Re: ot: how to t/s TBird problems ?

2022-10-23 Thread Jan Hugo Prins
Even more easy, start by examining the mail headers to see where the mail was 
blocked.

Jhp

On October 23, 2022 4:05:51 PM GMT+02:00, Aki Tuomi 
 wrote:
>Hi!
>
>This is very unlikely to be a dovecot issue itself. There is nothing inside 
>dovecot that would horde your emails for 2 hours before "delivering" them.
>
>You should 
>
> - Enable mail_log plugin. This will tell you when mails are delivered, when 
> deleted etc, see 
> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/plugins/mail_event_logging
> - Examine your logs
> - Check `doveadm fetch 'date.received date.sent date.saved' mailbox INBOX 
> '*'` ( this will print you the last email in INBOX, note the quotes)
>
>Aki
>
>> On 23/10/2022 16:49 EEST Chris Wensink  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Over the last several months we have seen what seems like large delays in 
>> email delivery as well,  we get emails at 11AM that are time stamped at 
>> 9:10.  I thought it was a networking issue, but I can’t be sure.  I wish I 
>> knew more about coding, to look under the hood to examine things further.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:17 AM, Voytek Eymont  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >> On Sat, October 22, 2022 11:29 am, Joseph Tam wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I haven't seen anyone else replying, but there doesn't seem anything
>> >> anomalous with the output.  The session commands-repliesd is is more or
>> >> less what I expect, although to make sense of this, you'll have to splice
>> >> the input and output files together using timestamps to see the sequential
>> >> flow of data.
>> > ...
>> >> Typically, if some resource limit is hit, one side or the other will
>> >> create a log or notification.  Your INBOX is large, but not outrageous. 
>> >> You
>> >> can test it directly by creating smaller subsets of the INBOX messages and
>> >> see if the problem goes away.
>> > 
>> > Joseph,
>> > 
>> > thank you very much for the follow up!
>> > you won't believe it, literally minutes before your email I got this email
>> > from the 'problem user' (below)
>> > 
>> > thank you to all who responded!
>> > 
>> > - I guess if TB debug log was enabled (as was suggested)- maybe the issue
>> > would become apparent from TB debug log ?
>> > 
>> > - I guess i should encourage POP users to switch to IMAP anyhow ?
>> > 
>> > got this from problem user:
>> > ---
>> > Mozilla Thunderbird released an update which I just installed.
>> > 
>> > Problem solved.
>> > 
>> > I guess Tbird had a problem that the new release addressed.
>> > 
>> > I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
>> > 
>> > I'm mystified why my issue was only with one account. Perhaps it was
>> > something to do with the size of the database.
>> > 
>> > ---
>> > yesterday it was
>> > ---
>> > I'm still experiencing a 40 second delay to retrieve emails for
>> > xxx
>> > 
>> > I have changed the pop port to 110 for the server but that did not
>> > work at all.
>> > 
>> > I have reinstalled my email client TBird but no change, anyway all the
>> > other accounts on TBird are working ok but they are MAPI not POP.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Voytek
>> >

-- 
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Re: ot: how to t/s TBird problems ?

2022-10-23 Thread Aki Tuomi
Hi!

This is very unlikely to be a dovecot issue itself. There is nothing inside 
dovecot that would horde your emails for 2 hours before "delivering" them.

You should 

 - Enable mail_log plugin. This will tell you when mails are delivered, when 
deleted etc, see 
https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/plugins/mail_event_logging/
 - Examine your logs
 - Check `doveadm fetch 'date.received date.sent date.saved' mailbox INBOX '*'` 
( this will print you the last email in INBOX, note the quotes)

Aki

> On 23/10/2022 16:49 EEST Chris Wensink  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Over the last several months we have seen what seems like large delays in 
> email delivery as well,  we get emails at 11AM that are time stamped at 9:10. 
>  I thought it was a networking issue, but I can’t be sure.  I wish I knew 
> more about coding, to look under the hood to examine things further.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:17 AM, Voytek Eymont  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sat, October 22, 2022 11:29 am, Joseph Tam wrote:
> >> 
> >> I haven't seen anyone else replying, but there doesn't seem anything
> >> anomalous with the output.  The session commands-repliesd is is more or
> >> less what I expect, although to make sense of this, you'll have to splice
> >> the input and output files together using timestamps to see the sequential
> >> flow of data.
> > ...
> >> Typically, if some resource limit is hit, one side or the other will
> >> create a log or notification.  Your INBOX is large, but not outrageous. You
> >> can test it directly by creating smaller subsets of the INBOX messages and
> >> see if the problem goes away.
> > 
> > Joseph,
> > 
> > thank you very much for the follow up!
> > you won't believe it, literally minutes before your email I got this email
> > from the 'problem user' (below)
> > 
> > thank you to all who responded!
> > 
> > - I guess if TB debug log was enabled (as was suggested)- maybe the issue
> > would become apparent from TB debug log ?
> > 
> > - I guess i should encourage POP users to switch to IMAP anyhow ?
> > 
> > got this from problem user:
> > ---
> > Mozilla Thunderbird released an update which I just installed.
> > 
> > Problem solved.
> > 
> > I guess Tbird had a problem that the new release addressed.
> > 
> > I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
> > 
> > I'm mystified why my issue was only with one account. Perhaps it was
> > something to do with the size of the database.
> > 
> > ---
> > yesterday it was
> > ---
> > I'm still experiencing a 40 second delay to retrieve emails for
> > xxx
> > 
> > I have changed the pop port to 110 for the server but that did not
> > work at all.
> > 
> > I have reinstalled my email client TBird but no change, anyway all the
> > other accounts on TBird are working ok but they are MAPI not POP.
> > 
> > 
> > Voytek
> >


Re: ot: how to t/s TBird problems ?

2022-10-23 Thread Chris Wensink
Over the last several months we have seen what seems like large delays in email 
delivery as well,  we get emails at 11AM that are time stamped at 9:10.  I 
thought it was a networking issue, but I can’t be sure.  I wish I knew more 
about coding, to look under the hood to examine things further.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:17 AM, Voytek Eymont  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, October 22, 2022 11:29 am, Joseph Tam wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't seen anyone else replying, but there doesn't seem anything
>> anomalous with the output.  The session commands-repliesd is is more or
>> less what I expect, although to make sense of this, you'll have to splice
>> the input and output files together using timestamps to see the sequential
>> flow of data.
> ...
>> Typically, if some resource limit is hit, one side or the other will
>> create a log or notification.  Your INBOX is large, but not outrageous. You
>> can test it directly by creating smaller subsets of the INBOX messages and
>> see if the problem goes away.
> 
> Joseph,
> 
> thank you very much for the follow up!
> you won't believe it, literally minutes before your email I got this email
> from the 'problem user' (below)
> 
> thank you to all who responded!
> 
> - I guess if TB debug log was enabled (as was suggested)- maybe the issue
> would become apparent from TB debug log ?
> 
> - I guess i should encourage POP users to switch to IMAP anyhow ?
> 
> got this from problem user:
> ---
> Mozilla Thunderbird released an update which I just installed.
> 
> Problem solved.
> 
> I guess Tbird had a problem that the new release addressed.
> 
> I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
> 
> I'm mystified why my issue was only with one account. Perhaps it was
> something to do with the size of the database.
> 
> ---
> yesterday it was
> ---
> I'm still experiencing a 40 second delay to retrieve emails for
> xxx
> 
> I have changed the pop port to 110 for the server but that did not
> work at all.
> 
> I have reinstalled my email client TBird but no change, anyway all the
> other accounts on TBird are working ok but they are MAPI not POP.
> 
> 
> Voytek
> 



Re: ot: how to t/s TBird problems ?

2022-10-23 Thread Voytek Eymont



On Sat, October 22, 2022 11:29 am, Joseph Tam wrote:

> I haven't seen anyone else replying, but there doesn't seem anything
> anomalous with the output.  The session commands-repliesd is is more or
> less what I expect, although to make sense of this, you'll have to splice
> the input and output files together using timestamps to see the sequential
> flow of data.
...
> Typically, if some resource limit is hit, one side or the other will
> create a log or notification.  Your INBOX is large, but not outrageous. You
> can test it directly by creating smaller subsets of the INBOX messages and
> see if the problem goes away.

Joseph,

thank you very much for the follow up!
you won't believe it, literally minutes before your email I got this email
from the 'problem user' (below)

thank you to all who responded!

 - I guess if TB debug log was enabled (as was suggested)- maybe the issue
would become apparent from TB debug log ?

- I guess i should encourage POP users to switch to IMAP anyhow ?

got this from problem user:
---
Mozilla Thunderbird released an update which I just installed.

Problem solved.

I guess Tbird had a problem that the new release addressed.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

I'm mystified why my issue was only with one account. Perhaps it was
something to do with the size of the database.

---
yesterday it was
---
I'm still experiencing a 40 second delay to retrieve emails for
xxx

I have changed the pop port to 110 for the server but that did not
work at all.

I have reinstalled my email client TBird but no change, anyway all the
other accounts on TBird are working ok but they are MAPI not POP.


Voytek



Re: Office 365 SSL issue

2022-10-23 Thread Ervin Hegedüs
Hi Jeff,


On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 09:05:42AM -0400, Jeff Koch wrote:
> We had the same problem starting around October 14th -  'unsupported
> encryption type' - we were running Dovecot 2.2.32. It was resolved by
> upgrading Dovecot, in our case, to v2.3.7

well, thanks for you answer (and also thanks for Zakaria).

This is a sad news, but if there is no other chance... I have to
reinstall the whole machine.

The explained behavior is a bit odd, because if the user replace
the hostname of the IMAP/POP server by the IP address of the
server at the settings, then client notices him that the certificate is
non-valid (because of the FQDN), but after it works... 


Thanks,


a.



Re: Office 365 SSL issue

2022-10-23 Thread Ervin Hegedüs
On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 12:49:29PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 11:31 AM Ervin Hegedüs  wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have a bit old Dovecot instance (Ubuntu 14.04 - there is no
> > chance to upgrade it), with these versions of packages:
> >
> > * Dovecot: 2.2.9
> > * OpenSSL: 1.0.1f
> >
[...]
> 
> If the client is running Windows 11 and recently updated to 22H2, then you
> may be interested in the below:
> 
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/october-17-2022-kb5020387-os-build-22000-1100-out-of-band-5e723873-2769-4e3d-8882-5cb044455a92

no, I'm sure the clients are Windows 10. The test machine what I
got wasn't turned on months ago. So I assume most updates are
missing there...


thanks,


a.