecycle, I ended up taking about 6 CD drives and all my old hard disks under 10G to the tip. P. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
Hello Archie, I've got the HP Mini with Suse, but there is(obviously) no optical drive. How do you put 9.04 onto it? Simon - Original Message - From: Archie Ferrier archi...@tiscali.co.uk To: dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:40:09 - From: Simon O'Riordan voluntar...@btopenworld.com Subject: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest. To: Dorset Linux User Group dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk Message-ID: cfe1a2a01087481ea2430145835fc...@simonpc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi guys. This Friday is a new North American celebration callled 'Reasons Harvest' where rational people vow to do something nice for themselves by buying something they want. Bearing this in mind, there is a batch of refurbished HP Netbooks on E-bay, Linux of course, probably SUSE, going for ?153 each. I know I'm unemployed, but I'm seriously tempted as I visit a Wetherspoon every day and fancy one of these lovely little machines. Webcam, Lan card with ethernet, Bluetooth, wi-fi, 8.9 inch screen, 1.2 G processor, 1 G Ram, 120G HD. Buy the lot and save me from myself. Simono Hi Simon I am composing this on my HP Mininote which I think is brilliant. It came with Suse but works much better with Kubuntu 9.04. £153 is an absolute bargain. Buy several and give them as Christmas presents. Regards Archie -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest
On Friday 27 Nov 2009, Sean Gibbins wrote: Simon O'Riordan wrote: Hello Archie, I've got the HP Mini with Suse, but there is(obviously) no optical drive. How do you put 9.04 onto it? When I put UNR on my son's Acer One I transferred the image to a usb stick and booted off that. That's how I did it with my wife's Asus EEE. There seem to be two tools available on Linux: USB Startup Disk Creator appeared to work, but neither of the machines I tried it on recognised the disk as bootable. Unetbootin did the trick with no fuss. Both packages are in the Ubuntu Repositories. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest. (and OT: Broken Winblowsbox)
Terry, as long as you have the original XP disc(s) and you haven't installed on more than three motherboards, you should be able to do a transfer. However, you will probably not be able to keep the existing software libraries and data files unless you are lucky enough to be able to do an upgrade install. (XP64-XP64). It is a betting certainty you will need a clean install if you change the hardware. If the box is still reasonably 'good' spec hardware once you have patched it up, I would be tempted to go for something to replace XP which probably isn't available anymore if you don't have it. Vista has compatibility issues with XP, but '7' is supposed to be able to run XP compatibility and drivers. I don't know what that would cost, but it shouldn't be stupendous. Meanwhile I've saved £50 a month on my landline, so it looks like I can go ahead with an HP Mini. FYI 'Reasons Harvest' is a Randian Capitalist believers social phenomenon. They recommend people short of money just buy a bottled water to annoy the Greens and Commies. It's all about being conspicuous. Chance would be a fine thing! Simono - Original Message - From: Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk To: Dorset Linux User Group dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest. (and OT: Broken Winblowsbox) On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009, Simon O'Riordan wrote: This Friday is a new North American celebration callled 'Reasons Harvest' where rational people vow to do something nice for themselves by buying something they want. Bearing this in mind, there is a batch of refurbished Hmm. this sounds like another of those 'ideas' that result in some industry or another selling more stuff. The number of reasons for buying greetings cards has multiplied by at least an order of magnitude since I was a kid and don't start me on 'Trick or Treat'. HP Netbooks on E-bay, Linux of course, probably SUSE, going for £153 each. I know I'm unemployed, but I'm seriously tempted as I visit a Wetherspoon every day and fancy one of these lovely little machines. Webcam, Lan card with ethernet, Bluetooth, wi-fi, 8.9 inch screen, 1.2 G processor, 1 G Ram, 120G HD. Buy the lot and save me from myself. Sorry. We're knee deep in netbooks/laptops s at the moment. Also, my wife's seriously grunty Winblows games PC has just popped it's clogs, so a netbook isn't going to cut the mustard. I'm now thinking about whether to repair or replace. This is a 64-bit, dual- core AMD Athlon running XP 64 (and Kubuntu). My inclination is to replace the motherboard (it fails memtest regardless of which memory chips are installed, but runs OK *nearly* all the time). However, I've no experience of doing this with a Winblows box. I have a nasty feeling that I'll have problems getting it re-activated and even if I do, XP 64 was never very good on the driver front. Anyone else got any thoughts? -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Goodies for Reasons Harvest. (and OT: Broken Winblows box)
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:21:28 +, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk said: and don't start me on 'Trick or Treat'. It's always amused me that parents spend 364 days each year telling their children not to accept sweets from strangers, and one day a year encouraging them to ask strangers for sweets. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Wednesday 2009-12-02 20:00 Dorset LUG: http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
