[Dovecot] mdbox, mdbox_rotate_size 2m default

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
Anyone else test using different values?
Was 2M chosen as a default based on anything specific?
Is there any kind of known range where performance starts to go
downhill if its greater than x or less than y?

Im curious if there would be any obvious reason why I shouldnt set it
to 5-10 megs


[Dovecot] dsync segmentation fault

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
dsync -u bran...@olypen.com mirror mdbox~/mdbox
Segmentation fault

Took me 3 tries before I noticed the missing colon after mdbox


[Dovecot] Haha wow, thats freakin cool... mdbox

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
It didnt really click until I had a ls -ald * on watch while I moved
messages around folders using mdbox... I moved about 200 first to an
Archive folder, and scratched my head wondering why i didnt see any
new m.* files being created after the move. So then I moved some 5k
other messages from other folders to my archive folder...

Then it dawned on me, how damn cool, the data never changes, dovecot
just updates its index of what folder the message is in?!

That is awesome!

Also, I ended up answering my own question on the 2m
mdbox_rotate_size, if a 10 meg email comes through it will write a 10
meg file, so thats cool too.


Re: [Dovecot] Haha wow, thats freakin cool... mdbox

2010-07-18 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Brandon Lamb put forth on 7/18/2010 2:22 AM:
 It didnt really click until I had a ls -ald * on watch while I moved
 messages around folders using mdbox... I moved about 200 first to an
 Archive folder, and scratched my head wondering why i didnt see any
 new m.* files being created after the move. So then I moved some 5k
 other messages from other folders to my archive folder...
 
 Then it dawned on me, how damn cool, the data never changes, dovecot
 just updates its index of what folder the message is in?!
 
 That is awesome!

What happens when these indexes become corrupted, get accidentally deleted, or
have the permissions accidentally changed in a way that they become unreadable
by Dovecot?  Does Dovecot still report the messages as being in the correct
folder?

-- 
Stan


Re: [Dovecot] Questions about dbox (sdbox?), mdbox

2010-07-18 Thread Pascal Volk
On 07/18/2010 03:50 AM Brandon Lamb wrote:
 So I had another thought, if I have a user that has 500 megs of mail
 but its mostly large attachments, with the default mailfile size at 2
 megs this means a 25 meg attachment is going to have to write to and
 read from 13 files every time?

Interesting theory. ;-) But happily wrong.
Messages with a size 2m will get their own storage file.


Regards,
Pascal
-- 
The trapper recommends today:
http://kopfkrebs.de/mitarbeiter/mitarbeiter_der_woche.html


[Dovecot] Unable to get Dovecot LDA/deliver working

2010-07-18 Thread Frank van Amsterdam
I want to setup Dovecot LDA, but I don't understand what I'm doing anymore. 
I have to note that I'm a Linux beginner. I've been trying now for several 
months and I'm about to give up. Till so far I'm having no result. :-(


My current setup is done as described at http://www.linuxmail.info. We use 
Postfix 2.3.3 (with Postgrey, Spamassassin and ClamAV), Dovecot 1.2.11 and 
OpenLDAP 2.4.1 on CentOS 5.5. All incoming e-mail are delivered by Postfix 
in the users' maildir. We use this as a base for SOGo, our groupware 
solution and it runs smoothly.


I have to setup a new mailserver, because we're standardising on Debian. My 
employer wants to have new functions like out-of-office-replies and 
forwarding. I want to make use of sieve. Unfortunately I don't know anyone 
who can help me.


My problem is that I don't understand how the delivery process is working. 
I've read much documentation from Postfix and Dovecot, but I find it too 
difficult to understand.


What do I understand? I know that I have to make changes in /etc/dovecot, 
/etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/master.cf as described at 
http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA.


/etc/dovecot.conf

# OS: Linux 2.6.18-028stab064.7 i686 CentOS release 5.5 (Final) reiserfs
base_dir: /var/run/dovecot/
protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s managesieve
ssl: no
version_ignore: yes
login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login
login_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login
login_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login
login_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login
login_executable(managesieve): /usr/libexec/dovecot/managesieve-login
mail_location: maildir:/home/vmail/%u/Maildir
mail_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap
mail_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap
mail_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3
mail_executable(managesieve): /usr/libexec/dovecot/managesieve
mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap
mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap
mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3
mail_plugin_dir(managesieve): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/managesieve
imap_client_workarounds(default): delay-newmail outlook-idle netscape-eoh
imap_client_workarounds(imap): delay-newmail outlook-idle netscape-eoh
imap_client_workarounds(pop3):
imap_client_workarounds(managesieve):
pop3_client_workarounds(default):
pop3_client_workarounds(imap):
pop3_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-no-nuls oe-ns-eoh
pop3_client_workarounds(managesieve):
managesieve_logout_format(default): bytes=%i/%o
managesieve_logout_format(imap): bytes=%i/%o
managesieve_logout_format(pop3): bytes=%i/%o
managesieve_logout_format(managesieve): bytes ( in=%i : out=%o )
lda:
 postmaster_address: postmas...@domain.nl
 mail_plugins: cmusieve
 mail_plugin_dir: /usr/lib/dovecot/lda
 deliver_log_format: msgid=%m: %$ -- FROM=%f SUBJECT=%s
 log_path: /var/log/dovecot-deliver.log
 info_log_path: /var/log/dovecot-deliver.log
 syslog_facility: mail
 sendmail_path: /usr/lib/sendmail
 rejection_subject: Rejected: %s
 rejection_reason: Your message to %t was automatically rejected:%n%r
 auth_socket_path: /usr/local/var/run/dovecot-auth-master
auth default:
 mechanisms: plain login
 username_format: %Lu
 passdb:
   driver: ldap
   args: /etc/dovecot-ldap.conf
 userdb:
   driver: static
   args: uid=500 gid=500 home=/home/vmail/%u
 socket:
   type: listen
   client:
 path: /var/spool/postfix/private/auth
 mode: 432
 user: postfix
 group: postfix
   master:
 path: /var/run/dovecot/auth-master
 mode: 384
 user: vmail
 group: vmail
plugin:
 sieve: /var/sieve-scripts/%u.sieve
 sieve_dir: %h/sieve
 sieve_global_dir: /var/lib/dovecot/sieve/global/

/etc/postfix/main.cf

virtual_mailbox_domains = /etc/postfix/domains ## Plain text file with the 
domains

virtual_mailbox_base = /home/vmail
virtual_mailbox_maps = ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-users.cf
virtual_alias_maps = ldap:/etc/postfix/ldap-groups.cf
virtual_uid_maps = static:500
virtual_gid_maps = static:500
dovecot_destination_recipient_limit = 1
#virtual_transport = dovecot ## Commented out to deliver by Postfix

/etc/postfix/ldap-users.cf

server_host = localhost
search_base = dc=domain,dc=com
version = 3
query_filter = ((objectclass=mailUser)(mail=%s))
result_attribute = uid
result_format = %s/Maildir/

/etc/postfix/ldap-groups.cf

server_host = localhost
search_base = dc=domain,dc=com
version = 3
query_filter = ((objectclass=mailGroup)(mail=%s))
leaf_result_attribute = mail
special_result_attribute = member

/etc/postfix/master.cf

dovecot   unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/local/libexec/dovecot/deliver -d 
username


I hope someone can help me, because many people on the internet say that it 
is easy. If anyone needs more information or anyone can help me, please 
contact me.


Best, Frank

---
LS: I know that I'm using Hotmail, but I want to post this anonymously. 



Re: [Dovecot] Unable to get Dovecot LDA/deliver working

2010-07-18 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 19:37:01 +0200
Frank van Amsterdam frank122...@hotmail.com articulated:

{snip}

Next time, post the output of:

postconf -n
dovecot -n

Please include log entries to show what your problem is.

BTW, your version of Postfix is seriously deprecated. Would it be
possible to update to the latest stable version before continuing with
this venture?

-- 
Jerry ✌
dovecot.u...@seibercom.net

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
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[Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
I cannot seem to get exim/lda working...

In my exim log i just see these
2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

Now I have all the debugging on as far as i can tell, and exim is
obviously being returned some value from dovecot because it knows
about the maildir that i return from sql, but yet there is zero being
logged in debug or anything else. If I run the dovecot-lda from the
command line with the same then it works and i get logs entered

command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ -e -k -f $sender_address -d
$local_p...@$domain -m $acl_m1

I am returning a home and mail with userdb, the directory does exist,
owned by mail.mail... Im stumped

dovecot -n
# 2.0.rc2: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Debian squeeze/sid
auth_cache_negative_ttl = 30 s
auth_cache_size = 4096
auth_cache_ttl = 30 s
auth_debug = yes
auth_default_realm = olypen.com
auth_mechanisms = plain login
auth_username_format = %Lu
auth_verbose = yes
auth_worker_max_count = 60
base_dir = /var/run/dovecot
debug_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/debug.log
default_client_limit = 1024
default_internal_user = mail
default_login_user = mail
default_vsz_limit = 1073741824
deliver_log_format = %s from %f %$
dict {
  expire = mysql:/etc/dovecot/conf.d/dovecot-dict-expire.conf.ext
}
disable_plaintext_auth = no
dotlock_use_excl = yes
first_valid_gid = 8
first_valid_uid = 8
info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/info.log
last_valid_gid = 8
last_valid_uid = 8
log_path = /var/log/dovecot/dovecot.log
log_timestamp = %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S
login_log_format = %s
login_log_format_elements = (%u) (%r)
mail_access_groups = mail
mail_debug = yes
mail_fsync = never
mail_gid = 8
mail_location = maildir:~/:INDEX=~/dovecot-index
mail_log_prefix = %Ls %u:
mail_max_userip_connections = 4
mail_plugins = quota
mail_privileged_group = mail
mail_uid = 8
mailbox_idle_check_interval = 60 s
maildir_very_dirty_syncs = yes
mdbox_rotate_size = 10485760
namespace {
  hidden = no
  inbox = yes
  location =
  prefix =
  separator = /
  type = private
}
passdb {
  args = /etc/dovecot/conf.d/dovecot-sql.conf.ext
  driver = sql
}
plugin {
  auth_socket_path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-master
  autocreate = Trash
  autocreate2 = Spam
  autocreate3 = Spam.Delivered
  autocreate4 = Spam.Removed
  autocreate5 = Sent
  autocreate6 = Drafts
  autosubscribe = Trash
  autosubscribe2 = Sent
  expire = Trash 30d
  expire2 = Trash/* 30d
  expire3 = Spam 14d
  expire4 = Spam/Removed 6h
  expire5 = Spam/Delivered 2d
  expire6 = Deleted* 30d
  expire7 = Archive 30d
  expire_dict = proxy::expire
  qoute_rule5 = Spam.Delivered:ignore
  quota = maildir:User quota
  quota_rule2 = Trash:ignore
  quota_rule3 = Deleted Items:ignore
  quota_rule4 = Spam:ignore
  quota_rule6 = Spam.Removed:ignore
  quota_warning = storage=95%% /etc/dovecot/quota-warning.sh 95
  quota_warning2 = storage=80%% /etc/dovecot/quota-warning.sh 80
  trash = /etc/dovecot/conf.d/dovecot-trash.conf.ext
  zlib_save = bz2
  zlib_save_level = 6
}
protocols = imap pop3
service auth {
  executable = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/auth
  unix_listener auth-client {
group = mail
mode = 0666
user = mail
  }
  unix_listener auth-master {
group = mail
mode = 0666
user = mail
  }
  unix_listener auth-userdb {
group = mail
mode = 0666
user = mail
  }
  vsz_limit = 536870912
}
service imap-login {
  client_limit = 512
  executable = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login
  process_limit = 20
  process_min_avail = 4
  service_count = 0
  user = dovecot
  vsz_limit = 134217728
}
service imap {
  drop_priv_before_exec = no
  executable = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap
  vsz_limit = 536870912
}
service pop3-login {
  client_limit = 512
  executable = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login
  process_limit = 20
  process_min_avail = 4
  service_count = 0
  user = dovecot
  vsz_limit = 134217728
}
service pop3 {
  drop_priv_before_exec = no
  executable = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3
  vsz_limit = 536870912
}
ssl_cert = /etc/dovecot/ssl/dovecot-cert.pem
ssl_key = /etc/dovecot/ssl/dovecot-key.pem
userdb {
  driver = prefetch
}
userdb {
  args = /etc/dovecot/conf.d/dovecot-sql.conf.ext
  driver = sql
}
valid_chroot_dirs = /mail
verbose_proctitle = yes
protocol lda {
  auth_socket_path = /var/run/dovecot/auth-userdb
  info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot/deliver.log
  lda_mailbox_autocreate = yes
  lda_mailbox_autosubscribe = yes
  log_path = /var/log/dovecot/deliver.log
  mail_fsync = optimized
  mail_plugin_dir = /usr/local/lib/dovecot/lda
  mail_plugins = $mail_plugins
  postmaster_address = postmas...@olypen.com
  quota_full_tempfail = yes
  rejection_reason = Your message to %t with subject of %s was
automatically rejected:%n%r
  rejection_subject = Mailbox Full: %s
  sendmail_path = /usr/sbin/exim
}
protocol imap {
  imap_client_workarounds = delay-newmail 

Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index
..
 command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ -e -k -f $sender_address -d
 $local_p...@$domain -m $acl_m1

Why are you giving -k parameter?

 I am returning a home and mail with userdb, the directory does exist,
 owned by mail.mail... Im stumped

It looks like you're returning 
maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index as the home directory.

Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index
 ..
 command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ -e -k -f $sender_address -d
 $local_p...@$domain -m $acl_m1

 Why are you giving -k parameter?

I dont remember, its something I had entered at some point long ago,
i'll remove it

 I am returning a home and mail with userdb, the directory does exist,
 owned by mail.mail... Im stumped

 It looks like you're returning 
 maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index as the home directory.

I know that was my thought too! But below are the fields in mysql, and
there are also no logs being entered to give me hints at what might be
wrong. It isnt logging to debug, but it DOES if I run the dovecot-lda
from the command line??

home: /mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon
maildir: maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

and dovecot-sql.conf-ext
# Password query
password_query = SELECT 8 AS userdb_uid, \
8 AS userdb_gid, \
password, \
CONCAT(username, '@', domain) AS user, \
mail_pop.home AS userdb_home, \
mail_pop.maildir AS userdb_mail, \
CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
'~/dovecot.sieve' AS userdb_sieve \
FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
'enabled' LIMIT 1

# User query
user_query = SELECT mail_pop.home AS home, \
mail_pop.maildir AS mail, \
8 AS uid, \
8 AS gid, \
CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
'~/dovecot.sieve' AS sieve \
FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
'enabled' LIMIT 1

And the directory:
server:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon# ls -al
total 8
drwxrwx---  4 mail mail   32 Jul 18 00:54 .
drwxrwx---  3 mail mail   20 Jul 18 00:53 ..
drwxrwx--- 27 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 11:22 maildir
drwx-w  4 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 01:20 mdbox


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index
 ..
 command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ -e -k -f $sender_address -d
 $local_p...@$domain -m $acl_m1

 Why are you giving -k parameter?

 I dont remember, its something I had entered at some point long ago,
 i'll remove it

 I am returning a home and mail with userdb, the directory does exist,
 owned by mail.mail... Im stumped

 It looks like you're returning 
 maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index as the home directory.

 I know that was my thought too! But below are the fields in mysql, and
 there are also no logs being entered to give me hints at what might be
 wrong. It isnt logging to debug, but it DOES if I run the dovecot-lda
 from the command line??

 home: /mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon
 maildir: maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

 and dovecot-sql.conf-ext
 # Password query
 password_query = SELECT 8 AS userdb_uid, \
 8 AS userdb_gid, \
 password, \
 CONCAT(username, '@', domain) AS user, \
 mail_pop.home AS userdb_home, \
 mail_pop.maildir AS userdb_mail, \
 CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
 '~/dovecot.sieve' AS userdb_sieve \
 FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
 WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
 'enabled' LIMIT 1

 # User query
 user_query = SELECT mail_pop.home AS home, \
 mail_pop.maildir AS mail, \
 8 AS uid, \
 8 AS gid, \
 CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
 '~/dovecot.sieve' AS sieve \
 FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
 WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
 'enabled' LIMIT 1

 And the directory:
 server:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon# ls -al
 total 8
 drwxrwx---  4 mail mail   32 Jul 18 00:54 .
 drwxrwx---  3 mail mail   20 Jul 18 00:53 ..
 drwxrwx--- 27 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 11:22 maildir
 drwx-w  4 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 01:20 mdbox

I also just now tried changing the maildir field to absolute paths and
now I still get :

No such file or directory: failed to chdir to
maildir:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/maildir:INDEX=/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/maildir/dovecot-index

And still nothing in dovecot's logs showing that exim even talked to it..


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index
 ..
 command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ -e -k -f $sender_address -d
 $local_p...@$domain -m $acl_m1

 Why are you giving -k parameter?

 I dont remember, its something I had entered at some point long ago,
 i'll remove it

 I am returning a home and mail with userdb, the directory does exist,
 owned by mail.mail... Im stumped

 It looks like you're returning 
 maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index as the home directory.

 I know that was my thought too! But below are the fields in mysql, and
 there are also no logs being entered to give me hints at what might be
 wrong. It isnt logging to debug, but it DOES if I run the dovecot-lda
 from the command line??

 home: /mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon
 maildir: maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

 and dovecot-sql.conf-ext
 # Password query
 password_query = SELECT 8 AS userdb_uid, \
 8 AS userdb_gid, \
 password, \
 CONCAT(username, '@', domain) AS user, \
 mail_pop.home AS userdb_home, \
 mail_pop.maildir AS userdb_mail, \
 CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
 '~/dovecot.sieve' AS userdb_sieve \
 FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
 WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
 'enabled' LIMIT 1

 # User query
 user_query = SELECT mail_pop.home AS home, \
 mail_pop.maildir AS mail, \
 8 AS uid, \
 8 AS gid, \
 CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
 '~/dovecot.sieve' AS sieve \
 FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
 WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
 'enabled' LIMIT 1

 And the directory:
 server:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon# ls -al
 total 8
 drwxrwx---  4 mail mail   32 Jul 18 00:54 .
 drwxrwx---  3 mail mail   20 Jul 18 00:53 ..
 drwxrwx--- 27 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 11:22 maildir
 drwx-w  4 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 01:20 mdbox

 I also just now tried changing the maildir field to absolute paths and
 now I still get :

 No such file or directory: failed to chdir to
 maildir:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/maildir:INDEX=/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/maildir/dovecot-index

 And still nothing in dovecot's logs showing that exim even talked to it..


Curious, I just changed the maildir field to
/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/Maildir and now it delivered,
curious!

Its like it didnt understand the mailbox type or something?


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index
 ..
 command = /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/ -e -k -f $sender_address -d
 $local_p...@$domain -m $acl_m1

 Why are you giving -k parameter?

 I dont remember, its something I had entered at some point long ago,
 i'll remove it

 I am returning a home and mail with userdb, the directory does exist,
 owned by mail.mail... Im stumped

 It looks like you're returning 
 maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index as the home directory.

 I know that was my thought too! But below are the fields in mysql, and
 there are also no logs being entered to give me hints at what might be
 wrong. It isnt logging to debug, but it DOES if I run the dovecot-lda
 from the command line??

 home: /mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon
 maildir: maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

 and dovecot-sql.conf-ext
 # Password query
 password_query = SELECT 8 AS userdb_uid, \
 8 AS userdb_gid, \
 password, \
 CONCAT(username, '@', domain) AS user, \
 mail_pop.home AS userdb_home, \
 mail_pop.maildir AS userdb_mail, \
 CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
 '~/dovecot.sieve' AS userdb_sieve \
 FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
 WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
 'enabled' LIMIT 1

 # User query
 user_query = SELECT mail_pop.home AS home, \
 mail_pop.maildir AS mail, \
 8 AS uid, \
 8 AS gid, \
 CONCAT('*:storage=', quota, 'M') AS quota_rule, \
 '~/dovecot.sieve' AS sieve \
 FROM `auth` LEFT JOIN (mail_pop) ON (mail_pop.user_id = auth.user_id)
 WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d' AND mail_pop.status =
 'enabled' LIMIT 1

 And the directory:
 server:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon# ls -al
 total 8
 drwxrwx---  4 mail mail   32 Jul 18 00:54 .
 drwxrwx---  3 mail mail   20 Jul 18 00:53 ..
 drwxrwx--- 27 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 11:22 maildir
 drwx-w  4 mail mail 4096 Jul 18 01:20 mdbox

 I also just now tried changing the maildir field to absolute paths and
 now I still get :

 No such file or directory: failed to chdir to
 maildir:/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/maildir:INDEX=/mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/maildir/dovecot-index

 And still nothing in dovecot's logs showing that exim even talked to it..


 Curious, I just changed the maildir field to
 /mail/mail2/b/olypen.com/brandon/Maildir and now it delivered,
 curious!

 Its like it didnt understand the mailbox type or something?

So I switched mysql back to sending full path for home, and
maildir:~/maildir and mdbox:~/mdbox for my two test accounts. Imap
works just fine, it seems like just lda doesnt understand the returned
mail field


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
 So I switched mysql back to sending full path for home, and
 maildir:~/maildir and mdbox:~/mdbox for my two test accounts. Imap
 works just fine, it seems like just lda doesnt understand the returned
 mail field

I meant maildir:~/maildir and mdbox:~/mdbox for *mail* field not home


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 18.7.2010, at 20.40, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 So I switched mysql back to sending full path for home, and
 maildir:~/maildir and mdbox:~/mdbox for my two test accounts. Imap
 works just fine, it seems like just lda doesnt understand the returned
 mail field

What does lda log with mail_debug=yes and auth_debug=yes?


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 20.40, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 So I switched mysql back to sending full path for home, and
 maildir:~/maildir and mdbox:~/mdbox for my two test accounts. Imap
 works just fine, it seems like just lda doesnt understand the returned
 mail field

 What does lda log with mail_debug=yes and auth_debug=yes?


Nothing, thats why Im scratching my head... If I return
maildir:~/maildir or maildir:~/fullpath NOTHING is logged, but
exim logs the error about no file or directory. But if I return just
fullpath for mail, then it delivers mail AND logs debugging. seems
like maybe it bails out before writing a log or something.


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 In my exim log i just see these
 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

Actually, there is no such error message in Dovecot code. It's exim that logs 
this error..



Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 In my exim log i just see these
 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

 Actually, there is no such error message in Dovecot code. It's exim that logs 
 this error..

Right but that means exim is talking to dovecot-lda because it is
getting the maildir:~/maildir value, no way exim could no that unless
dovecot told it. So then there SHOULD be a log in debug or deliver
from lda if exim got that showing *something* right?


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 18.7.2010, at 21.28, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:
 
 In my exim log i just see these
 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index
 
 Actually, there is no such error message in Dovecot code. It's exim that 
 logs this error..
 
 Right but that means exim is talking to dovecot-lda because it is
 getting the maildir:~/maildir value, no way exim could no that unless
 dovecot told it. So then there SHOULD be a log in debug or deliver
 from lda if exim got that showing *something* right?

Or is it possible that Exim looks up mail field as a home directory from the 
database? I think this error happens before dovecot-lda is even run (it's 
chdiring before running it).



Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 21.28, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote:
 On 18.7.2010, at 19.57, Brandon Lamb wrote:

 In my exim log i just see these
 2010-07-18 11:51:08 1OaYOJ-0003Vn-2P == bran...@olypen.com
 R=router_pop T=dovecot_deliver defer (2): No such file or directory:
 failed to chdir to maildir:~/maildir:INDEX=~/maildir/dovecot-index

 Actually, there is no such error message in Dovecot code. It's exim that 
 logs this error..

 Right but that means exim is talking to dovecot-lda because it is
 getting the maildir:~/maildir value, no way exim could no that unless
 dovecot told it. So then there SHOULD be a log in debug or deliver
 from lda if exim got that showing *something* right?

 Or is it possible that Exim looks up mail field as a home directory from the 
 database? I think this error happens before dovecot-lda is even run (it's 
 chdiring before running it).

But I thought exim just pipes the mail to dovecot-lda and then
dovecot-lda looks up the user info, home and mail location and
actually writes the file, exim doesnt do any database lookups or am I
totally in the dark?

OH! Well damn, look I have a router_home_directory, so... hm, do I
assume exim passes this to dovecot-lda somehow as an environment
variable or something?

I swear I looked at this like 50 times last night...

router_pop:
debug_print= R: dovecot_deliver for $local_p...@$domain
driver = accept
transport = dovecot_deliver
local_parts = mysql; SELECT username FROM SQL_AUTH LEFT JOIN
(SQL_POP) ON (SQL_POP.user_id = SQL_AUTH.user_id) WHERE username =
'${quote_mysql:$local_part}' AND domain = (SELECT IF( STRCMP('',
'${quote_mysql:$domain}'), '${quote_mysql:$domain}', 'olypen.com') )
AND SQL_POP.status != 'disabled'
router_home_directory = ${lookup mysql {SELECT SQL_POP.maildir
FROM SQL_AUTH LEFT JOIN (SQL_POP) ON (SQL_POP.user_id =
SQL_AUTH.user_id) WHERE username = '${quote_mysql:$local_part}' AND
domain = '${quote_mysql:$domain}' LIMIT 1}}
user = 8
group = 8


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
 Or is it possible that Exim looks up mail field as a home directory from the 
 database? I think this error happens before dovecot-lda is even run (it's 
 chdiring before running it).

 But I thought exim just pipes the mail to dovecot-lda and then
 dovecot-lda looks up the user info, home and mail location and
 actually writes the file, exim doesnt do any database lookups or am I
 totally in the dark?

 OH! Well damn, look I have a router_home_directory, so... hm, do I
 assume exim passes this to dovecot-lda somehow as an environment
 variable or something?

 I swear I looked at this like 50 times last night...

 router_pop:
    debug_print= R: dovecot_deliver for $local_p...@$domain
    driver = accept
    transport = dovecot_deliver
    local_parts = mysql; SELECT username FROM SQL_AUTH LEFT JOIN
 (SQL_POP) ON (SQL_POP.user_id = SQL_AUTH.user_id) WHERE username =
 '${quote_mysql:$local_part}' AND domain = (SELECT IF( STRCMP('',
 '${quote_mysql:$domain}'), '${quote_mysql:$domain}', 'olypen.com') )
 AND SQL_POP.status != 'disabled'
    router_home_directory = ${lookup mysql {SELECT SQL_POP.maildir
 FROM SQL_AUTH LEFT JOIN (SQL_POP) ON (SQL_POP.user_id =
 SQL_AUTH.user_id) WHERE username = '${quote_mysql:$local_part}' AND
 domain = '${quote_mysql:$domain}' LIMIT 1}}
    user = 8
    group = 8

Look its MAGIC! Removed the route_home_directory line and BAM! I have
my mail! Dood you rock! I seriously need to buy one of those dinner
bells to ring at work for stuff like this that has been a 5 hour
struggle =P


Re: [Dovecot] Arghh, dovecot-2 and lda

2010-07-18 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Brandon Lamb brandonl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or is it possible that Exim looks up mail field as a home directory from 
 the database? I think this error happens before dovecot-lda is even run 
 (it's chdiring before running it).

 But I thought exim just pipes the mail to dovecot-lda and then
 dovecot-lda looks up the user info, home and mail location and
 actually writes the file, exim doesnt do any database lookups or am I
 totally in the dark?

 OH! Well damn, look I have a router_home_directory, so... hm, do I
 assume exim passes this to dovecot-lda somehow as an environment
 variable or something?

 I swear I looked at this like 50 times last night...

 router_pop:
    debug_print= R: dovecot_deliver for $local_p...@$domain
    driver = accept
    transport = dovecot_deliver
    local_parts = mysql; SELECT username FROM SQL_AUTH LEFT JOIN
 (SQL_POP) ON (SQL_POP.user_id = SQL_AUTH.user_id) WHERE username =
 '${quote_mysql:$local_part}' AND domain = (SELECT IF( STRCMP('',
 '${quote_mysql:$domain}'), '${quote_mysql:$domain}', 'olypen.com') )
 AND SQL_POP.status != 'disabled'
    router_home_directory = ${lookup mysql {SELECT SQL_POP.maildir
 FROM SQL_AUTH LEFT JOIN (SQL_POP) ON (SQL_POP.user_id =
 SQL_AUTH.user_id) WHERE username = '${quote_mysql:$local_part}' AND
 domain = '${quote_mysql:$domain}' LIMIT 1}}
    user = 8
    group = 8

 Look its MAGIC! Removed the route_home_directory line and BAM! I have
 my mail! Dood you rock! I seriously need to buy one of those dinner
 bells to ring at work for stuff like this that has been a 5 hour
 struggle =P

You may want to add some hint about this on the wiki, something to the
effect of watching whether your router passes a home directory if you
are expecting the userdb field to be used, etc


[Dovecot] Proxy IMAP/POP/ManageSieve/SMTP in a large cluster enviroment

2010-07-18 Thread Aliet Santiesteban Sifontes
Hi to all in the list, we are trying to do some tests lab for a large scale
mail system having this requirements:
- Scale to maybe 1million users(Only for testing).
- Server side filters.
- User quotas.
- High concurrency.
- High performance and High Availability.

We plan to test this using RHEL5 and maybe RHEL6.

As a storage we are going to use an HP EVA 8400 FC(8 GB/s)

We defined this functional roles.

1- Outgoing SMTP gateway servers.

 - Load balanced with Piranha LVS using Direct Routing.
 - ( n servers)RHEL5/6 using Postfix Latest version Amavisd-new Clamav
Spamassasin maybe some other filters.

2- Incomming SMTP gateway servers.

 - Load balanced with Piranha LVS using Direct Routing.
 - RHEL5/6 using Postfix Latest version Amavisd-new Clamav Spamassasin( n
servers) maybe some other filters.

3- Webmail Cluster farm.

 - Load balanced with Piranha LVS using Direct Routing.
 - ( n servers)RHEL5/6 using RHCS Active/Active. Apache2 PHP5 Horde.

4- Openldap load balanced openldap cluster.
 - Load balanced with Piranha LVS using Direct Routing.
 - ( n servers)RHEL5/6 using Openldap.

5- IMAP/POP/ManageSieve/SMTP Proxy or Director.
 - Load balanced with Piranha LVS using Direct Routing.
 - ( n servers)RHEL5/6 using Dovecot - Postfix(Director or Proxy).

6- Mail backend.
 - ( n servers)RHEL5/6 using Dovecot.

Now for functional role 6 Mail Backend we have some dilemmas.
   - Recommended scalable filesystem to use for such scenario(Clustered or
not).
 -GFS2?? We have very bad experiences with GFS1 and maildir, GFS2
doesn't seems to improve this also. Using  some techniques for session
afinity with a backend server seems to help with the locking problems of GFS
and the cache. Using GFS many IMAP SMTP servers can in parallel write or
read to user mailboxes, if GFS can perform well we prefer this, will have to
proxy o use director for the cache problem.
 - Ext4, Ext3 well tested with many setups but only one backend server
can access one ext4 lun, so we have to proxy a user always to a ip backend
address or VIP in a case of failure cluster software has to move the server
to another node, the cluster service is formed by a IP Address and one or
many Luns wich moves from node to node in a case of failure.

  - Recommended scalable method  for partition divition.
 - Directory Hashing(How it actually works the theory behind this), we
see the wiki but we need to understand the theory to balance the directory
structure.
 - Using some criteria ex Lun1(a-h users), Lun2(i-m users)

 - Proxy or Director is a must for a Clustered Filsystem or for the solution
of a user belonging to one server.
 - In case we use a Proxy with dovecot we know we can use it with
IMAP/POP but are not sure for ManageSieve and more important for SMTP. The
question is, how can we proxy for the same user IMAP/POP/ManageSieve and
SMTP delivery to mailbox at the same time, can the incoming mail gateways
send the email to the proxy servers and dovecot proxy the request for smtp
or lmtp appply the same proxy criteria that uses for the protocols IMAP and
POP and send the email to the correct backend server and this server do the
final delivery?? I mean proxy all the protocols for a user
IMAP/POP/SMTP-LMTP?? Any example...

Right now we have doubts on this stuff, we are really going to appreciate
any help or advice on this...
best regards


Re: [Dovecot] Proxy IMAP/POP/ManageSieve/SMTP in a large cluster enviroment

2010-07-18 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
Hello,

just my comment on you topic: if I'd design such setup, I'd expect, that
sooner or later some additional flexibility is needed, that there will
be same tasks you never thought about in advance. I'm not sure, if in
such case I'd rely on Postfix. Postfix might be fast, but it is by no
means as flexibile as Exim is. Missing performance (of Exim, if this
matters) you can buy using more servers. Missing flexibility you can't
get easily.

Just my two cents - and because you asked ☺
-- 
Heiko


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Re: [Dovecot] Proxy IMAP/POP/ManageSieve/SMTP in a large cluster enviroment

2010-07-18 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
BTW, and I'm not sure, if you still need amavis, as direct scanning
(using clamav or some other scanner) will be faster. Same is for
Spamassassin, as long as you use it as filter and not just as some
evaluator.

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Re: [Dovecot] Unable to get Dovecot LDA/deliver working

2010-07-18 Thread Frank van Amsterdam

I've added some more information. This is the error.

2010-07-18T03:15:55.870734+02:00 h1690529 postfix/pipe[20360]: CC8F2AEC087: 
to=t...@domain.com, relay=dovecot, delay=0.03, delays=0.01/0.01/0/0.01, 
dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure)


I don't have any clue what this warning/error means.

I was 'playing' with /etc/postfix/master.cf.

dovecot   unix  -   n   n   -   -   pipe
 flags=DRhu user=vmail:vmail argv=/usr/lib/dovecot/deliver -f ${sender} -d 
${us...@${nexthop}


I've tried several parameters like -d username, -m mailbox or -d 
${user}.


2010-07-18T03:43:27.569493+02:00 h1690529 postfix/pipe[3723]: 81238AEC087: 
to=t...@domain.com, relay=dovecot, delay=0.04, delays=0.01/0.01/0/0.01, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered via dovecot service)


It looks like it was delivered properly, but it wasn't. I was written to 
/home/vmail/Maildir instead of /home/vmail/test/Maildir. All incoming e-mail 
was delivered to /home/vmail/Maildir if i used deliver -d username -m 
mailbox


My LDAP tree looks like this and it's very simple.

dc=domain,dc=com
+contacts (Thunderbird contacts)
+groups (mainly Posix groups for applications)
+users (real users and mailing lists)

So the DN of the user 'test' is uid=test,ou=users,dc=domain,dc=com

I want e-mail sent to t...@domain.com or for example test.test.t...@domain 
being delivered in the maildir of the user 'test'.


I'm almost sure it has something to do with the deliver parameters. What can 
it be?


I'm planning to build a new server. I've done it before. Everytime I make 
the same mistake again. That's something what I want to prevent.


Thanks again in advance,

Frank

--
From: Daniel Luttermann dan...@dlutt.de
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:55 PM
To: dovecot@dovecot.org
Subject: Re: [Dovecot] Unable to get Dovecot LDA/deliver working


Frank van Amsterdam wrote on 18.07.2010:

I want to setup Dovecot LDA, but I don't understand what I'm doing 
anymore.
I have to note that I'm a Linux beginner. I've been trying now for 
several

months and I'm about to give up. Till so far I'm having no result. :-(


My current setup is done as described at http://www.linuxmail.info. We 
use
Postfix 2.3.3 (with Postgrey, Spamassassin and ClamAV), Dovecot 1.2.11 
and
OpenLDAP 2.4.1 on CentOS 5.5. All incoming e-mail are delivered by 
Postfix

in the users' maildir. We use this as a base for SOGo, our groupware
solution and it runs smoothly.


I have to setup a new mailserver, because we're standardising on Debian. 
My

employer wants to have new functions like out-of-office-replies and
forwarding. I want to make use of sieve. Unfortunately I don't know 
anyone

who can help me.


If you would like to use Sieve you should use the Dovecot LDA instead
of the Postfix LDA virtual. You can also use the ManageSieve service
so that users can create their own Sieve scripts. Some clients
supports it like Horde Ingo, Thunderbird with plugin...

When you use Debian (Lenny) you should use Dovecot from backports
(current: 1.2.11) instead of the stable repository.

The Postfix version that comes with Debian Lenny (2.5.5) is OK so it's
not needed to update.

I think the easiest way to implement the Dovecot LDA is to use
virtual_transport or transport_maps if you use virtual users or
within mailbox_command for system users - but this depends on your
environment/configuration.

My problem is that I don't understand how the delivery process is 
working.

I've read much documentation from Postfix and Dovecot, but I find it too
difficult to understand.


Hmm, there's not much to say about that... If you use virtual_tranport
or transport_maps then Postfix sends the mail to the Dovecot LDA. The
Dovecot LDA handles further delivery of the mail.


What do I understand? I know that I have to make changes in /etc/dovecot,
/etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/postfix/master.cf as described at
http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA.


For Postfix all relevant informations are here:
http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix


--
Daniel




Re: [Dovecot] Unable to get Dovecot LDA/deliver working

2010-07-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 19.7.2010, at 0.42, Frank van Amsterdam wrote:

 2010-07-18T03:15:55.870734+02:00 h1690529 postfix/pipe[20360]: CC8F2AEC087: 
 to=t...@domain.com, relay=dovecot, delay=0.03, delays=0.01/0.01/0/0.01, 
 dsn=4.3.0, status=deferred (temporary failure)
 
 I don't have any clue what this warning/error means.

It means you haven't found the real error message. 
http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA#logging




Re: [Dovecot] Haha wow, thats freakin cool... mdbox

2010-07-18 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Daniel Luttermann put forth on 7/18/2010 1:05 PM:
 Stan Hoeppner wrote on 18.07.2010:
 
 What happens when these indexes become corrupted, get accidentally deleted, 
 or
 have the permissions accidentally changed in a way that they become 
 unreadable
 by Dovecot?  Does Dovecot still report the messages as being in the correct
 folder?
 
 during my tests I've copied and deleted some mails, copied whole
 mdbox-files etc. and after some time the IMAP session was dropped by
 Dovecot. In the logfile I've found this:
 
 Jul 18 17:36:18 tux dovecot: imap(testu...@dlutt.de): Error: Corrupted 
 transaction log file 
 /home/vmail/dlutt.de/testuser/mdbox/mailboxes/Papierkorb/dbox-Mails/dovecot.index.log
  seq 2: file size shrank (sync_offset=14724)
 Jul 18 17:36:18 tux dovecot: imap(testu...@dlutt.de): Error: Index 
 /home/vmail/dlutt.de/testuser/mdbox/mailboxes/Papierkorb/dbox-Mails/dovecot.index:
  Lost log for seq=2 offset=14724
 Jul 18 17:36:18 tux dovecot: imap(testu...@dlutt.de): Warning: fscking index 
 file 
 /home/vmail/dlutt.de/testuser/mdbox/mailboxes/Papierkorb/dbox-Mails/dovecot.index
 Jul 18 17:36:18 tux dovecot: imap(testu...@dlutt.de): Warning: mdbox 
 /home/vmail/dlutt.de/testuser/mdbox/storage: rebuilding indexes
 Jul 18 17:36:18 tux dovecot: imap(testu...@dlutt.de): Error: 
 /home/vmail/dlutt.de/testuser/mdbox/mailboxes/INBOX/dbox-Mails/dovecot.index 
 reset, view is now inconsistent
 Jul 18 17:36:18 tux dovecot: imap(testu...@dlutt.de): Disconnected: IMAP 
 session state is inconsistent, please relogin. bytes=119/850
 
 After a relogin all mails were available and readable without manually
 fixing the index. Don't know if this always successful but it seems
 that Dovecot can rebuild the index without problems.

That's not the scenario I described.  You manipulated mail files which Dovecot
had already indexed, and Dovecot rebuilt the indexes when I saw the file
locations had changed.  The key here is that you manually, physically, moved
files around to different directories.  All Dovecot must do at that point is
look at where those files now reside, and rebuild the index according to their
current location.

What I was asking is what happens when you manually delete the index file out
from underneath Dovecot?  If files never got moved, but the index file says
they're in dir X when they physically reside in dir Y, how does Dovecot
recover and correctly recreate the index?  At this point Dovecot has no
information about the files having been moved because the index file which
contains this Y -- X mapping information is now gone, deleted.

-- 
Stan