Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Foley 
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 03:44:05 +0200 Achim Gottinger  wrote:

Am 17.07.2016 um 02:36 schrieb Mark Foley:
> Not quite there yet. The folders show up, but I cannot see the mail inside 
> the folders unless
> (in the Thunderbird client) I uncheck the setting "Show only subscribed 
> folders". Still, the
> top-level folder is shown as grayed-out/italics as well as the the sub-folder 
> INBOX. All other
> sub-folder at the same level as INBOX are not grayed-out, nor are folders 
> subordinate to INBOX:
>
> u...@mydom.org <-- topmost "real" account folder
>+Inbox
>Drafts
>Templates
>send Items
>Junk E-mail
>Deleted Items
>+bpatterson   <-- added Maildir folders from former user, grayed-out, 
> italics
>  +INBOX  <-- grayed out, italic
>Payabled  <-- not grayed
>Health Care  <-- not grayed
>:
>:
>  Sent   <-- not grayed
>  Sent Items <-- not grayed
>  Templates  <-- not grayed
>  Trash  <-- not grayed
>
> Mozilla has a reference to this phenomenon 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Grey_italic_folders, but
> this seems to have to do with GMAIL accounts. Mine is a local IMAP server and 
> the link has no
> apparent remedy.
>
> Furthermore, if I attempt to delete e.g. "Trash" I get an error, presumably 
> from Dovecot: "The
> current command did not succeed. The mail server for account u...@mydom.org 
> responded:
> [ALREADYEXISTS] Target mailbox already exists." Seem like an odd error when 
> trying to delete.
>
> My theory is that if I can designated these folders as 'subcribed' everything 
> would work
> normally. I don't know if that's true. I've tried added these folders to the 
> 'subscriptions'
> file in the user's Maildir folder, an excerpt of which:
>
> INBOX.Directed Brokerage
> INBOX.Directed Brokerage.Abel Noser
> INBOX.Investments-Active.Kayne
> INBOX.Pending - Open Projects
> Deleted Items.Oath
> INBOX.Board Info.New Trustee-Oath of Office
> INBOX.Rule Filing-Rule Changes
> bpatterson.INBOX.2011 Investment Confirmation Responses
> bpatterson.INBOX.2011 and 2012 KCR Audit
> bpatterson.INBOX.2012 Investment Confirmation Responses
> bpatterson.INBOX.2013 Health Care Changes - Information
> bpatterson.INBOX.2013 Investment Confirmation Responses
>
> where the 1st 7 listed are part of the user's existing list and the next ones 
> are what I added
> for the former user's mail folders. This did not work.
>
> Ideas?
>
> --Mark
Hi Mark,

Try to subscribe in thundebird via your accounts right click context menu.
The greyed out folders may not contain mails (missing .cur etc. 
suubfolders).
Sometimes it is neccessary to clean the ImapMail folder in the 
thunderbird user profile (as an last resort).

achim~

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> Am 17.07.2016 um 02:36 schrieb Mark Foley:
> > Not quite there yet. The folders show up, but I cannot see the mail inside 
> > the folders unless
> > (in the Thunderbird client) I uncheck the setting "Show only subscribed 
> > folders". Still, the
> > top-level folder is shown as grayed-out/italics as well as the the 
> > sub-folder INBOX. All other
> > sub-folder at the same

Re: an e-mail client for dovecot ?

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Foley 
Hmmm, one thing to perhaps try first is upgrading your software. You mentioned 
that your
dovecot is version 1.2.17. I'm running 2.2.15 (which is also older. Current 
version is 2.2.25).
I know there were major changes between version 1.x and 2.x.

Your Ubuntu is 14.04 which is 2 released old, now at 16.04 (I'm running 15.10). 
I do have 16.04
booting with x86, but I haven't yet installed it.

You didn't mention your Thunderbird version, but I'm guessing they are 
similarly dated. My
Ubuntu Tbird is 38.8.0 and my Win7 is 45.2.0.

It could be your older versions of things don't support what you want.

My dovecot server is Slackware64 14.1. One of the users has over 1400 mail 
folders and 7.2G of
IMAP space. She has had no problems with Thunderbird.

All of our WIN7 workstations are x64, so perhaps there are issues with x86 
version of
dovecot/Thunderbird.

--Mark

-Original Message-
> Subject: Re: an e-mail client for dovecot ?
> To: dovecot@dovecot.org
> From: Kenneth Porter 
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 16:52:08 -0700

> On 7/16/2016 10:22 AM, Mark Foley wrote:
> > I concur with Charles Marcus' query: can you elaborate on how Thunderbird 
> > is failing for you?
>
> I run Thunderbird and Mulberry side-by-side, as there are features in 
> Mulberry I don't want to give up, even though it's old and buggy. I've 
> noticed that Mulberry finds folders in my huge hierarchy (100's of 
> folders) that Tbird misses. Notably my SpamAssassin folder, and it's 
> consistent across several accounts I monitor. Both programs are set to 
> scan all IMAP folders. It's not just because the SA folder is flagged as 
> an additional Junk folder. I've got other folders that Tbird misses. 
> Most receive automated server mail from Linux services (such as 
> logwatch). I haven't been able to find a pattern.
>

Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Achim Gottinger 



Am 17.07.2016 um 02:36 schrieb Mark Foley:

Not quite there yet. The folders show up, but I cannot see the mail inside the 
folders unless
(in the Thunderbird client) I uncheck the setting "Show only subscribed 
folders". Still, the
top-level folder is shown as grayed-out/italics as well as the the sub-folder 
INBOX. All other
sub-folder at the same level as INBOX are not grayed-out, nor are folders 
subordinate to INBOX:

u...@mydom.org <-- topmost "real" account folder
   +Inbox
   Drafts
   Templates
   send Items
   Junk E-mail
   Deleted Items
   +bpatterson   <-- added Maildir folders from former user, grayed-out, italics
 +INBOX  <-- grayed out, italic
   Payabled  <-- not grayed
   Health Care  <-- not grayed
   :
   :
 Sent   <-- not grayed
 Sent Items <-- not grayed
 Templates  <-- not grayed
 Trash  <-- not grayed

Mozilla has a reference to this phenomenon 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Grey_italic_folders, but
this seems to have to do with GMAIL accounts. Mine is a local IMAP server and 
the link has no
apparent remedy.

Furthermore, if I attempt to delete e.g. "Trash" I get an error, presumably from 
Dovecot: "The
current command did not succeed. The mail server for account u...@mydom.org 
responded:
[ALREADYEXISTS] Target mailbox already exists." Seem like an odd error when 
trying to delete.

My theory is that if I can designated these folders as 'subcribed' everything 
would work
normally. I don't know if that's true. I've tried added these folders to the 
'subscriptions'
file in the user's Maildir folder, an excerpt of which:

INBOX.Directed Brokerage
INBOX.Directed Brokerage.Abel Noser
INBOX.Investments-Active.Kayne
INBOX.Pending - Open Projects
Deleted Items.Oath
INBOX.Board Info.New Trustee-Oath of Office
INBOX.Rule Filing-Rule Changes
bpatterson.INBOX.2011 Investment Confirmation Responses
bpatterson.INBOX.2011 and 2012 KCR Audit
bpatterson.INBOX.2012 Investment Confirmation Responses
bpatterson.INBOX.2013 Health Care Changes - Information
bpatterson.INBOX.2013 Investment Confirmation Responses

where the 1st 7 listed are part of the user's existing list and the next ones 
are what I added
for the former user's mail folders. This did not work.

Ideas?

--Mark

Hi Mark,

Try to subscribe in thundebird via your accounts right click context menu.
The greyed out folders may not contain mails (missing .cur etc. 
suubfolders).
Sometimes it is neccessary to clean the ImapMail folder in the 
thunderbird user profile (as an last resort).


achim~

Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Foley 
Not quite there yet. The folders show up, but I cannot see the mail inside the 
folders unless
(in the Thunderbird client) I uncheck the setting "Show only subscribed 
folders". Still, the
top-level folder is shown as grayed-out/italics as well as the the sub-folder 
INBOX. All other
sub-folder at the same level as INBOX are not grayed-out, nor are folders 
subordinate to INBOX:

u...@mydom.org <-- topmost "real" account folder
  +Inbox
  Drafts
  Templates
  send Items
  Junk E-mail
  Deleted Items
  +bpatterson   <-- added Maildir folders from former user, grayed-out, italics
+INBOX  <-- grayed out, italic
  Payabled  <-- not grayed
  Health Care  <-- not grayed
  :
  :
Sent   <-- not grayed
Sent Items <-- not grayed
Templates  <-- not grayed  
Trash  <-- not grayed

Mozilla has a reference to this phenomenon 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Grey_italic_folders, but
this seems to have to do with GMAIL accounts. Mine is a local IMAP server and 
the link has no
apparent remedy.

Furthermore, if I attempt to delete e.g. "Trash" I get an error, presumably 
from Dovecot: "The
current command did not succeed. The mail server for account u...@mydom.org 
responded:
[ALREADYEXISTS] Target mailbox already exists." Seem like an odd error when 
trying to delete.

My theory is that if I can designated these folders as 'subcribed' everything 
would work
normally. I don't know if that's true. I've tried added these folders to the 
'subscriptions'
file in the user's Maildir folder, an excerpt of which:

INBOX.Directed Brokerage
INBOX.Directed Brokerage.Abel Noser
INBOX.Investments-Active.Kayne
INBOX.Pending - Open Projects
Deleted Items.Oath
INBOX.Board Info.New Trustee-Oath of Office
INBOX.Rule Filing-Rule Changes
bpatterson.INBOX.2011 Investment Confirmation Responses
bpatterson.INBOX.2011 and 2012 KCR Audit
bpatterson.INBOX.2012 Investment Confirmation Responses
bpatterson.INBOX.2013 Health Care Changes - Information
bpatterson.INBOX.2013 Investment Confirmation Responses

where the 1st 7 listed are part of the user's existing list and the next ones 
are what I added
for the former user's mail folders. This did not work.

Ideas?

--Mark

-Original Message-
From: Mark Foley 
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 15:05:33 -0400
Organization: Ohio Highway Patrol Retirement System
To: dovecot@dovecot.org
Subject: Re: Moving Maildir folders

Hey!! It is now showing the former users' folders at the top level of the 
current user.  Great!
Perhaps dovecot just needed time to "index" the new messages? Anyway, Luigi's 
suggestion on
moving and renaming the folders apparently worked. 

Thanks --Mark

-Original Message-
> Subject: Re: Moving Maildir folders
> From: Frank-Ulrich Sommer 
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:41:10 +0200
> To: dovecot@dovecot.org

> How did you verify that dovecot doesn't show these folders? Couldn't this be 
> a client problem? In Thunderbird e.g. it might be necessary to update the 
> list of displayed folders.
>
> Am 16. Juli 2016 19:07:39 MESZ, schrieb Mark Foley :
> >On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:53:27 +0200 Luigi Rosa 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Mark Foley wrote on 16/07/2016 07:43:
> >> > Our office had a user leave.  Another user is taking over her
> >duties and needs reference to the
> >> > departing user's email.  I've copied that entire departed user's
> >Maildir structure to the current
> >> > user:
> >> >
> >> > mv olduser/Maildir/.* curuser/Maildir/.olduser
> >> >
> >> > I did change permission and ownership on curuser/Maildir/.olduser
> >to be the target user. I did
> >> > not bring over the olduser/Maildir/dovecot* files (indexes,
> >subscriptions, etc.) as I thought
> >> > that would be bad.
> >>
> >> Maildir has no nested folders.
> >>
> >> If you want a subtree structure in maildir you must create each
> >folder at the 
> >> first level
> >>
> >> in the new user you must have something like:
> >>
> >> .olduser.INBOX
> >> .olduser.Sent
> >> .olduser.Trash
> >> .olduser.Drafts
> >> .olduser.whatever
> >>
> >> Each directory with tmp, newm cur subdirs only (ad dovecot files, of
> >course)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >>
> >> Ciao,
> >> luigi
> >>
> >> /
> >> +--[Luigi Rosa]--
> >> \
> >>
> >> Understanding is a three-edged sword.
> >>  --Kosh, "Deathwalker"
> >
> >OK, I believe I've done as you suggested, but still nothing showing on
> >the target users mail
> >client. Here's what part of the Maildir looks like with the 1st set of
> >folders belonging to the
> >target user and those beginning with .bpatterson from the old user.
> >Does this look right as
> >you've advised? Perhaps I need to do something else?
> >
> >.INBOX.Travel/
> >.INBOX.UPS/
> >.INBOX.US\ Bank/
> >.INBOX.United\ Health\ Care-Employee/
> >.INBOX.VRC/
> >.INBOX.Website/
> >.INBOX.Website.Mouse\ Pad\ Insert/
> >.INBOX.iLink/
> >.Junk\ E-mail/
> >.Sent\ Items/
> >.Templates/
> >.bpatterson.Deleted\

Re: an e-mail client for dovecot ?

2016-07-16 Thread Kenneth Porter 

On 7/16/2016 10:22 AM, Mark Foley wrote:

I concur with Charles Marcus' query: can you elaborate on how Thunderbird is 
failing for you?


I run Thunderbird and Mulberry side-by-side, as there are features in 
Mulberry I don't want to give up, even though it's old and buggy. I've 
noticed that Mulberry finds folders in my huge hierarchy (100's of 
folders) that Tbird misses. Notably my SpamAssassin folder, and it's 
consistent across several accounts I monitor. Both programs are set to 
scan all IMAP folders. It's not just because the SA folder is flagged as 
an additional Junk folder. I've got other folders that Tbird misses. 
Most receive automated server mail from Linux services (such as 
logwatch). I haven't been able to find a pattern.

Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Foley 
Hey!! It is now showing the former users' folders at the top level of the 
current user.  Great!
Perhaps dovecot just needed time to "index" the new messages? Anyway, Luigi's 
suggestion on
moving and renaming the folders apparently worked. 

Thanks --Mark

-Original Message-
> Subject: Re: Moving Maildir folders
> From: Frank-Ulrich Sommer 
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:41:10 +0200
> To: dovecot@dovecot.org

> How did you verify that dovecot doesn't show these folders? Couldn't this be 
> a client problem? In Thunderbird e.g. it might be necessary to update the 
> list of displayed folders.
>
> Am 16. Juli 2016 19:07:39 MESZ, schrieb Mark Foley :
> >On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:53:27 +0200 Luigi Rosa 
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> Mark Foley wrote on 16/07/2016 07:43:
> >> > Our office had a user leave.  Another user is taking over her
> >duties and needs reference to the
> >> > departing user's email.  I've copied that entire departed user's
> >Maildir structure to the current
> >> > user:
> >> >
> >> > mv olduser/Maildir/.* curuser/Maildir/.olduser
> >> >
> >> > I did change permission and ownership on curuser/Maildir/.olduser
> >to be the target user. I did
> >> > not bring over the olduser/Maildir/dovecot* files (indexes,
> >subscriptions, etc.) as I thought
> >> > that would be bad.
> >>
> >> Maildir has no nested folders.
> >>
> >> If you want a subtree structure in maildir you must create each
> >folder at the 
> >> first level
> >>
> >> in the new user you must have something like:
> >>
> >> .olduser.INBOX
> >> .olduser.Sent
> >> .olduser.Trash
> >> .olduser.Drafts
> >> .olduser.whatever
> >>
> >> Each directory with tmp, newm cur subdirs only (ad dovecot files, of
> >course)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >>
> >> Ciao,
> >> luigi
> >>
> >> /
> >> +--[Luigi Rosa]--
> >> \
> >>
> >> Understanding is a three-edged sword.
> >>  --Kosh, "Deathwalker"
> >
> >OK, I believe I've done as you suggested, but still nothing showing on
> >the target users mail
> >client. Here's what part of the Maildir looks like with the 1st set of
> >folders belonging to the
> >target user and those beginning with .bpatterson from the old user.
> >Does this look right as
> >you've advised? Perhaps I need to do something else?
> >
> >.INBOX.Travel/
> >.INBOX.UPS/
> >.INBOX.US\ Bank/
> >.INBOX.United\ Health\ Care-Employee/
> >.INBOX.VRC/
> >.INBOX.Website/
> >.INBOX.Website.Mouse\ Pad\ Insert/
> >.INBOX.iLink/
> >.Junk\ E-mail/
> >.Sent\ Items/
> >.Templates/
> >.bpatterson.Deleted\ Items/
> >.bpatterson.Drafts/
> >.bpatterson.INBOX.2011\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
> >.bpatterson.INBOX.2011\ and\ 2012\ KCR\ Audit/
> >.bpatterson.INBOX.2012\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
> >.bpatterson.INBOX.2013\ Health\ Care\ Changes\ -\ Information/
> >.bpatterson.INBOX.2013\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
> >
> >At the top level, the target user has (in email client):
> >
> >Inbox
> >Drafts
> >Templates
> >Sent Items
> >Junk E-mail
> >Deleted Items
> >
> >I'm expecting to see "bpatterson" appear in that list.
> >
> >Thanks --Mark
>
> -- 
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
>

Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Frank-Ulrich Sommer 
How did you verify that dovecot doesn't show these folders? Couldn't this be a 
client problem? In Thunderbird e.g. it might be necessary to update the list of 
displayed folders.

Am 16. Juli 2016 19:07:39 MESZ, schrieb Mark Foley :
>On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:53:27 +0200 Luigi Rosa 
>wrote:
>>
>> Mark Foley wrote on 16/07/2016 07:43:
>> > Our office had a user leave.  Another user is taking over her
>duties and needs reference to the
>> > departing user's email.  I've copied that entire departed user's
>Maildir structure to the current
>> > user:
>> >
>> > mv olduser/Maildir/.* curuser/Maildir/.olduser
>> >
>> > I did change permission and ownership on curuser/Maildir/.olduser
>to be the target user. I did
>> > not bring over the olduser/Maildir/dovecot* files (indexes,
>subscriptions, etc.) as I thought
>> > that would be bad.
>>
>> Maildir has no nested folders.
>>
>> If you want a subtree structure in maildir you must create each
>folder at the 
>> first level
>>
>> in the new user you must have something like:
>>
>> .olduser.INBOX
>> .olduser.Sent
>> .olduser.Trash
>> .olduser.Drafts
>> .olduser.whatever
>>
>> Each directory with tmp, newm cur subdirs only (ad dovecot files, of
>course)
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>>
>> Ciao,
>> luigi
>>
>> /
>> +--[Luigi Rosa]--
>> \
>>
>> Understanding is a three-edged sword.
>>  --Kosh, "Deathwalker"
>
>OK, I believe I've done as you suggested, but still nothing showing on
>the target users mail
>client. Here's what part of the Maildir looks like with the 1st set of
>folders belonging to the
>target user and those beginning with .bpatterson from the old user.
>Does this look right as
>you've advised? Perhaps I need to do something else?
>
>.INBOX.Travel/
>.INBOX.UPS/
>.INBOX.US\ Bank/
>.INBOX.United\ Health\ Care-Employee/
>.INBOX.VRC/
>.INBOX.Website/
>.INBOX.Website.Mouse\ Pad\ Insert/
>.INBOX.iLink/
>.Junk\ E-mail/
>.Sent\ Items/
>.Templates/
>.bpatterson.Deleted\ Items/
>.bpatterson.Drafts/
>.bpatterson.INBOX.2011\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
>.bpatterson.INBOX.2011\ and\ 2012\ KCR\ Audit/
>.bpatterson.INBOX.2012\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
>.bpatterson.INBOX.2013\ Health\ Care\ Changes\ -\ Information/
>.bpatterson.INBOX.2013\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
>
>At the top level, the target user has (in email client):
>
>Inbox
>Drafts
>Templates
>Sent Items
>Junk E-mail
>Deleted Items
>
>I'm expecting to see "bpatterson" appear in that list.
>
>Thanks --Mark

-- 
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.

Re: an e-mail client for dovecot ?

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Foley 
Wow! That's interesting.  Our office of 10+ Windows 7 *and* Ubuntu workstations 
have been
moving from Outlook to Thunderbird over the past year. Our users find it WAY 
BETTER than
Outlook. Have you actually tried Outlook 2013 and later? The suckiness of 2013 
was what drove
us to look elsewere in the first place. We tried a number of clients including 
Evolution and
emClient and Tbird proved the best in my testing.

Thunderbird runs on both Windows and Ubuntu, can do AD authentication and 
basically has all the
features of Outlook including color categories which our director could not 
live without; and
can be configured to have a very similar look-and-feel as Outlook.  In over a 
year of running
Thunderbird (currently at 38.8.0 Ubuntu, 45.2.0 Window) it has performed 
flawlessly. 

I concur with Charles Marcus' query: can you elaborate on how Thunderbird is 
failing for you?

--Mark

-Original Message-
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:02:33 + (UTC)
> From: Spyros Tsiolis 
> To: Dovecot 
> Subject: an e-mail client for dovecot ?
>
> Hello all,
>
> For some years now, I've been using Thunderbird for dovecot.
> I am not very satisfied with t/b so I thought of using m/s outlook 
> but then I thought that I want to distance my clients from office
> products.
>
> I have a newly created dovecot installation on a very small site.
> Three nodes, all x86 Windows 7 professional with an ubuntu v14.04
> server (x86 again) running dovecot 1.2.17.
>
> The clients there use dovecot as an imap server, so they have a 
> real-world e-mail account each and whatever they want to keep , they
> store by gradding-and-dropping to the imap (local / archive) account.
>
> Since I have quite some experiece with thunderbird, I know most of
> its shortcomings; So I thought if there's an alternative (better?)
> imap mail client for x86 windows 7 systems than t/b.
>
> Even better if there's an alternative client that is also supporeted under
> linux .
>
> Any ideas are welcome,
>
> TIA,
>
> s.t.
>

Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Foley 
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:53:27 +0200 Luigi Rosa  wrote:
>
> Mark Foley wrote on 16/07/2016 07:43:
> > Our office had a user leave.  Another user is taking over her duties and 
> > needs reference to the
> > departing user's email.  I've copied that entire departed user's Maildir 
> > structure to the current
> > user:
> >
> > mv olduser/Maildir/.* curuser/Maildir/.olduser
> >
> > I did change permission and ownership on curuser/Maildir/.olduser to be the 
> > target user. I did
> > not bring over the olduser/Maildir/dovecot* files (indexes, subscriptions, 
> > etc.) as I thought
> > that would be bad.
>
> Maildir has no nested folders.
>
> If you want a subtree structure in maildir you must create each folder at the 
> first level
>
> in the new user you must have something like:
>
> .olduser.INBOX
> .olduser.Sent
> .olduser.Trash
> .olduser.Drafts
> .olduser.whatever
>
> Each directory with tmp, newm cur subdirs only (ad dovecot files, of course)
>
>
>
> -- 
>
>
> Ciao,
> luigi
>
> /
> +--[Luigi Rosa]--
> \
>
> Understanding is a three-edged sword.
>  --Kosh, "Deathwalker"

OK, I believe I've done as you suggested, but still nothing showing on the 
target users mail
client. Here's what part of the Maildir looks like with the 1st set of folders 
belonging to the
target user and those beginning with .bpatterson from the old user. Does this 
look right as
you've advised? Perhaps I need to do something else?

.INBOX.Travel/
.INBOX.UPS/
.INBOX.US\ Bank/
.INBOX.United\ Health\ Care-Employee/
.INBOX.VRC/
.INBOX.Website/
.INBOX.Website.Mouse\ Pad\ Insert/
.INBOX.iLink/
.Junk\ E-mail/
.Sent\ Items/
.Templates/
.bpatterson.Deleted\ Items/
.bpatterson.Drafts/
.bpatterson.INBOX.2011\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
.bpatterson.INBOX.2011\ and\ 2012\ KCR\ Audit/
.bpatterson.INBOX.2012\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/
.bpatterson.INBOX.2013\ Health\ Care\ Changes\ -\ Information/
.bpatterson.INBOX.2013\ Investment\ Confirmation\ Responses/

At the top level, the target user has (in email client):

Inbox
Drafts
Templates
Sent Items
Junk E-mail
Deleted Items

I'm expecting to see "bpatterson" appear in that list.

Thanks --Mark

Re: an e-mail client for dovecot ?

2016-07-16 Thread Charles Marcus 


On July 16, 2016 4:02:33 AM EDT, Spyros Tsiolis  wrote:
>Since I have quite some experiece with thunderbird, I know most of
>its shortcomings

Care to elaborate? Thunderbird is far from perfect, but is by far the best IMAP 
client available.

Most times you can work around supposed short comings (if what you think are 
short comings actually are, often they are not)... 
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: an e-mail client for dovecot ?

2016-07-16 Thread Dave Stevens 
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:02:33 + (UTC)
Spyros Tsiolis  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> For some years now, I've been using Thunderbird for dovecot.
> I am not very satisfied with t/b so I thought of using m/s outlook 
> but then I thought that I want to distance my clients from office
> products.
> 
> I have a newly created dovecot installation on a very small site.
> Three nodes, all x86 Windows 7 professional with an ubuntu v14.04
> server (x86 again) running dovecot 1.2.17.
> 
> The clients there use dovecot as an imap server, so they have a 
> real-world e-mail account each and whatever they want to keep , they
> store by gradding-and-dropping to the imap (local / archive) account.
> 
> Since I have quite some experiece with thunderbird, I know most of
> its shortcomings; So I thought if there's an alternative (better?)
> imap mail client for x86 windows 7 systems than t/b.
> 
> Even better if there's an alternative client that is also supporeted
> under linux .
> 
> Any ideas are welcome,
> 
> TIA,
> 
> s.t.

I use Claws and like it a lot. Has plugins for extensions, very fast to
work with.

Dave


-- 
Reporter to Mahatma Ghandi after his tour of east London
"What do you think of western civilization, Mr. Ghandi?"
Ghandi - "I think it would be an excellent idea!"

an e-mail client for dovecot ?

2016-07-16 Thread Spyros Tsiolis 
Hello all,

For some years now, I've been using Thunderbird for dovecot.
I am not very satisfied with t/b so I thought of using m/s outlook 
but then I thought that I want to distance my clients from office
products.

I have a newly created dovecot installation on a very small site.
Three nodes, all x86 Windows 7 professional with an ubuntu v14.04
server (x86 again) running dovecot 1.2.17.

The clients there use dovecot as an imap server, so they have a 
real-world e-mail account each and whatever they want to keep , they
store by gradding-and-dropping to the imap (local / archive) account.

Since I have quite some experiece with thunderbird, I know most of
its shortcomings; So I thought if there's an alternative (better?)
imap mail client for x86 windows 7 systems than t/b.

Even better if there's an alternative client that is also supporeted under
linux .

Any ideas are welcome,

TIA,

s.t.

Re: Moving Maildir folders

2016-07-16 Thread Luigi Rosa 

Mark Foley wrote on 16/07/2016 07:43:

Our office had a user leave.  Another user is taking over her duties and needs 
reference to the
departing user's email.  I've copied that entire departed user's Maildir 
structure to the current
user:

mv olduser/Maildir/.* curuser/Maildir/.olduser

I did change permission and ownership on curuser/Maildir/.olduser to be the 
target user. I did
not bring over the olduser/Maildir/dovecot* files (indexes, subscriptions, 
etc.) as I thought
that would be bad.


Maildir has no nested folders.

If you want a subtree structure in maildir you must create each folder at the 
first level


in the new user you must have something like:

.olduser.INBOX
.olduser.Sent
.olduser.Trash
.olduser.Drafts
.olduser.whatever

Each directory with tmp, newm cur subdirs only (ad dovecot files, of course)



--


Ciao,
luigi

/
+--[Luigi Rosa]--
\

Understanding is a three-edged sword.
--Kosh, "Deathwalker"