Re: Dovecot with Postfix "no SASL authentication mechanisms"
* mangawi...@gmail.com : > Hi. Can someone help me please check what is wrong with my config? postfix > is saying "no SASL authentication mechanisms" and I'm using dovecot. From > what I read so far, it is related to my dovecot settings. Here are the > details of my config http://paste.debian.net/1290864/ Please verify and show that /var/spool/postfix/private/auth has been created with correct permissions. p@rick -- Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
doveadm REST API: Delete home
Hi! How can I remove a users mail home directory using the REST API? I'm trying to purge a users mailbox including the users $HOME, but it seems I'm on the wrong way. If I send a mailbox delete I end up with "Error: Can't delete INBOX: INBOX can't be deleted.", which kind of makes sense. Should I be using https://doc.dovecot.org/admin_manual/doveadm_http_api/#doveadm-fs-delete instead? TIA, p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
doveadm rebuild: Failed to add attachment keywords
Greetings, I'm using the current dovecot release 2.3.10 and I try to rebuild mailboxes with broken attachment paths. When I run this command: doveadm rebuild attachments -u u...@example.com ALL I runs fine for 6199 of 6223 messages and fails then at message 6200 with this message: doveadm(u...@example.com): Error: Mailbox INBOX: UID=6200: read(attachments-connector(/MailStore/mail/mailboxes/CFEE0E67-6269-4AD3-8DED-6AB71A8E4BD7/dbox/mailboxes/INBOX/dbox-Mails/u.6200)) failed: read(/MailStore/mail/attachment/b9/52/b952b91441e53d3bb57453af2df66bb003e551f4-e94b170ff8bb685e943f162bf795-5d0b3129034c8957284d7dfcf92d-6200[base64:19 b/l]) failed: open(/MailStore/mail/attachment/b9/52/b952b91441e53d3bb57453af2df66bb003e551f4-e94b170ff8bb685e943f162bf795-5d0b3129034c8957284d7dfcf92d-6200) failed: No such file or directory (read reason=) doveadm(u...@example.com): Error: Mailbox INBOX: UID=6200: read(attachments-connector(/MailStore/mail/mailboxes/CFEE0E67-6269-4AD3-8DED-6AB71A8E4BD7/dbox/mailboxes/INBOX/dbox-Mails/u.6200)) failed: read(/MailStore/mail/attachment/b9/52/b952b91441e53d3bb57453af2df66bb003e551f4-e94b170ff8bb685e943f162bf795-5d0b3129034c8957284d7dfcf92d-6200[base64:19 b/l]) failed: open(/MailStore/mail/attachment/b9/52/b952b91441e53d3bb57453af2df66bb003e551f4-e94b170ff8bb685e943f162bf795-5d0b3129034c8957284d7dfcf92d-6200) failed: No such file or directory (read reason=) doveadm(u...@example.com): Error: Mailbox INBOX: UID=6200: Failed to add attachment keywords: mail_get_parts() failed: Mailbox INBOX: UID=6200: read(attachments-connector(/MailStore/mail/mailboxes/CFEE0E67-6269-4AD3-8DED-6AB71A8E4BD7/dbox/mailboxes/INBOX/dbox-Mails/u.6200)) failed: read(/MailStore/mail/attachment/b9/52/b952b91441e53d3bb57453af2df66bb003e551f4-e94b170ff8bb685e943f162bf795-5d0b3129034c8957284d7dfcf92d-6200[base64:19 b/l]) failed: open(/MailStore/mail/attachment/b9/52/b952b91441e53d3bb57453af2df66bb003e551f4-e94b170ff8bb685e943f162bf795-5d0b3129034c8957284d7dfcf92d-6200) failed: No such file or directory (read reason=) 6200 error Assuming the attachments are still there, what would I need to do to 'fix' that? And if I can't fix it, can 'rebuild' skip the error and go on rebuilding the rest? TIA, p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Understanding doveadm rebuild
Greetings, I'm trying to understand if the doveadm rebuild command is suited to fix a problem we have on a customers platform. The customer uses sdbox in combination with SIS and for $REASONS dovecot cannot find the attachements anymore. They are there, but the references to them in the messages seem to be wrong. Is that what the rebuild subcommand has been made for? Will it e.g. scan the messages for attachment references and try to find them in the SIS storage location and then fix the references in messages? TIA, p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Calendar function ?
* André Rodier : > On 2018-10-21 16:33, mj wrote: > > On 10/21/2018 01:22 PM, Maurizio Caloro wrote: > > > Please this are a complet Grouware solutions, are possible to use > > > from this only the Calendar Synchronization and > > > > > > Date, Appontment functionality ? > > > > > > > If that is hat you need, perhas you should checkout sogo: > > > > https://sogo.nu/ > > > > We have been running it for years, with the same backend-components > > you are using: postfix and dovecot. (and active directory) > > > > MJ > > Hello Maurizio, > > I am interested to add Sogo to the mail server I have, and your feedback > would be very interesting. > > I use postfix and dovecot as well, but I have a few questions: > > - Do I have to implement shared folders in order to share calendars? No, you don't. You control sharing calendars either via the SOGo admin interface or by yourself, when you allow access to your calendar. > - Are the calendars and address books are in fact, stored in IMAP folders. No, they aren't. SOGo stores them in a database, e.g. a PostgreSQL server. You access the calendar either (natively) via the SOGo web interface or with a client that speaks either CalDAV or ActiveSync. In both cases the client connects to a http(s)-server that proxies connections to the SOGo sogod server. This server takes care of ACLs and logic and it also accesses the data backend, i.e. the SQL database. > - If yes, are these folders hidden? There aren't any. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: doveadm: problem listing shared mailboxes using a wildcard
* Aki Tuomi :
> Please provide doveconf -n
[root@spike ~]# doveconf -n
# 2.2.10: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# OS: Linux 3.10.0-862.3.3.el7.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804
(Core) xfs
auth_debug = yes
first_valid_uid = 1000
mail_debug = yes
mail_location = sdbox:/srv/mail/%u
mail_plugins = acl
managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope encoded-character
vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric relational regex imap4flags copy
include variables body enotify environment mailbox date ihave
mbox_write_locks = fcntl
namespace {
ignore_on_failure = no
list = children
location = sdbox:%%h
prefix = shared/%%u/
separator = /
subscriptions = no
type = shared
}
namespace inbox {
ignore_on_failure = no
inbox = yes
location =
mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox "Sent Messages" {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Trash {
special_use = \Trash
}
prefix =
separator = /
type = private
}
passdb {
args = scheme=PLAIN username_format=%u /etc/dovecot/users
default_fields = nopassword=y
driver = passwd-file
}
plugin {
acl = vfile
acl_shared_dict = file:/var/lib/dovecot/db/shared-mailboxes.db
sieve = ~/.dovecot.sieve
sieve_dir = ~/sieve
}
service auth {
unix_listener auth-userdb {
group = vmail
mode = 0777
user = vmail
}
}
service imap {
executable = imap post-login
}
service post-login {
executable = script-login /usr/local/bin/postlogin
user = vmail
}
ssl = required
ssl_cert =
>
> ---Aki TuomiDovecot oy
> Original message ----From: Patrick Ben Koetter
> Date: 25/06/2018 17:21 (GMT+02:00) To: dovecot@dovecot.org Cc: Thore
> Bödecker Subject: Re: doveadm: problem listing shared
> mailboxes using a wildcard
> * Thore Bödecker :
> > You might need to quote that last argument, otherwise it can get
> > interpreted by the shell as globbing, which obviously is not what you
> > want.
> >
> > I've been using wildcard arguments enclosed within '' and "" for
> > various doveadm commands without issues so far.
>
> Right. I had thought so too (and forgot to mention it in my intial post), but
> it doesn't make a difference:
>
> # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test shared\*
> # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test "shared*"
> # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test 'shared*'
> # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test "shared\*"
> # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test 'shared\*'
>
> p@rick
>
>
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Re: doveadm: problem listing shared mailboxes using a wildcard
* Thore Bödecker : > You might need to quote that last argument, otherwise it can get > interpreted by the shell as globbing, which obviously is not what you > want. > > I've been using wildcard arguments enclosed within '' and "" for > various doveadm commands without issues so far. Right. I had thought so too (and forgot to mention it in my intial post), but it doesn't make a difference: # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test shared\* # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test "shared*" # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test 'shared*' # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test "shared\*" # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -s -u fd...@spike.test 'shared\*' p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
doveadm: problem listing shared mailboxes using a wildcard
I'm setting up a dovecot server with private and shared namespaces. My test setup has these mailboxes: # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -u fd...@spike.test INBOX/sub01 shared shared/samme...@spike.test shared/samme...@spike.test INBOX In order to do some post-login scripting foo I'd like to get a list of shared mailboxes the user is currently subscribed to. The doveadm-mailbox man page says "It's also possible to use wildcards in the mailbox name." I'd like to use that feature to output only mailboxes from the shared namespace. However usind the wildcard character * doesn't output anything: # /bin/doveadm mailbox list -u fd...@spike.test -s shared* # Am I doing something wrong? p@rick P.S. Running dovecot-2.2.10-8.el7.x86_64 on a centos server. -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Securing postfix to dovecot (SASL) auth
* Aki Tuomi <aki.tu...@dovecot.fi>:
>
>
> On 27.09.2017 13:21, Peter wrote:
> > On 27/09/17 20:35, Thomas Bauer wrote:
> >> service auth {
> >> inet_listener{
> >> address=192.0.0.1
> >> port=10001
> >> ssl=yes
> >> }
> >> }
> > ssl=yes is not documented to work for the auth service and it's highly
> > likely that it is simply ignored.
>
> It is documented for inet_listener's in general and is not ignored. Any
> dovecot inet_listener can be given this flag.
However AFAIK Postfix does not honor an SSL encrypted layer for SASL auth.
> You could use stunnel on the other end.
That's what we usually do.
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Re: Apparent Maildir permission issue
* Mark Foley <mfo...@ohprs.org>: > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 17:51:48 -0500 Bill Shirley <b...@knoxvillechristian.org> > wrote: > > > > I've gotten errors like this when it was actually a selinux denial. If > > you're running > > selinux, check those logs too. > > > > OK, this is getting serious -- mail not getting delivered. > > No, I am not running selinux. Here is the error I get in the maillog: > > Jan 24 16:42:49 mail dovecot: imap(mark): Error: > stat(/home/HPRS/mark/Maildir/tmp) failed: Permission denied > (euid=326(HPRS\mark) egid=100(users) missing +x perm: > /home/HPRS/mark/Maildir, conflicting dir uid=10001(HPRS\mark)) > > Permission are: > > $ ls -l /home/HPRS/mark/Maildir/ > total 200 > drwx-- 2 HPRS\mark domusers 45056 Dec 19 08:13 cur/ > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 131 Jul 1 2016 dovecot-keywords > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 5249 Dec 7 23:06 dovecot-uidlist > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 8 Jul 7 2016 dovecot-uidvalidity > -r--r--r-- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 0 Jan 16 2015 > dovecot-uidvalidity.54b9def3 > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 4080 Nov 27 23:28 dovecot.index > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 88612 Dec 7 23:07 dovecot.index.cache > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 8748 Dec 7 23:07 dovecot.index.log > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 2016 Jul 7 2016 dovecot.mailbox.log > drwx-- 2 HPRS\mark domusers 12288 Jan 13 12:10 new/ > -rw--- 1 HPRS\mark domusers 137 Jul 7 2016 subscriptions > drwx-- 2 HPRS\mark domusers 12288 Jan 13 12:10 tmp/ > > Permission on the Maildir folder for another user who is NOT having this > problem: Move /home/HPRS/mark/ to /home/HPRS/mark_old/ Deliver mail to mark Let dovecot create the new /home/HPRS/mark/ Import mail from /home/HPRS/mark_old to /home/HPRS/mark/ p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Good email client to use with Dovecot?
* li...@lazygranch.com <li...@lazygranch.com>: > So does mutt suck or not? If you work with vi and like it, chances are you will also like mutt. Personally I *love* mutt! No extra fat. Always on the spot. It is "liberal in what it receives and conservative in how it sends". Since it is command line program, I can run it almost everywhere. It supports local mailboxes, SMTP, POP and IMAP as well as S/MIME and PGP. You can highly customize it, if you want to with rules per folder, per sender adress etc. pp. Just like vi it takes a while until you have internalized the (invisible) interface. Once you've moved beyond that point you will experience an enormous boost in efficency. If you want to, ping me offline and I will share my mutt config. That should make it easier to start using it. p@rick > Original Message > From: Andreas Kalex > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:06 PM > To: Dovecot Mailing List > Subject: Re: Good email client to use with Dovecot? > > since years mutt, 'cause it really sucks. > I tried TB or claws, evolution, opera but always returned to mutt. > > > > Am 18. November 2016 06:31:43 MEZ, schrieb Steve Litt > <sl...@troubleshooters.com>: > >On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:07:15 -0800 > >li...@lazygranch.com wrote: > > > >> FWIW, I use claws, which is about the only one not mentioned. > >> > >> I don't like Thunderbird. For one thing, it is in caretaker status. > >> Mozilla believes Web based mail is the "future." I rather not run > >> roundcube, given I got hacked via an unpatched roundcube back when I > >> was using a hosting company. Webmail just increases your attack > >> surface. > > > >Thanks. > > > >My reason for exploring Alpine is I'm moving away from Claws, for > >non-technical reasons I won't burden this list with. > > > >Thanks, > > > >SteveT > > > >Steve Litt > >November 2016 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business > >http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Disabling passdb pam in local.conf
* Timo Sirainen <dovecot@dovecot.org>:
> Hmm. If you want to just kludge it, I guess you could do a 00-auth.conf:
>
> passdb {
> driver = whatever you want for your real passdb
> args = etc
> result_failure = return
> result_internalfail = return
> }
>
> So even though pam is still in the config, it's just never actually called.
I played with the idea to set result_failure and result_internalfail to pass
it all through, too. But then things started to get nasty and I took the long
road and began to edit more than local.conf.
But thanks for taking the time to review and rethink this.
p@rick
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Re: Disabling passdb pam in local.conf
* Patrick Ben Koetter <p...@sys4.de>:
> * Marcus Rueckert <da...@nordisch.org>:
> > > What am I missing?
> >
> > That 10-auth.conf is actually meant to be edited. most distros should
> > have configuration file handling pretty much figured out by now. so
> > none of your changes to those files should get lost. also configuration
> > management comes to mind.
>
> As I repeatedly said none of those actions are an option in this project.
> I think we better stop this thread.
For the books:
It can't be done at the moment. That would require the passdb section to
become a named section, e.g. like this:
passdb pam {
driver = pam
}
Then one would be able to address this particular passdb namespace and do e.g.
something like this:
passdb pam {
driver = pam
enabled = no
}
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Re: Disabling passdb pam in local.conf
* Marcus Rueckert <da...@nordisch.org>: > > What am I missing? > > That 10-auth.conf is actually meant to be edited. most distros should > have configuration file handling pretty much figured out by now. so > none of your changes to those files should get lost. also configuration > management comes to mind. As I repeatedly said none of those actions are an option in this project. I think we better stop this thread. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Disabling passdb pam in local.conf
* Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com>: > What distro settings? These files should remain unchanged: ~$ tree /etc/dovecot/ /etc/dovecot/ ├── conf.d │ ├── 10-auth.conf │ ├── 10-director.conf │ ├── 10-logging.conf │ ├── 10-mail.conf │ ├── 10-master.conf │ ├── 10-ssl.conf │ ├── 10-tcpwrapper.conf │ ├── 15-lda.conf │ ├── 15-mailboxes.conf │ ├── 20-imap.conf │ ├── 90-acl.conf │ ├── 90-plugin.conf │ ├── 90-quota.conf │ ├── auth-checkpassword.conf.ext │ ├── auth-deny.conf.ext │ ├── auth-master.conf.ext │ ├── auth-passwdfile.conf.ext │ ├── auth-sql.conf.ext │ ├── auth-static.conf.ext │ ├── auth-system.conf.ext │ └── auth-vpopmail.conf.ext ├── dovecot.conf ├── dovecot-dict-sql.conf.ext ├── dovecot.pem ├── dovecot-sql.conf.ext ├── private └── README Only /etc/dovecot/local.conf should be changed. p@rick > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 20, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter <p...@sys4.de> wrote: > > > > * Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com>: > >> Is your goal to have "1" config file? > > > > No, that would eliminate the ability to change distro settings via the > > regular > > package management. > > > > My goal is to add/remove what my service requires via the additional > > local.conf. > > > > p@rick > > > > -- > > [*] sys4 AG > > > > https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 > > Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München > > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 > > Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer > > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein > > -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Disabling passdb pam in local.conf
* Edgar Pettijohn <ed...@pettijohn-web.com>: > Is your goal to have "1" config file? No, that would eliminate the ability to change distro settings via the regular package management. My goal is to add/remove what my service requires via the additional local.conf. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schleißheimer Straße 26/MG,80333 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Disabling passdb pam in local.conf
Greetings,
I'm trying to create a configuration that leaves every config file deployed by
an install process or paket management software untouched. The goal is to put
every configuration required into /etc/dovecot/local.conf.
I've come quite far, but I fail to disable pam as passdb service in
local.conf. What I get if I run doveconf -n is this section:
passdb {
driver = pam
}
It is in there, because 10-auth.conf includes it:
!include auth-system.conf.ext
These actions are not an option at the moment:
- modify /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-auth.conf and comment/remove the
!include-statement
- create an /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf which would contain all options required
and would not include any other *.conf files
Reading http://wiki2.dovecot.org/ConfigFile I see ways to include external
files, but nothing to exclude a file in local.conf.
Knowing Timo I would expect there is a way to acchieve what I want. I just
don't seem to find it.
What am I missing?
Regards,
p@rick
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Re: Hypothetical feature suggestion
* Stephen Feyrer <stephen.fey...@btinternet.com>: > Hi, > > Assuming one sends an E-mail which in turn requires either an update > or correction. The current practise is to send a subsequent E-mail > with the new or corrected info. > > I would like to suggest a small feature. I recognise that this > would require that the sending application would need to support > this same feature. > > The sender should be able to edit a sent email, transmit a diff of > the original and then the receiving mail store composite the changes > into a new email. This could be with or without features to allow > the review historic versions of said E-mail. > > Alternatively, regular expressions could be employed to achieve this > effect (albeit, a more complex approach). > > This would provide a kind of Web 2 look on E-mail. Sounds a lot like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemonade_Profile p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Howto get information about quota used
* Макаров Денис <dovecot@dovecot.org>: > Hello guys! > > I have Dovecot server (version: 2.2.9) with quota and imap_quota plugins. > > I wanna know how to get information about quota used of current email. > > I can do this with IMAP client like Thunderbird, but how I can do it > on server? Try this: # doveadm quota get -A ... p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Dovecot CalDAV server
* Niklaas Baudet von Gersdorff <nikl...@kulturflatrate.net>: > On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:43:16 +0300 > Timo Sirainen <t...@iki.fi> wrote: > > > I've been once in a while over the years thinking about implementing > > CalDAV (and CardDAV) to Dovecot. It might be time to start that soon. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? So far my main goals would be: > > > > - scalable, of course > > - configurable storage (object storage, regular fs, maybe some > > key-value dbs, maybe storing as emails) > > - efficient indexes (potentially using key-value dbs? or maybe just > > local files. not sure yet what kind of indexing is needed) > > - have it work with dsync (= replication & migration) > > Have you heard about SOGo yet? > > http://www.sogo.nu/ > > It is an entire groupware server but its focus lies on scalability > implemented through open standards. For an overview check SOGo is good groupware. It is rock solid and runs stable. But it won't scale for what Timo is after. At least that's what I was told a while ago. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Dovecot CalDAV server
* Timo Sirainen <dovecot@dovecot.org>: > I've been once in a while over the years thinking about implementing CalDAV > (and CardDAV) to Dovecot. It might be time to start that soon. Does anyone > have any suggestions? So far my main goals would be: > > - scalable, of course > - configurable storage (object storage, regular fs, maybe some key-value > dbs, maybe storing as emails) > - efficient indexes (potentially using key-value dbs? or maybe just local > files. not sure yet what kind of indexing is needed) > - have it work with dsync (= replication & migration) Well CalDAV/CardDAV is just another protocol you put in front of your storage engine, right? (Besides the tweaks it will take…) > Some things I wonder about: > > - Maybe there is already some code out there that could be used to implement > it faster? > - Maybe even use something else besides C to implement it.. Then again that > makes integration to Dovecot more difficult. Have you had a look at http://radicale.org/? I haven't used it myself, but heard good things about it. p@rick > - Is anybody interested in helping to develop this? :) I think I still have > too much other work that I won't spend a lot of time coding it.. > > One thing that makes this easier is that Open-Xchange has already implemented > a CalDAV server, so they can help to avoid the biggest design mistakes. > (There are a couple of reasons why they'd want to replace that.) -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: centos 7 dovecot 2.2.10 segmentation fault on devcot/auth using ldap driver in userdb
* Andrea Lisci andreli...@gmail.com: dovecot 2.2.10 packaged by centos 7 configuring ldap driver on userdb cause imap crash during login SELinux enabled? p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Calendar and address book with Dovecot
* mimic...@gmail.com mimic...@gmail.com: What other software (ideally open source, free) do I need in other to have Calendar and address book so my users can manage their contact on their phones or computer? I have looked at Roundcube already, but my requirement is not necessarily to provide web mail. What comes to mind: - Horde - SOGo - Kolab - Radicale - Modoboa (with management for Radicale) -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Thunderbird supports SPECIAL-USE (Merry x-mas!)
I've waited about two years to write this mail... :) As of Dezember, 24th Mozilla Thunderbird can handle SPECIAL-USE. The patch, which adds the required functionality, has passed review and TBs nightly build was successful. The next official Thunderbird release (version 38, release date 2015-05-19) will very likely ship SPECIAL-USE included. \o/ SPECIAL USE is an IMAP extension. It means less mailbox chaos for admins. But more than that it means less configuration work and easier orientation for end users. If IMAP server and client are capable of SPECIAL-USE [1] the server may tell the client some of the folders (Inbox, Drafts, Sent, Trash etc.) are reserved for SPECIAL-USE. Any client, capable of SPECIAL-USE, may adapts its local folders to the servers view. It may map e.g. Sent Items to Sent, Deleted Items to Trassh etc. pp. All this takes place automatically. No more user interaction. No more locale problems. When all components - server, desktop-, webmail-, and mobile client - can handle SPECIAL-USE live becomes easier. Clients don't create their own 'special folders'. They understand special folders already exist and adapt. No more superfluous ambiguous folders. Users will know where their messages have been stored. Note: Combined with automx [2] users will only have to enter their realname, mail address and (optional) password and their client will setup all the rest automatically. SPECIAL-USE started as a suggestion to friends at IETF. We sponsored its implementation in Dovecot [3], when it had become a RFC standard. Then we took out to bring it to Thunderbird. This took use longer than expected. The moment we had begun to work on it, Mozilla withdrew most people from the Thunderbird team and reassigned them to Firefox OS. Things slowed down significantly and Microsoft Outlook became the first mail client to adopt SPECIAL-USE. Two years later - together with Ben Bucksch (Thunderbird developer) - we finally succeeded and it is about time to close the RFE [4]. Nobody should have to spend more time than required to configure their client. Everyone should be able to focus on their primary goal - communication via mail. We - sys4 and our business partner Becon - sponsored SPECIAL-USE. I hope SPECIAL-USE will make your and your customers life easier. The patch just became ready for x-mas. :) p@rick P.S. Unpacking the gift will have to wait until 2015-05-19. ;) [1] IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6154.txt [2] automx - mail setup made easy! https://automx.org/ [3] Mailbox settings http://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxSettings [4] Bug 558659 - (RFC6154) Support IMAP LIST SPECIAL-USE (RFC 6154) to autoconfigure Sent, Trash, Draft folders on IMAP servers https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558659 -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: Subject tag [Dovecot] is gone
Professa, I suggest to take this discussion to the DKIM mailing list or even better to DMARC at IETF. Discussing the usefulness of DKIM or DMARC is better done there. Until people at IETF come up with a solution for DMARC that works for all participants most MLs, just like this, are better off avoiding further damage to mail transport by not adding the list name to the subject and not adding a footer. Of all available options not to break DMARC, this is still the best - be it liked or not. p@rick * Professa Dementia dovecot@dovecot.org: On 6/9/2014 7:26 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: The main reason is DKIM, which is starting to be a real problem. I have not used DKIM much. My mail server and client mostly deal with SPF. I have a filter that colorizes messages that have no SPF or a missing DKIM or bad DKIM signature. I *have* noticed that a lot of messages from the list get marked in such manner, but it never really bothered me and I never thought about it much. Now I understand why that happens (the [Dovecot] identifier in the subject). When trying to solve a problem, the first thing is to correctly identify the problem. You cannot solve a problem if you do not even know what it is. The underlying problem is to identify and classify emails as ones you want and ones you do not want. This is not easy and involves reading a person's mind. A person may, depending on their mood, classify the same email differently at different times, which complicates things. DKIM assumes that you can, in many cases, classify emails this way based on authenticating the *domain* of the sender. This has some serious flaws in that it does not address this issue, even though it purports to. One way to classify an email as wanted is if it comes from someone you know and want to communicate with. Signing based on a domain does nothing to address this. If my girlfriend is j...@yahoo.com, I want to receive her emails. That does not means I want to receive all emails from the yahoo.com domain. I do not want someone else to impersonate her. If later, we break up and I no longer want to receive her emails, DKIM does nothing to help with that, either. That could be OK if such functionality is beyond its scope. DKIM erroneously bundles sender authentication with message validation. I want to know that it really was j...@yahoo.com that sent me the message and not someone trying to impersonate her. However, as a separate function, I would like to know that the message I received is not the one she sent. These functions should not be integrated. As it is now, if the signature does not verify, I do not know why. Was the sender spoofed? Was some part of the message modified in some way? And just for the record, I believe that the subject line should conceptually be treated as part of the message, along with the date. DKIM is too strict. If I want to present a legal document (email) in court, I may want to prove that the document I present to the court is exactly as it was when it was sent to me. However, this is not a common occurrence. The real world is messy and imperfect and often, changes to emails are innocuous and legitimate. Mailing lists are an example of this. A mailing list or anti-virus scanner *should* be able to add a footer or add a mailing list identifier to the subject line, as long as those changes can be marked as later additions that the original sender is not accountable for. An email program should make it clear to the recipient which parts are not accountable to the original sender. I am not proposing a new standard, simply pointing out that breaking an established protocol (by removing the [Dovecot] subject identifier) because of a flawed anti-spam system is not in people's best interest. Can a spammer spoof messages from the list? Sure. Has it happened? Not that I am aware of. Is it a problem? Not so far. So why, then, make people go through all this trouble of setting up new filters and rules, mail routing, software upgrades, etc, just to appease a standard that is clearly broken? Dem -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Heartbleed openssl vulnerability?
* John Rowe j.m.r...@exeter.ac.uk: Do we know if dovecot is vulnerable to the heartbleed SSL problem? ANY application using the affected OpenSSL versions is vulnerable. That includes dovecot. I'm running dovecot-2.0.9 and openssl-1.01, the latter being intrinsically vulnerable. An on-line tool says that my machine is not affected on port 993 but it would be nice to know for sure if we were vulnerable for a while. (Naturally I've blocked it anyway!). Thanks John -- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] RFE: IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes
* Charles Marcus dovecot@dovecot.org: Sorry for replying to such an old email, but... Thank you. You just made me feel very old... ;) I'm wondering how 'Templates' got left out? It is a Special folder in Thunderbird that you can't delete - and it is very useful (at least in Thunderbird) as well... I tried adding it in my dovecot (2.2.10) config, but it complained about an unsupported option... I searched a few minutes, but couldn't find the link to quote here: Special-Use Mailbox names need to be registered. IIRC Templates didn't make it into the first RFC. I am not aware of a discussion that abandoned it either. Probably, if you gave it a try, you can have it added and Timo will add it afterwards... p@rick On 2011-03-11 5:31 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de wrote: A server may, for example, mark a folder as \Sent. Any client that connects to such a server can search for a folder that has been attributed as Sent. No need to create a new folder Sent Items if there's a special folder marked as \Sent. Same goes for clients that insist on calling it sent or Gesendete Objekte or ... The RFC reserves a list of special use folders: \All This mailbox presents all messages in the user's message store. Implementations MAY omit some messages, such as, perhaps, those in \Trash and \Junk. When this special use is supported, it is almost certain to represent a virtual mailbox. \Archive This mailbox is used to archive messages. The meaning of an archival mailbox is server-dependent; typically, it will be used to get messages out of the inbox, or otherwise keep them out of the user's way, while still making them accessible. \Drafts This mailbox is used to hold draft messages -- typically, messages that are being composed but have not yet been sent. In some server implementations, this might be a virtual mailbox, containing messages from other mailboxes that are marked with the \Draft message flag. Alternatively, this might just be advice that a client put drafts here. \Flagged This mailbox presents all messages marked in some way as important. When this special use is supported, it is likely to represent a virtual mailbox collecting messages (from other mailboxes) that are marked with the \Flagged message flag. \Junk This mailbox is where messages deemed to be junk mail are held. Some server implementations might put messages here automatically. Alternatively, this might just be advice to a client-side spam filter. \Sent This mailbox is used to hold copies of messages that have been sent. Some server implementations might put messages here automatically. Alternatively, this might just be advice that a client save sent messages here. \Trash This mailbox is used to hold messages that have been deleted or marked for deletion. In some server implementations, this might be a virtual mailbox, containing messages from other mailboxes -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] pop3 rate limit
* michael dovecot@dovecot.org: On 2013-12-29 02:05, Christian Rößner wrote: Hi, we have customers with Exchange servers that are polling for new mail every minute with dozens of pop3 accounts. I am looking for a mechanism to rate limit this per user. So what I am looking for is a way to block users from polling, if a user asks for new mail more than every 5 minutes (for example). Is this possible? Can this be achieved within Dovecot or does it need external scripting? (I thought about fail2ban, but also want IPv6 support) Thanks in advance -Christian Rößner See: www.policyd.org You'll need to use v2.1 to get IPV6 support. policyd can rate limit dovecot POP3 users? p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot MTA
retrieve such a policy would be a DNSSEC query result, which won't work in this case because that DNSSEC status is what you are looking for. Sounds like a chicken-and-egg problem to me. :) That leaves it to local policies noted in e.g. a map. Postfix 2.11 will support that by expanding its current smtp_tls_policy_maps parameter with the new 'dane-only' option: dane-only Mandatory DANE TLS. The TLS policy for the destination is obtained via TLSA records in DNSSEC. If no TLSA records are found, or none are usable, no connection is made to the server. (...) - Add a new DNS record that advertises this is a Dovecot MTA (or compatible). If such entry is found (especially when correctness is guaranteed by DNSSEC), the email sender can assume that certain features exist and work correctly. If they don't, it could indicate an attack and the mail sending should be retried later. This DNS record would of course be good to try to standardize. Is this a variation of DANE? DANE for MUAs? It would be an MUA feature and not one to implement in the MTA, right? I like the idea. But given the speed it takes MUA producers to adopt new standards I doubt we will see such a standard in widely deployed MUAs (Outlook, Mail, Thunderbird [dying project]) within reasonable time. Besides the impression I have that vendors are moving to webclients/web app solutions. * Configuration: It would take years to implement all of the settings that Postfix has, but I think it's not going to be necessary. In fact I think the number of new settings to dovecot.conf that Dovecot MTA requires would be very minimal. Instead nearly all of the configuration could be done using Sieve scripts. We'd need to implement some new MTA-specific Sieve extensions and a few core features/configurations/databases that the scripts can use, but after that there wouldn't be really any limits to what could be done with them. I understand the costs to implement features are low. That's good. What are the costs for admins to learn the new features. To me it seems (writing 'seems' on purpose, because I don't 'know') most of the features you proposed are policies and not features. Current MTAs are/will be able to support the functionality required to enforce the policies you listed. If I am right about all this, then I'd conclude it would be more useful to create and publish a BCP document and - optionally - submit that to IETF. IIRC last time I spoke to Alexey he was looking for a BCP for IMAP. * Try to implement as many existing interfaces as possible (e.g. Milter and various Postfix APIs like policy servers) so that it wouldn’t be necessary to reimplement all the tools and filters. I would *love* IMAP - especially Dovecot - do adopt these filter APIs on the IMAP side - connection, session and content filters. So perhaps something like this could be done in time for Dovecot v2.4. Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions? From what I have read I am not convinced a Dovecot MTA would implement anything that takes SMTP itself any further. I see pain, but no gain. ;) You'd have an additional Dovecot product, which might make sense. But its not up to me to judge on that. Personally, I would like Dovecot to add other protocols on top of its message store. But that's another story out of this discussions scope. :) p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Dovecot] Auto-blocking faulty login attempts
* Jos Chrispijn dove...@webrz.net: Dear group, How can I block login attempts to dovecot after trying 5 times in error? If you can read German take a look at this: http://sys4.de/de/blog/2012/12/28/botnets-mit-rsyslog-und-iptables-recent-modul-abwehren/ p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot security
* Jay Khashan jkhas...@msn.com: Hi, THIS IS URGENT I have Debian Linux machine which I installed as a mail server with postfix, and dovecot. my mail server is setup to use SMTP relay. I currently have ports 143, 995, 25 SSMTP ports open. in the last few days I have been under attack where email is being sent to fake email address for example x...@evg-mail.org which does not exist in the mysql db. Show evidence. I need to figure out and lock down dovecot, because I believe the attack is some kind of virus /spyware. I need to know what statement in dovecot.conf or main.cf (postfix) I can modify to lock it down. Also open to install software to combat this kind of attack. Let me know what configuration files, info do you need to help out At the moment Dovecot can't send mail. Postfix can. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Testing SMTP AUTH
* Ajai Khattri symb...@gmail.com: Ive configured Postfix to use Dovecot for SMTP AUTH. I tried to test it but when I send the AUTH LOGIN command I get a response saying that AUTH method is not supported/implemented. How to test then? What do you get when you run this: # dovecot -n | grep auth_mechanisms -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Testing SMTP AUTH
* Ajai Khattri symb...@gmail.com: On Friday, June 14, 2013, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: What do you get when you run this: # dovecot -n | grep auth_mechanisms I get nothing back so I guess that needs to be configured. I'm using a virtual passwd file for POP3/IMAP auth. Have you read Postfix' SASL_README? It should tell you what needs to be done on Postfix and Dovecot side. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Released Pigeonhole v0.4.0 for Dovecot v2.2.1.
* Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl: On 5/10/2013 12:12 PM, Christian Rohmann wrote: Hey Stephan, On 05/09/2013 11:23 PM, Stephan Bosch wrote: It basically acts as a front-end to your normal MTA. First of all, it provides a convenient way to add SMTP AUTH support to any MTA. But the main goal for this project is to implement an SMTP submission server with full support for the LEMONADE profile (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4550). It acts as a proxy server, so it doesn't queue anything; once the client sees a success reply for the message submission, it is already accepted in the actual MTA queue. I have one remark and one question: Remark: Don't forget XCLIENT / XFORWARD support to help the real MTA understand who it's really talking to. XCLIENT is already implemented. But, afaik, this is only supported by Postfix. I also noticed a problem with XCLIENT LOGIN=user. Even when that is specified, Postfix doesn't allow relaying for a client authenticated through Dovecot submission. I am still not sure what I am messing up there (I did configure smtp_recipient_restrictions correctly I believe). What is XFORWARD good for? It looks very similar, but focused on dealing with mail filter intermediaries. I don't think this applies here. It forwards the META data for logging purposes and is useful to create consistent logging. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Released Pigeonhole v0.4.0 for Dovecot v2.2.1.
* Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl: On 5/10/2013 2:20 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl: What is XFORWARD good for? It looks very similar, but focused on dealing with mail filter intermediaries. I don't think this applies here. It forwards the META data for logging purposes and is useful to create consistent logging. I understood as much from: http://www.postfix.org/XFORWARD_README.html But I don't quite understand how this is different from XCLIENT, apart from the SOURCE and IDENT items perhaps. XCLIENT impersonates a client and the SMTP server will act as if the XCLIENT was the real client, e.g. it will apply ACLs and other policies to the XCLIENT personality. XFORWARD will not alter the SMTP server behaviour. The client and message data from XFORWARD will only be used for logging purposes. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Released Pigeonhole v0.4.0 for Dovecot v2.2.1.
* Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl: On 5/10/2013 3:02 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl: But I don't quite understand how this is different from XCLIENT, apart from the SOURCE and IDENT items perhaps. XCLIENT impersonates a client and the SMTP server will act as if the XCLIENT was the real client, e.g. it will apply ACLs and other policies to the XCLIENT personality. XFORWARD will not alter the SMTP server behaviour. The client and message data from XFORWARD will only be used for logging purposes. Ah. One question: what should I do when the server allows both of these? Or is that impossible? It is possible to offer both capabilities and I think the goal defines if you should impersonate another client or merely forward client meta data. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Re: [Dovecot] Upgrading 1.2 to 2.x
Simon, * Simon Brereton simon.buongio...@gmail.com: I'm about to upgrade to 2.1.7 in my test environment, but doveconf -n -c dovecot.1.conf dovecot.2.conf is producing a blank file, so I am unsure how to proceed. I know a lot has changed between them, so I don't really want to have to start from scratch unless I have to. unless you have spent hours tweaking your config, setting up Dovecot 2.x should be fairly easy. If your old config isn't too complex I wouldn't waste time discussing this problem, but move on to create it from scratch in 2.x. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Best practice for sieve script synchronization
* Oli Schacher dove...@lists.wgwh.ch: We consider deploying a two server active-active setup with dsync replication for ~2500 users. When? Dovecot 2.2 will have a much improved dsync protocol, allowing for sieve replication. IIRC the functionality isn't there yet, but I guess you can either build your own logic or pay Timo to add it to dync. p@rick -- This message does not contain horse meat THAT made my day. :D -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Per user special-use folder names
* Radek Novotný rad...@seznam.cz:
Hi all,
let me ask a question, please. Is it possible in dovecot to set up
per user special-use folder names?
Imagine situation with two users where first prefere another
language that second.
You don't need per-user folder SPECIAL-USE names, because the client must take
care of the correct mapping.
If the client runs in an German environment it might mount the special_use =
\Sent mailbox as Gesendete Objekte and if it is Czechian it might call it
Odeslaná pošta.
That's part of what makes SPECIAL-USE so sexy. It is language independent.
All it does is say This mailbox is reserved for that particular usage. How
you call it, is up to you (client).
p@rick
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
for english speaking users and
mailbox Odeslaná pošta {
special_use = \Sent
}
for czech speaking users.
Thanks for your answers. Radek
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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot SASL Client support?
* Timo Sirainen dovecot@dovecot.org: Then there's the whole other question of whether that client side SASL code could be exported to a separate library, possibly even API compatible with Cyrus SASL. I think that's unlikely to happen, especially because the code most likely would require libdovecot.so, which isn't really meant to be linked against non-Dovecot software. Probably an easier way to get rid of Cyrus SASL client code would be to move to GNU SASL. My two cent: If it is as good as GNUTLS, I'd rather stick with Cyrus SASL. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] [OT] GNUTLS (was: Re: Dovecot SASL Client support?)
* Aleksandar Lazic al-dove...@none.at: Am 09-01-2013 11:36, schrieb Markus Schönhaber: 09.01.2013 09:52, Patrick Ben Koetter: If it is as good as GNUTLS, I'd rather stick with Cyrus SASL. Out of curiosity: what's so bad with GNUTLS? +1 I thought the same, you was faster for the question. We've been hunting down interoperability problems on Debian/Ubuntu plattforms ever since Debian switched to GNUTLS. OpenLDAP, Postfix, Dovecot... you name it. We ended up rebuilding the packages with OpenSSL support. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot SASL Client support?
* /dev/rob0 dovecot@dovecot.org: On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 08:59:09AM -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: So that postfix can use dovecot-sasl for remotely authenticating against another SMTP server, ie, for secure relays... I don't think this makes sense for Dovecot to implement -- maybe P@rick and/or Timo will correct this if I am wrong. That's a difficult subject, because I am not the author of Dovecot. So whatever I say, Timo definitely has the last word on this. But since you invited me, here are my thoughts: At the moment Dovecot does not implement an SMTP/LMTP client. This might change, when Timo decides to implement all of the LEMONADE feature, which at some point require the IMAP server to edit and send messages on behalf of a (mobile) client. Timo will shed more light on his plans. IF that part will be implemented it MAY make sense to add the AUTH capability to the SMTP/LMTP client, because the receiving SMTP/LMTP server MAY require it. IF at that point Dovecot becomes capable to AUTH on the client side, it MAY share that capability with another program e.g. Postfix. At the moment Postfix uses a simple IF/THEN mechanism, which is configured in two columns in and provided via smtp_sasl_password_maps: IF HOST THEN IDENTITY If Postfix were to use Dovecot as AUTH service it would have to query Dovecot for every hosts it contacts. Dovecot would have to know when Postfix would have to use AUTH, it would have to choose the apropriate SASL mechanism and it would have to guide Postfix through the mechanisms steps including handing over the identity when required. All this to solve a problem that already has been solved. My personal opinion/preference is: Use Cyrus SASL when you need SMTP AUTH on a Boundary Server, a Relay or if you need SASL on the client side. Use Dovecot SASL if your mail service offers SMTP and also POP/IMAP on the same system and/or if you combine more roles (mail server, Boundary Server, Relay, Gateway etc.). Server SASL is a natural offshoot of an imapd, because the same credentials are used, and just as with an IMAP client, the imapd merely has to validate the credentials. Client SASL is different. The credentials are not necessarily in use by the imapd otherwise, and the job of the client SASL library is to generate the authentication, not to validate it. recognize, choose and generate. I don't expect to see Dovecot providing client SASL. Neither do I, but it's not upon me to tell. :) p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot SASL Client support?
* Ed W li...@wildgooses.com: Hi At the moment Dovecot does not implement an SMTP/LMTP client. This might change, when Timo decides to implement all of the LEMONADE feature, which at some point require the IMAP server to edit and send messages on behalf of a (mobile) client. Timo will shed more light on his plans. Are you thinking about burl smtp? Yes, I am. Someone from Apple implemented this for postfix some years back, but it doesn't seem to have made it into mainline (I think through oversight and Apple not pushing a second time though...) IIRC Wietse didn't want to implement it (at that time). It will need client support, but my design would be something like an IMAP extension which works something like SMTP *this* specific message using these login details and these sender/recipient details. Many mobile provides would support it, because it would help them to solve bandwidth and battery problems. They do all kinds of tricks to save energy e.g. send silent (hidden) SMS to notify of incoming mail instead of IDLEing, because IDLE costs much more battery power. That way the mail client can completely generate the mail using any IMAP tricks at it's disposal to minimise traffic, once the mail is generated and in some location, eg Sent, Drafts or INBOX as per your preference, then finally instructing the server to push it into the normal SMTP system (for bonus marks it could forward the clients IP using X-FORWARDED-FOR so that the SMTP can make decisions based on IP address). This design gives you all the benefits of keeping the SMTP system, minimises traffic, allows for storing Sent Items or not as per your preference and avoids the use of magic folders. Now all we need is client support... I know. Note there is a feature of Courier which does something similar, but it uses magic folders (ideally we want to be able to smtp any message in any folder in order that we can easily implement our preferred storage policies) http://www.courier-mta.org/imap/INSTALL.html#imapsend Yep. But that doesn't save bandwith etc. Anyway, we are moving OT. I'm out. :) p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] dovecot and avahi
* Tom Hendrikx dovecot@dovecot.org: On 01-01-13 18:01, Ben Morrow wrote: At 5PM +0100 on 1/01/13 you (Tom Hendrikx) wrote: If you want to advertise your mail config for easy setup over the internet, take a look at: http://www.automx.org/ I thought most gooey mail clients supported RFC 6186 nowadays? Ben As you can see from their docs, it supports a lot more than what you can put in SRV DNS records AFAIK. I don't use either of the solutions actively, and don't support any client setups so I don't really know what is currently available in clients, and needed or superior on server side. automx combines Mozillas autoconfig service and Microsofts autodiscover service in one tool. With automx you can provision SMTP/POP/IMAP and ActiveSync account settings (but not the services themselves). Microsoft Outlook 2007+, Thunderbird 3+, Microsoft Mobiles and other mobiles known to support ActiveSync can make use of the automx webservice. Apple products do not support either MS' or MZ's provisioning services. AFAIK the only way to configure these clients is to store an XML file at a dedicated location in advance, use the Apple Configurator or go the real hard way and use Mobile Device Management (MDM) services. The aforementioned RFC 6186 has shortcommings compared to autodiscover/autoconfig-services: You can tell the service location (URI) and port, but you can't specify transport policies (plaintext, SSL, STARTTLS), authentication mechanisms etc. I would not want to use it in a business environment. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] dovecot and avahi
* Robert Moskowitz dovecot@dovecot.org: On 01/01/2013 01:39 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Tom Hendrikx dovecot@dovecot.org: On 01-01-13 18:01, Ben Morrow wrote: At 5PM +0100 on 1/01/13 you (Tom Hendrikx) wrote: If you want to advertise your mail config for easy setup over the internet, take a look at: http://www.automx.org/ I thought most gooey mail clients supported RFC 6186 nowadays? Ben As you can see from their docs, it supports a lot more than what you can put in SRV DNS records AFAIK. I don't use either of the solutions actively, and don't support any client setups so I don't really know what is currently available in clients, and needed or superior on server side. automx combines Mozillas autoconfig service and Microsofts autodiscover service in one tool. With automx you can provision SMTP/POP/IMAP and ActiveSync account settings (but not the services themselves). Microsoft Outlook 2007+, Thunderbird 3+, Microsoft Mobiles and other mobiles known to support ActiveSync can make use of the automx webservice. Apple products do not support either MS' or MZ's provisioning services. AFAIK the only way to configure these clients is to store an XML file at a dedicated location in advance, use the Apple Configurator or go the real hard way and use Mobile Device Management (MDM) services. The aforementioned RFC 6186 has shortcommings compared to autodiscover/autoconfig-services: You can tell the service location (URI) and port, but you can't specify transport policies (plaintext, SSL, STARTTLS), authentication mechanisms etc. I would not want to use it in a business environment. thank you very much for this analysis. SRV records were only intented to find the services that would then set up the policies. There is considerable pushback on using DNS for a general purpose database. I had to fight for my HIP DNS RRs for holding just Host Identities. I see that it can use SQL for some information handling. Does it work with the sql tables managed by postfixadmin? We - Christian and I - haven't tried, but I am sure it will, because you are free to define any SQL query you want in automx to get what you want from postfixadmin. You may also use Modoboa to manage the mailboxes. Antoine just ran a blog article on using automx with it: http://modoboa.org/en/weblog/2012/12/16/make-users-life-easier-with-automx/ p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] dovecot and avahi
* Robert Schetterer r...@sys4.de: Am 01.01.2013 20:08, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter: * Robert Moskowitz dovecot@dovecot.org: On 01/01/2013 01:39 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Tom Hendrikx dovecot@dovecot.org: On 01-01-13 18:01, Ben Morrow wrote: At 5PM +0100 on 1/01/13 you (Tom Hendrikx) wrote: If you want to advertise your mail config for easy setup over the internet, take a look at: http://www.automx.org/ I thought most gooey mail clients supported RFC 6186 nowadays? Ben As you can see from their docs, it supports a lot more than what you can put in SRV DNS records AFAIK. I don't use either of the solutions actively, and don't support any client setups so I don't really know what is currently available in clients, and needed or superior on server side. automx combines Mozillas autoconfig service and Microsofts autodiscover service in one tool. With automx you can provision SMTP/POP/IMAP and ActiveSync account settings (but not the services themselves). Microsoft Outlook 2007+, Thunderbird 3+, Microsoft Mobiles and other mobiles known to support ActiveSync can make use of the automx webservice. typo not activesync they do autoconfig Robert is wrong. automx can provision activesync accounts. p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
[Dovecot] Dovecot G+ community
For those who own a G+ account and don't mind seeing colors in a browser once in a while instead of staring at a black/white terminal all day long, join the Dovecot G+ community https://plus.google.com/communities/112967413753095884716 p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] [OT] MS Exchange Alternative?
* Charles Marcus dovecot@dovecot.org: On 2012-12-04 9:20 AM, Jakob Curdes j...@info-systems.de wrote: Am 04.12.2012 15:15, schrieb Marc Perkel: Just wondering if there's an open source Linux alternative to MS Exchange so that all the features of outlook work? Did you have a look at zarafa? Most part of it is open source; the outlook connector ist closed source however and requires a license fee for more than three clients. It uses MAPI to connect to Outlook, unlike many other solutions that do calendar syncs etc. via the ActiveSync protocol. Zarafa is a completely different thing than dovecot, however; it stores all mails in a MySQL database. So does SOGo, no plugin required for Outlook. There is an extension for Thunderbird+Lightning, and it also supports most every mobile client out there and it uses Dovecot for the IMAP server *now*, and also includes OpenChange and Samba4. It is also supposed to be *very* lightweight, and can integrate with most any other backend you may be using. We currently use PostfixAdmin for managing email users, and we'll be able to happily keep using it for as long as we want after the migration. We've used SOGo for the last three years and we deployed it at various locations - starting from 3 up to 30.000 users. SOGo is stable, the company behind SOGo knows what they are doing. If you plan to migrate a SIEVE configuration you need scripting skills or you will end up adding them all by hand. SOGo currently stores SIEVE rules in its database and writes them into a .sieve on request. It's a one way road. That is actually the onle downside I can think of. We will be migrating to SOGo (using Thunderbird+Lightning+Google Calendar now) very soon, and we are fully expecting to leverage the fact that SOGo includes Samba4 in the future, so that when the time comes for another Microsoft Server Upgrade, we will instead 'upgrade' to Samba4, and demote our older 2008R2 servers to member servers - if we keep them around at all. +1 p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Android ICS stock client and IMAP Capability issue.
* Robert Schetterer r...@sys4.de: Am 08.11.2012 01:18, schrieb Massimiliano Cianelli: Yes, different teams, but I think Google is still a lot more reasonable company to deal with things like this than Microsoft. Although surprisingly even Microsoft appears to support SPECIAL-USE in the next Outlook(?) client. yeah it works, but they had bugged it for my last tests, mail in sent folder ( which is corect in use by SPECIAL-USE ) always stay unread, seems they have had design problems using now a standard outgoing folder, however there is a bug report about that and they anounced to fix it, but it isnt in my last tests after the last upgrade, if they dont fix it you cant use the sent folder via imap in a handy way , and you have to disable the feature in total ( this point was changed also ), and need to set this function via filter wizard like long time ago outlook versions needed it We could work around this with a SIEVE rule that marks the message 'read' when it is put into the Sent folder, couldn't we? p@rick -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Axel von der Ohe, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Joerg Heidrich
Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2013 imap specialuse RFC6154 XLIST
* Robert Schetterer rob...@schetterer.org:
Am 04.09.2012 10:30, schrieb Robert Schetterer:
Hi, perhaps somebody wants to this
--snip
Microsoft® Outlook® 2013 Preview
Outlook 2013 Preview implements the IMAP LIST extension specified in
[RFC6154] as the XLIST command.
---snip
taken out of [MS-STANOIMAP].pdf
which zip you may download here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee157124%28v=exchg.80%29
just for info, by small testing
Outlook 2013 preview imap specialuse is working with dovecot
at minimum for Trash and Sent
i have set this
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
auto=subscribe
}
mailbox Sent Messages {
special_use = \Sent
}
Why did you set the \Sent folder twice? Setting it once should suffice.
the preview is only in english or spanish
so dont know if it will work with other languages then english, lets hope so
Try this:
mailbox Gesendete Objekte {
special_use = \Sent
auto=subscribe
}
AFAIK the English version should automagically map itself to that folder.
p@rick
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Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2013 imap specialuse RFC6154 XLIST
* Robert Schetterer rob...@schetterer.org:
Am 05.09.2012 08:14, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter:
Try this:
mailbox Gesendete Objekte {
special_use = \Sent
auto=subscribe
}
i will do when Outlook 2013 in german got released
AFAIK the English version should automagically map itself to that folder.
agree ,it should
p@rick
thunderbirds status about xlist etc can be seen here
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558659
looks like , its on the road, from pure tec side
no idea if and when it will go released
It is implemented. We had to adapt a few extra functions to deal with 64 bit
stuff. Currently it is not being pushed further because of the uncertainty of
TBs future. Once it will become clear how new features will be released we
will spend the rest of money and time to ship the feature. For now I will not
spend a single more Euro.
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Re: [Dovecot] Special Folder Mocking
Eddy, * Eddy Ilg|univation eddy@univation.de: Dear Dovecot List, probably everyone knows the problem that different clients use different names for Sent, Trash and so on. A simple question: Isn't it possible to advertise one imap folder with different names, depending on the client? E.g. if the client is Outlook, show the Sent folder as Sent Elements (translated from german) and if the client is Thunderbird, show the Sent folder as Sent? the answer is the IMAP extension SPECIAL USE. We sponsored SPECIAL USE in Dovecot and in Thunderbird. Timo implemented it in Dovecot autumn 2011 and Ben Bucksch added SPECIAL USE support in Mozilla shortly after. Sadly Mozilla has decided to turn Thunderbird down - i.e. hand it over to some 'community' - and I am not sure our contribution it will be released as Mozilla claims they will not add any new features anymore. IF they would you could tell Dovecot to name the SPECIAL USE folders like Outlook expects them and Thunderbird to map its folder on top. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] v2.2 status update: IMAP NOTIFY extension and more
* Timo Sirainen dovecot@dovecot.org: I'm also considering implementing an SMTP submission server, which works only as a proxy to the real SMTP server. The benefits of it would mainly be: * It could support BURL command and other extensions required by LEMONADE. The real SMTP server would see only regular DATA commands. * Would make SMTP AUTH easy to implement regardless of what the real SMTP server is. Nice move! Especially since I recall Wietse being not very inclined to implement anything alike. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?
* fy f...@5dshu.com: what anti-spam for you used ? dspam?spammassian? amavisd-new ? what is best ? The best goes like this: 1. Decide if the SMTP client should be allowed to connect to the server 2. Decide if the client should be allowed to send the message 3. Decide if the message should be allowed to reach the recipient For 1 use e.g. 'postscreen' in Postfix. For 2 use SMTP session filters e.g. smtpd_..._restrictions in Postfix For 3 use a combination of content filters like SpamAssassin, ClamAV etc. In case you need to build some content policies e.g. recipient A may receive message, messages should never be spam filtered for B and C ... around the filters use amavisd-new, the content filter framework. It also brings features to manage filtered content e.g. quarantine, copy etc. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] what best for anti-spam filter?
People, this is a mailing list dedicated to Dovecot and the protocols POP, IMAP and MANAGESIEVE with the one or the other detour to storage. Greylisting and other Anti-Spam techniques, as discussed in this thread, truely are off-topic. Please take discussion offlist or to another list that deals with such stuff. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Preferred LDAP Attribute for home/mail location
* Edgar Fuß e...@math.uni-bonn.de: Is there, among the dovocot community, any preferred LDAP schema and attribute to use for setting the home/mail storage location? There are many. Here's another one: http://www.postfix-buch.com/download/postfix-book.schema.gz -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Hardware infrastructure for email system
Michael, * Michael Wessel mich...@think-for-yourself.org: I'm currently (re-)planning my email setup and have been doing some research. I have done some searches and read several threads in the areas of my questions here. While there are some that come close I haven't yet been able to get all my questions answered. I currently run a postfix, dovecot roundcube setup and have about 2000 active accounts. I have a separate SMTP server for outbound mail and auth is done against a separate LDAP server. In front of the POP/IMAP server I have another SMTP (4 in parallel actually) server that receives and filters inbound mail through a company specific, proprietary filter before the mail hits the POP/IMAP server. LDAP SMTP servers are ESXi VMs. Do people use 'real' mail clients to connect and IDLE too? So right now both dovecot and roundcube run on the same box which is a Dell PE2950 with dual quad-core Xeon, 16GB RAM and 6 1TB disks in RAID 6, so only local storage using maildir. So far it's been holding up fine, but it's beginning to show signs of overload now. I also expect an increase in users over the next few months up to somewhere between 10 - 20,000 mail boxes. Hence the re-planning. My first priority in redesigning my setup is reliability. I definitely need something fail-save and as close to always on as possible. Next is performance. And while the budget is of course limited for the moment I'm setting that aside and will worry about that when the time comes. Now here is my question(s): In order to support up to 20,000 mailboxes (distributed over several times-zones so they won't all be used at the same time) with a very reliable service with good performance, what do I actually need? Do I need(ul) SAN or is it just a would be nice to have? If yes, why and what would be appropriate for my needs? Or will a setup with a few more servers like the ones I already have, using something like DRBD and distributing services (imap, http, spamd etc) onto different boxes do? Will the server enforce quota? What will be the average mailbox size? Do people share content e.g. mailings with attachments that go out to all recipients? What might be the maximum number of clients using the server at one time? Will all users use the same client product e.g. roundcube? What's your backup strategy? What do you use to backup mailboxes? p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] how to use new style namespace for INBOX
* ml dovecot@dovecot.org:
dear honorable doctor timo
reading the list I saw appear a new style for the writing of INBOX.
namely this example
mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Sent Messages {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Trash {
special_use = \Trash
}
prefix =
This 'new' type of writing defines mailboxes for SPECIAL-USE as defined in
http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6154.txt.
I do not know how to use it can you help me now is my config
If your mail clients support it, they will automatically map their mailboxes
for Sent, Junk, Trash, Drafts etc. to whatever mailbox you have assigned the
respective $special_use option to.
If they don't nothing will change.
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Re: [Dovecot] Import from Evolution
* Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net: I need to import the mail database generated by the evolution mail reader into dovecot. Evolution stores its mail in maildir format (fully standards compatible, I think); I would be using the maildir format in dovecot. Is there anything in the wiki, etc. explaining exactly how to do this? Why do this? Evolution is hopelessly broken, and is not likely to be fixed in the forseeable future, and I would like to keep my mails in maildir form. Reviews of kmail are very bad, and thunderbird uses the mbox format for storage. If it is native maildir you can configure that/your account to use maildir and simply copy your mailbox over to Dovecot. When Dovecot accesses the mailbox it will create the necessary index files and you are ready to use it. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Import from Evolution
* Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net: On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 22:16 +0200, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net: I need to import the mail database generated by the evolution mail reader into dovecot. Evolution stores its mail in maildir format (fully standards compatible, I think); I would be using the maildir format in dovecot. Is there anything in the wiki, etc. explaining exactly how to do this? Why do this? Evolution is hopelessly broken, and is not likely to be fixed in the forseeable future, and I would like to keep my mails in maildir form. Reviews of kmail are very bad, and thunderbird uses the mbox format for storage. If it is native maildir you can configure that/your account to use maildir and simply copy your mailbox over to Dovecot. When Dovecot accesses the mailbox it will create the necessary index files and you are ready to use it. Sounds good. I'm sure than when you write mailbox, you mean the folders (and not the index files) in the evolution mail database, located at Yes, I mean the folders and not the index files ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local and whose contents start: $ ls -lA ..#evolution.Junk.cmeta.jango.ibex.index.data ..#evolution.Trash.cmeta .jfour/ ..cmeta.jfour.cmeta ..maildir++.jfour.ibex.index .Drafts/ .jfour.ibex.index.data .Drafts.cmeta .joer/ .Outbox/ .joer.cmeta .Outbox.cmeta .joyce/ ... and not $MAIL, i.e. /var/spool/mail/jonrysh, where mail arrives on the system (via fetchmail and local sendmail). I don't mean $MAIL. Please excuse me for double checking; evolution has archived 218,886 messages in 132 folders, and I want to avoid trouble if possible. I am a friend of double checking. :) p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
[Dovecot] dovecot stats: useful data to gather
Timo, following our discussion on dovecot stats at the LinuxTag 2012 my team and I sat down and put together a list of stat items we think to be useful in daily dovecot usage. Besides pulling together all the data we also think it would be useful to have an SNMP interface to access the stats. Our offer to create and contribute a standalone web interface for dovecot stats stands. Here are the stats we believe to be useful: Login/Logout - total number login success/time - total number login failure/time - total number per authentication mechanism - total number plain sessions - total number STARTTLS sessions - total number of currently connected users (pop3/pop3s/imap/imaps/managesieve) - login names of connected users (not really stats, but great for actions regarding those uses e.g. force logout) - total number logout commands/time - total number BYE responses (autologout) Mailbox state - Inflow rate (number incoming messages/time) - Deleted rate (number \Deleted flagged messages/time) - Expunge rate (number Expunge operations/time) - total number current messages mailboxes normal storage - total number current messages mailboxes alt storage - total number read messages mailboxes normal storage - total number read messages mailboxes alt storage - per user number current messages mailboxes normal storage - per user number current messages mailboxes alt storage - per user number read messages mailboxes normal storage - per user number read messages mailboxes alt storage Mailbox Quota - total number persons under soft-quota per quota - total number persons above or equal soft-quota per quota - total number persons above or equal hard-quota per quota Performance - minimum time to write a message - maximum time to write a message - average time to write a message - minimum time to modify a message - maximum time to modify a message - average time to modify a message - minimum time to delete a message - maximum time to delete a message - average time to delete a message - minimum time search operations - maximum time search operations - average time search operations Regards, p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] dovecot stats: useful data to gather
* Timo Sirainen dovecot@dovecot.org: On 1.6.2012, at 23.58, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: Besides pulling together all the data we also think it would be useful to have an SNMP interface to access the stats. I had thought about SNMP before also, but for the current kind of stats that are exported I couldn't think of any reasonable way to export them. I am not an expert on SNMP, others in my office are, but as I understand it there's no need for Dovecot to export the data. AFAIK Dovecot would have to offer a subagent, which could be queried by a SNMP server. If we need more knowledge on SNMP I can ask my folks on the team to give some guidance. For the moment I found this: http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/TUT:Writing_a_Subagent Here are the stats we believe to be useful: Login/Logout - total number login success/time - total number login failure/time .. I'll look at these later in more detail, but some important questions / design decisions: Currently stats process only remembers things after Dovecot was started. I don't think getting these kind of numbers would really work like that. Perhaps all of the statistics should be permanently dumped to disk every ~minute or so + at shutdown and loaded at startup, so the numbers would at least normally always just increase since the first time Dovecot was started? ACK. My understanding is: Statistical data are moments in time. The application provides these snapshots. It is up to other protocols (e.g. SNMP) and software (e.g. RRD) to gather and create time series and also to relate data to each other in order to come up with ratios, timelines etc. This might be a good opportunity to check out Howard's MDB database (in order to get around potential future law suits concerning BDB usage ...). http://highlandsun.com/hyc/mdb/ Mailbox state - Inflow rate (number incoming messages/time) - Deleted rate (number \Deleted flagged messages/time) These operations/time type of things I had hoped to be able to externalize :) If stats process simply gives the raw stats, the reader could do this kind of summing up. Otherwise .. well, I guess it could maybe keep track of the current ops/last 60 secs and the reader would then have to read the value about once a minute or half or something. It wouldn't give exact results though. ACK. I'd externalize them too. So dump the /time aspect and only give raw data at moment of query. Performance - minimum time to write a message - maximum time to write a message - average time to write a message Within last .. day? hour? minute? .. Concerning message write time: the time the last message had to be written. In general the stats update interval should be configurable in order to adapt it to the overall system performance. Makes no sense to bring down the server by gathering stats every nano second unless one likes self-induced DOS. ;) It would probably be a useful strategy to update internal data on every event and answer SNMP queries from memory but write the data to disc every once in a while to have them when the server restarts. Besides that I don't see a use case for sharing such data between processes such as exporting them to memcache or anything alike. Do you? p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Getting Postfix Admin's DB to work with Postfix's/Dovecot's MySQL DB
* Antoine Nguyen ngu.anto...@gmail.com: You can take a look at Modoboa (http://modoboa.org/). It includes a web user interface to create users and a simple webmail. The upcoming 0.9 release will have great UI improvements over previous versions. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP STARTTLS Problem
* Markus Fritz mar...@opsys.de: Am 07.05.2012 09:56, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter: * Markus Fritzmar...@opsys.de: Am 06.05.2012 20:57, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter: * mar...@opsys.demar...@opsys.de: Yep, I set the rights for the cert in Thunderbird. With this CERT SSL is working in Thunderbird but not with STARTTLS. 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 1 BAD TLS not available due to temporary reason Your server responds it has a temporary problem. Set the server verbose to get more useful log output. Now I got this: May 6 22:38:35 opsys dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=84.150.37.251, lip=78.46.216.126, TLS: SSL_read() failed: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca What have I to do now? The cert is signed by myself. You need to import your CAs certificate into TB. p@rick I imported the .pem public file, it's there and I set the trust status in Thunderbird. It still won't work. Screenshot: http://snpr.cm/hLClYx.png This looks like your server certificate and not like your CA certificate. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP STARTTLS Problem
* mar...@opsys.de mar...@opsys.de: Am 05.05.2012 22:44, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter: * Markus Fritz markus.fr...@opsys.de: Am 05.05.2012 21:06, schrieb Markus Fritz: Assuming your server cert is located in /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt try this on your server: openssl s_client -starttls imap -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt -connect localhost:143 Use 2 logout to get out of the session. If it works, try the same from your client host. Does it work both times? yes: Verify return code: 0 (ok) --- . OK Capability completed. it works. But I cannot login with Thunderbird. I imported the cert in Thunderbird, too. IIRC it is not enough to import the cert. You also need to set a policy i.e. allow the cert to be used for e-mail. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP STARTTLS Problem
* mar...@opsys.de mar...@opsys.de: Yep, I set the rights for the cert in Thunderbird. With this CERT SSL is working in Thunderbird but not with STARTTLS. 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 1 BAD TLS not available due to temporary reason Your server responds it has a temporary problem. Set the server verbose to get more useful log output. p@rick P.S. And please keep this thread onlist. That's the message I get from Thunderbird. And that's the hole log: 4440[af7d580]: ImapThreadMainLoop entering [this=bcde800] 0[c0f140]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:SetupWithUrl: clearing IMAP_CONNECTION_IS_OPEN 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:ProcessCurrentURL: entering 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:ProcessCurrentURL:imap://markus%40opsys%2...@mail.opsys.de:143/select%3E.INBOX: = currentUrl 4440[af7d580]: ReadNextLine [stream=bc59ca8 nb=118 needmore=0] 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN] Dovecot ready. 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:SendData: 1 STARTTLS 4440[af7d580]: ReadNextLine [stream=bc59ca8 nb=49 needmore=0] 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: 1 BAD TLS not available due to temporary reason 4440[af7d580]: try to log in 4440[af7d580]: IMAP auth: server caps 0x4405427, pref 0x1006, failed 0x0, avail caps 0x1006 4440[af7d580]: (GSSAPI = 0x100, CRAM = 0x2, NTLM = 0x10, MSN = 0x20, PLAIN = 0x1000, LOGIN = 0x2, old-style IMAP login = 0x4)auth external IMAP login = 0x2000 4440[af7d580]: trying auth method 0x1000 4440[af7d580]: got new password 4440[af7d580]: IMAP: trying auth method 0x1000 4440[af7d580]: PLAIN auth 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:SendData: 2 authenticate plain 4440[af7d580]: ReadNextLine [stream=bc59ca8 nb=4294967295 needmore=0] 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: clearing IMAP_CONNECTION_IS_OPEN - rv = 80470002 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:TellThreadToDie: close socket connection 4440[af7d580]: bcde800:mail.opsys.de:NA:CreateNewLineFromSocket: (null) 4440[af7d580]: authlogin failed 4440[af7d580]: marking auth method 0x1000 failed 4440[af7d580]: IMAP auth: server caps 0x4405427, pref 0x1006, failed 0x1000, avail caps 0x6 4440[af7d580]: (GSSAPI = 0x100, CRAM = 0x2, NTLM = 0x10, MSN = 0x20, PLAIN = 0x1000, LOGIN = 0x2, old-style IMAP login = 0x4)auth external IMAP login = 0x2000 4440[af7d580]: trying auth method 0x2 4440[af7d580]: login failed entirely -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP STARTTLS Problem
* Markus Fritz markus.fr...@opsys.de: Am 05.05.2012 21:06, schrieb Markus Fritz: Hello, I have this problem: May 5 21:02:35 opsys dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected (no auth attempts): rip=84.150.52.31, lip=78.46.216.126 Connecting via Thunderbird to STARTTLS won't work, but with a website from the same server it works for tls://opsys.de. So why is the port closed for external ip's? IPTABLES entry for imap is this: fail2ban-dovecot-pop3imap tcp -- anywhere anywhere multiport dports pop3,pop3s,imap2,imaps Key files are correct TLS is working from localhost. System is Debian squeeze Thunderbird says 'tls not available due temporary reason' now. Assuming your server cert is located in /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt try this on your server: openssl s_client -starttls imap -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt -connect localhost:143 Use 2 logout to get out of the session. If it works, try the same from your client host. Does it work both times? p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Bug tracker
* Antoine Nguyen ngu.anto...@gmail.com: I started thinking that perhaps I should move my TODO list to a bug tracker. But because of reasons I've explained a few times before, I don't want a full blown public bug tracking system. The requirements for it are: * I am the only person who can add new bugs. Everyone else reports bugs/requests to this mailing list as before. (Well, I guess Stephan could use this as well if he wants to.) * Everyone can comment existing bugs. * Dovecot mailing list integration: Commenting a bug sends a mail to the mailing list. Replies to those comments go back to bug tracker (probably based on some [#1234] tag in subject). I would have the option of adding a comment that doesn't go to the mailing list (= adding some internal comment that nobody else cares about). Notifications about new bugs won't go to the mailing list (most likely it was created due to a recent mailing list post). So the main difference to how things work now is that people would be able to easily browse existing bugs and add comments to them. I would add bugs there only when I'm not planning on fixing them within a few days. I wouldn't add each and every feature request there, only the things that I'm actually interested in developing. So the idea would be to actually get the bug tracker emptied at some point, not to be a graveyard of unimportant feature requests that about 1-2 people in the world would want. So, any suggestions for what software could do these things? I think Request Tracker has those features, but it's not really the nicest/prettiest thing. Maybe Redmine ? (http://www.redmine.org/ It's more than just a bug tracker but I think it answers your needs. +1 We moved from trac to redmine about a year ago and still are very happy about it. Our non-technical customers can deal with it well. Redmine allows to hide projects and it knows the concept of sub-projects. It's versatile in terms of repositories (mercurial supported) and ticket handling is fine too. Sometimes I miss a more comfortable wiki editor, but that's a minor tradeoff. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] problem to configuration dovecot and postfix
* Thomas Leuxner dovecot@dovecot.org: On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 04:48:45PM +0900, Akihiko Sato wrote: # postconf -n: mydestination = qbu.example.com, qbu, localhost.localdomain, localhost http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html [...] NEVER list a virtual MAILBOX domain name as a mydestination domain! ... unless you know what you do and wish to benefit from the side-effects. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[Dovecot] Modifying LDAP search results for user_attrs
I need to authenticate users via LDAP either by mailaddress or login name. In both cases the mailbox location is /src/mail/%d/%n. I can easily deduct that path from the mailaddress, but not so from the login name. Can I get the mail address as part of fetching user_attrs and modify it on the fly? Something along the lines of this: user_attrs = mail:/srv/mail/%d/%n=home,uidNumber=uid,gidNumber=gid Or would I be able to modify this with a post-login script? p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Lack of external documentation?
* Jerry dovecot@dovecot.org: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:27:37 -0400 Terry Carmen articulated: On 03/15/2012 03:06 PM, Steve Campbell wrote: Firstly, this isn't meant to be critical, and I realize the subject line probably suggest criticism, so... I was sort of forced into using dovecot as my imap/pop server due to upgrading 3 versions of OS on my mail servers. So far, that's not bad. What surprises me is that one of the first things I usually do whenever I start using different software is to purchase a book that seems to suit me. Searching all of the common places like amazon, ebay, etc for manuals turned up little to nothing on dovecot. I'm wondering why and is this so new that people just haven't written books about it yet? The one thing I'm a little critical of, though, is that trying to make heads or tails of dovecot by following the online documentation is a little problematic. I'm constantly jumping to another page and then back to the original page, and for the most part, I just don't know enough about it all yet to know what I'm looking for. The best docs are on the wiki and this mailing list. If you find the information in the wiki to be lacking, the best thing you can do is find the solution yourself and/or on this mailing list, and then make a wiki entry so the next person will know how to solve the same problem you had. Dovecot is a complex piece of software, and understanding some functionality requires reading the wiki, asking on the mailing list and/or examining the source code. You can also obtain paid support from these companies: http://dovecot.org/support.html I'll be the first to admit that complex and specialized configurations are sometimes difficult to figure out, however this list has always been a tremendous amount of help. The lack of truly informative documentation has been the Achilles' heel of open-source software since its inception. I feel your pain. I have always loved a hard copy, i.e. book documenting the subject I am studying. Jumping from screen to screen sucks, plus how do I highlight a passage on the monitor for future reference? There have been a few books written to document Postfix, but to the best of my knowledge, none exist for Dovecot. Dovecot is a moving target and it is hard to produce any print that represents what Dovecot can do when the print finally will be released. I know, because I am one of the two authors who wrote The Book of Postfix and we found it hard if almost impossible to keep up with Wietse's pace when he wrote major parts of Postfix. For now, I believe, the wiki and the mailing list is as good as it gets. Later when Dovecot settles a book might be something to write and something to spend money on because it lasts for a while. man pages would be a good thing, but given Dovecots configuration syntax and flexibility this might be an even harder task. Its probably easier to describe certain aspects of configuration or use cases than list all options and their possible occurences. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] testing fts-solr?
On 04.03.2012 23:29, Stan Hoeppner wrote: snip / not worth discussing seems a bit naive, or arrogant, or both. Given how long it takes, never in some cases, for Mozilla to fix IMAP related problems in TBird, you can't blame the OP for looking in other directions for a solution. Note the bug I filed 2+ years on broken IMAP custom header search: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546925 2 years later and it's not even been assigned to a dev... We started buying features/fixes. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Dovecot] testing fts-solr?
Stan, * Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com: On 3/4/2012 4:47 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: On 04.03.2012 23:29, Stan Hoeppner wrote: snip / not worth discussing seems a bit naive, or arrogant, or both. Given how long it takes, never in some cases, for Mozilla to fix IMAP related problems in TBird, you can't blame the OP for looking in other directions for a solution. Note the bug I filed 2+ years on broken IMAP custom header search: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546925 2 years later and it's not even been assigned to a dev... We started buying features/fixes. Does Mozilla have a page listing such services and prices, err, required/expected donation amounts? to my knowledge they don't have a page listing services and prices. Recently they discussed pros and cons of crowd sourcing, but without much progress. I can get you in contact with one of the TB programmers, who implemented features for us, if you want to. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
[Dovecot] ANN: automx - automated mail account provisioning
automx I am pleased to announce automx a tool that makes setting up a mail account easy. All your users need to provide is real name, mail address and password. Their mail client and automx will safely handle the rest. Say goodbye to mistyped server settings! Put an end to endless phone calls trying to coach users to configure settings, whose dialogs they can't find. Raise user satisfaction, relieve support and regain time to work on other issues. automx unifies Microsofts and Mozillas mail account provisioning standards in one powerful Open Source tool. Choose from many backends, including LDAP and SQL, and let automx create standard and individualized profiles for multiple domains on the fly! See the details on http://automx.org. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Dovecot] doveadm + dsync merging
* Timo Sirainen dovecot@dovecot.org: doveadm already supports some nice things, such as being able to remotely launch a doveadm command via TCP socket. It also supports executing a command for all users or to some specific users using a wildcard. dsync could use these features, so I merged dsync and doveadm into same binary for v2.1. I'll still install dsync symlink pointing to doveadm, and running that way it should be fully backwards compatible with the old dsync binary and its parameters. I'm mainly now wondering about the command naming for running dsync via doveadm. Any suggestions? a) Use doveadm dsync prefix, and otherwise keep the names same: dsync mirror - doveadm dsync mirror dsync backup - doveadm dsync backup dsync server - doveadm dsync server (for running dsync remotely via ssh/etc.) b) Don't have the dsync prefix: dsync mirror - doveadm mirror dsync backup - doveadm backup dsync server - doveadm dsync-server (could be hidden from the doveadm commands list) Calling the old dsync command (symlink) directly should keep the already established command structure. Calling dsync features over doveadm should keep command structure as simple (not complex) as possible. I favour b) for that and rename 'mirror' to 'sync'. 'sync' keeps in line with products such as rsync. People will immediately know what it does. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Dovolená
* Ron Leach dovecot@dovecot.org: On 22/12/2011 23:11, pa...@valbek.cz wrote: Dobrý den, od 23.12. do 30.12. jsem na dovolené. V pÅ™ÃpadÄ› nutnosti volejte na mobil. S pozdravem Ladislav, sure, we'll reach you on your mobile if we need you. Enjoy the break; will you be doing some ski-ing? Thanks for the translation! :) p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Problem listing SPECIAL-USE flags
* Michael M Slusarz slus...@curecanti.org: Quoting Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de: we want to implement SPECIAL-USE in Thunderbird (TB), but we've run into problems. I believe you could help change that. Here's the problem: By default TB only lists subscribed (LSUB) folders when it accesses an IMAP server. However when I do a LSUB on recent Dovecot 2.1 code from mercurial I don't get to see the SPECIAL-USE flags. Therefore TB fails to identify which folders it should use and map to until someone tells it to list all folders (LIST) manually. Central part of the SPECIAL-USE idea was/is to require as little user interaction as possible to automatically setup a MUA to do the right thing. Speculating that probably most MUAs will do a LSUB by default and never will get to see SPECIAL-USE flags I think it is easier to have the server-side promote the flags. Except you never, never, never, never, never can rely on LSUB for mailbox attributes. It says so right in RFC 3501 [6.3.9]: The returned untagged LSUB response MAY contain different mailbox flags from a LIST untagged response. If this should happen, the flags in the untagged LIST are considered more authoritative. See also RFC 5258 [3.1], which discusses the difference between the base RFC 3501 LSUB command and the LIST-EXTENDED SUBSCRIBED option: This option is intended to supplement the LSUB command. Of particular note are the mailbox attributes as returned by this option, compared with what is returned by LSUB. With the latter, the attributes returned may not reflect the actual attribute status on the mailbox name, and the \NoSelect attribute has a second special meaning (it indicates that this mailbox is not, itself, subscribed, but that it has descendant mailboxes that are). With the SUBSCRIBED selection option described here, the attributes are accurate and complete, and have no special meanings. LSUB and LIST (SUBSCRIBED) are, thus, not the same thing, and some servers must do significant extra work to respond to LIST (SUBSCRIBED). Because of this, clients SHOULD continue to use LSUB unless they specifically want the additional information offered by LIST (SUBSCRIBED). Thanks for the clarification. I did some reading to get a better understanding. We'll probably stick with this and may go for LIST if the server does not announce LIST-EXTENTED: t2 LIST % RETURN (SPECIAL-USE) * LIST (\Sent) . AltSent * LIST () . Archives * LIST (\Archive) . AltArchive * LIST (\Junk) . AltJunk * LIST () . Junk * LIST (\Trash) . AltTrash * LIST (\Drafts) . AltDrafts * LIST () . Trash * LIST () . INBOX t2 OK List completed. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Problem listing SPECIAL-USE flags
* Charles Marcus dovecot@dovecot.org: On 2011-12-21 2:42 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de wrote: Thanks for the clarification. I did some reading to get a better understanding. We'll probably stick with this and may go for LIST if the server does not announce LIST-EXTENTED So... out of curoisity, does dovecot support LIST-EXTENDED? Yes, it does. See the full session below: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=CRAM-MD5] Dovecot 2.1 ready. 1 login al...@example.com secret 1 OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS FUZZY SPECIAL-USE] Logged in t2 LIST % RETURN (SPECIAL-USE) * LIST (\Sent) . AltSent * LIST () . Archives * LIST (\Archive) . AltArchive * LIST (\Junk) . AltJunk * LIST () . Junk * LIST (\Trash) . AltTrash * LIST (\Drafts) . AltDrafts * LIST () . Trash * LIST () . INBOX t2 OK List completed. t3 logout * BYE Logging out t3 OK Logout completed. -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Problem listing SPECIAL-USE flags
Timo, if I read the specs correctly http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6154#section-5.2 says the following command should work too: C: t3 LIST (SPECIAL-USE) * S: * LIST (\Sent) / SentMail S: * LIST (\Marked \Drafts) / MyDrafts S: * LIST (\Trash) / Trash S: t3 OK done However if I send that command it fails: t2 LIST (SPECIAL-USE) * t2 BAD Error in IMAP command LIST: Unknown select options Is that a bug or was a decision on purpose? p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
[Dovecot] Problem listing SPECIAL-USE flags
Timo,
we want to implement SPECIAL-USE in Thunderbird (TB), but we've run into
problems. I believe you could help change that.
Here's the problem:
By default TB only lists subscribed (LSUB) folders when it accesses an IMAP
server. However when I do a LSUB on recent Dovecot 2.1 code from mercurial I
don't get to see the SPECIAL-USE flags. Therefore TB fails to identify which
folders it should use and map to until someone tells it to list all folders
(LIST) manually.
Central part of the SPECIAL-USE idea was/is to require as little user
interaction as possible to automatically setup a MUA to do the right thing.
Speculating that probably most MUAs will do a LSUB by default and never will
get to see SPECIAL-USE flags I think it is easier to have the server-side
promote the flags.
Do you think that would be possible?
Just to verify I configured Dovecot as you would expect for SPECIAL-USE:
I've set Dovecot 2.1 to autocreate and autosubscribe SPECIAL-USE mailboxes
like this:
namespace inbox {
...
mailbox AltDrafts {
special_use = \Drafts
auto = subscribe
}
...
}
This is what I get:
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE
AUTH=PLAIN AUTH=LOGIN AUTH=CRAM-MD5] Dovecot 2.1 ready.
t1 login al...@example.com secret
t1 OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE
SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT CHILDREN
NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT
SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS FUZZY SPECIAL-USE] Logged in
t2 LSUB %
* LSUB () . Trash
* LSUB () . AltDrafts
* LSUB () . AltSent
* LSUB () . Archives
* LSUB () . AltTrash
* LSUB () . AltJunk
* LSUB () . AltArchive
* LSUB () . Junk
t2 OK Lsub completed.
t3 LIST %
* LIST (\HasNoChildren \Sent) . AltSent
* LIST (\HasChildren) . Archives
* LIST (\HasNoChildren \Archive) . AltArchive
* LIST (\HasNoChildren \Junk) . AltJunk
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) . Junk
* LIST (\HasNoChildren \Trash) . AltTrash
* LIST (\HasNoChildren \Drafts) . AltDrafts
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) . Trash
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) . INBOX
t3 OK List completed.
t4 logout
* BYE Logging out
t4 OK Logout completed.
Connection closed by foreign host.
Thanks,
p@rick
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Re: [Dovecot] IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
Am 06.12.2011 10:39, schrieb Peter Mogensen:
On 2011-12-02 22:22, dovecot-requ...@dovecot.org wrote:
It's implemented now in dovecot-2.1 hg. It also deprecates autocreate
plugin (but it still works the old way). The idea is that you can now
do e.g.:
mailbox Trash {
auto = no
special_use = \Trash
}
...
This is great Timo.
But for solving the localization problem for special-use folders, it's
only half the way.
Are there any plans to support RFC5464 SETMETADATA, so individual
users can name their \Trash folder Skraldspand in danish or what
ever they prefer?
I believe setting the name should be a mapping that takes place in the MUA.
p@
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Re: [Dovecot] IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
* A.L.E.C a...@alec.pl: On 06.12.2011 11:29, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: Are there any plans to support RFC5464 SETMETADATA, so individual users can name their \Trash folder Skraldspand in danish or what ever they prefer? Now I see in the hg that Timo doesn't implemented this nor CREATE-SPECIAL-USE. So, it's not so nice as I thought ;) There is metadata plugin. Should it be extended to support this? I believe setting the name should be a mapping that takes place in the MUA. We have RFC6154 for this, don't try to be smarter. From my understanding RFC 6154 serves to flag some IMAP mailboxes in order to indicate they should be used for special use e.g. as trash folder etc. I fail to see how RFC 6154 would help displaying localized mailbox names. Please point out. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
* A.L.E.C a...@alec.pl: On 06.12.2011 13:43, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: From my understanding RFC 6154 serves to flag some IMAP mailboxes in order to indicate they should be used for special use e.g. as trash folder etc. I fail to see how RFC 6154 would help displaying localized mailbox names. Ok. It will not help for existing folders, but will allow creation of special-use folders with any name. Yes. And on top of that a MUA should detect these SPECIAL-USE folders and automagically map its special folders (trash, archive, sent, drafts, etc.) to the servers SPECIAL-USE mailboxes. This should take place transparently and the special folders should carry localized mailbox names e.g. Sent or Gesendet or ... At least that was my motivation to initiate that RFC about two years ago and getting closer to that goal was the reason to sponsor this feature in Dovecot 2.1. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
* Timo Sirainen dovecot@dovecot.org:
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 17:12 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote:
The mailbox names require a namespace prefix, so if you use e.g. INBOX.
prefix you'll need to use:
I changed these so that they are inside namespace {} section and don't
require namespace prefix in the name. That way I can include common
mailbox definitions in example-config and still allow the namespace
prefix to be easily changed.
I'm anyway now wondering what the defaults should be? Could someone
check what these defaults are for Outlook and any other clients you
have:
* Drafts is used by all clients
* Trash is used by all clients
* Junk is used by all clients? Or is Spam used by some?
* Sent is used by Thunderbird, Evolution
* Sent Messages is used by Apple Mail
So I'm mainly wondering about Sent vs. Sent Messages.
Are you looking for US-English mailbox names only?
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Re: [Dovecot] IMAP SPECIAL-USE extension
* Michael M Slusarz slus...@curecanti.org: Quoting Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de: * A.L.E.C a...@alec.pl: On 06.12.2011 13:43, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: From my understanding RFC 6154 serves to flag some IMAP mailboxes in order to indicate they should be used for special use e.g. as trash folder etc. I fail to see how RFC 6154 would help displaying localized mailbox names. Ok. It will not help for existing folders, but will allow creation of special-use folders with any name. Yes. And on top of that a MUA should detect these SPECIAL-USE folders and automagically map its special folders (trash, archive, sent, drafts, etc.) to the servers SPECIAL-USE mailboxes. This should take place transparently and the special folders should carry localized mailbox names e.g. Sent or Gesendet or ... Except the localization conversions should be done on the MUA level, not the mailstore level (see, e.g., INBOX). I believe that is exactly what I said in my lines above. As Timo noted in another message in this thread, for the most part there has been a informal standardization of special mailbox names to their English equivalents. There is really no reason to move away from this standardization, especially for MUAs that do not yet Where in my posting did I say I want to move away from that standard? support RFC 6154 but may support a form auto-detection of common special mailbox names. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] MUAs creating different Sent folders
* Robert Schetterer rob...@schetterer.org: Am 29.11.2011 23:17, schrieb Michael M Slusarz: Quoting Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de: * Ralf Hildebrandt dovecot@dovecot.org: While our webmail installation creates Sent as a Sent-Items Folder, Apple Mail creates Sent Messages. Is there a way of mapping foldernames e.g. map Sent Messages to Sent map Deletes Messages to Trash and so on? There's an RFC, but it hasn't been adopted yet. Neither by IMAP servers nor by IMAP clients. ;) Not true. We've (IMP) had special-use (RFC 6154) support since August 2010. Offhand, I know that serverwise Cyrus 2.5 supports RFC 6154. michael what helps this, tb, outlook, apple mail, winmail and some mobile clients must follow , this is what people use, and it will take years after some of them might upgrade What helps this == Was hilft es? TB has it on the CR list. Apple has their own X-LIST feature together with google. p@rick -- Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer Germany/Munich/Bavaria -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] MUAs creating different Sent folders
* Robert Schetterer rob...@schetterer.org: Am 30.11.2011 09:21, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter: * Robert Schetterer rob...@schetterer.org: Am 29.11.2011 23:17, schrieb Michael M Slusarz: Quoting Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de: There's an RFC, but it hasn't been adopted yet. Neither by IMAP servers nor by IMAP clients. ;) Not true. We've (IMP) had special-use (RFC 6154) support since August 2010. Offhand, I know that serverwise Cyrus 2.5 supports RFC 6154. michael what helps this, tb, outlook, apple mail, winmail and some mobile clients must follow , this is what people use, and it will take years after some of them might upgrade What helps this == Was hilft es? TB has it on the CR list. Apple has their own X-LIST feature together with google. cool, *g left another hundred clients however having this widly solved would be a dream why i did take so long for it.., its a Problem since years Yes, it is a problem, but having a standard doesn't solve it and open source software is not a guarant to have it implemented either, unless you contribute the code yourself or get to sponsor someone to do it. BTW: We'd contribute € 500 if Timo implemented RFC 6154 in Dovecot 2.1. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] MUAs creating different Sent folders
* Ralf Hildebrandt dovecot@dovecot.org: While our webmail installation creates Sent as a Sent-Items Folder, Apple Mail creates Sent Messages. Is there a way of mapping foldernames e.g. map Sent Messages to Sent map Deletes Messages to Trash and so on? There's an RFC, but it hasn't been adopted yet. Neither by IMAP servers nor by IMAP clients. ;) p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] MUAs creating different Sent folders
* Michael M Slusarz slus...@curecanti.org: Quoting Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de: * Ralf Hildebrandt dovecot@dovecot.org: While our webmail installation creates Sent as a Sent-Items Folder, Apple Mail creates Sent Messages. Is there a way of mapping foldernames e.g. map Sent Messages to Sent map Deletes Messages to Trash and so on? There's an RFC, but it hasn't been adopted yet. Neither by IMAP servers nor by IMAP clients. ;) Not true. We've (IMP) had special-use (RFC 6154) support since August 2010. Offhand, I know that serverwise Cyrus 2.5 supports RFC 6154. Very nice. Thanks for the update. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot SASL on another machine
* Timo Sirainen dovecot@dovecot.org: On Sat, 2011-11-05 at 15:13 +0100, Tobias Hachmer wrote: is there a way to use Dovecot SASL Authentication for submission on a different machine dovecot runs? With v2.0 you should be able to add inet_listener for auth service, which acts as an auth-client socket. Dovecot machine - postfix machine(for submission) Looking at Postfix v2.8.0 code, looks like Postfix also supports it. Document it and Wietse will support it on the mailing list. If its not documented support will be declined. Should I? p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] Difference between LOGIN and PLAIN
* Simon Brereton simon.brere...@buongiorno.com: Could someone explain to me the difference between LOGIN and PLAIN? In SMTP these are: Both - are plaintext mechanisms. - base64 encode identification data before they send it over the wire - do not encrypt the indentification data and should therefore only be offered over an encrypted transport layer PLAIN - is an open standard supported by most clients - sends identification data as one string - sends an authentication ID, an authorization ID and the password LOGIN - is a proprietary standard supported by Microsofts clients - sends LOGIN, login name, password and optionally the domain name one after another I guess they are basically the same in IMAP, but others will know better. p@rick I've been googling for a while, but haven't found anything. Thanks. Simon -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] dsync should sync sieve-dirs to!
* Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl: On 31-10-2011 11:29, Robert Schetterer wrote: hm, idea , any chance to feed sieve rules in a database backend or ldap etc so it would be part of backing up the db/dir service That is on the TODO list. However, this is not high-priority. You might want to find out how SOGo http://www.sogo.nu stores sieve rules in SQL. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] SASL
* Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com: i am looking for a pop3 server and would like to know dovecot pop3 closer. In my current infra structure all my users have a single login and one password. I have been authenticating unix, web, ldap, smtp against saslauthd server. It is possible to have dovecot pop3 authenticate by contacting saslauthd too ? No, but Dovecot can lookup users in LDAP, authenticaten and authorize them. Another question: All my user information are keeped inside LDAP using qmail.schema. Can dovecot pop3 look into ldap an return information about user mail directory, etc ? Yes, it can and it is very flexible. Either you only lookup a few items and derive the rest from standard settings configured in Dovecot or you have Dovecot lookup everything in LDAP. In any case you simply map the LDAP attributes to Dovecot atttributes as you need it. Once you understood it (it's not too complicated) it's even fun. ;) p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] SASL
* Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com: Ok! can dovecot do keberos password verification (yes, that's it, password verification and not GSSAPI with tickets) ? Please take a look at http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Authentication/Kerberos. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] SASL
* Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com: Thanks it is what i want, kerberos plaintext authentication. But wait, i am running OpenBSD. There is no pam_krb5 for openbsd. Is there any other means ? I am not an OpenBSD guy. Maybe someone else can share experiences. p@rick -- state of mind () http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] WiKi V2
* nick+dove...@bunbun.be nick+dove...@bunbun.be: Jim Knuth wrote: small question: Will the WiKi of the version 2 be updated shortly? Many things are not right at all. This would be really very nice. Many thanks in advance. It's a Wiki... feel free to correct :-) You don't want Jim to correct the Wiki. Not because he's braindead - I know him personally and I value him a lot - but because of his English. Take a look at the threads he's been in recently on this list. ;) p@rick -- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] doveadm
* Patrick Domack patric...@patrickdk.com: It doesn't exist. doveadm belongs in dovecot 2.x, but ubuntu only has 1.x versions. Try Christians builds: https://launchpad.net/~christian-roessner-net/+archive/dovecot p@rick -- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] RFE: IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes
* Charles Marcus dovecot@dovecot.org: On 2011-03-11 5:31 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: Any client that connects to such a server can search for a folder that has been attributed as Sent. No need to create a new folder Sent Items if there's a special folder marked as \Sent. Same goes for clients that insist on calling it sent or Gesendete Objekte or ... Are there any clients that would actually work this way if it was implemented?? Outlook being the main culprit here I assume... ;) I don't know of any yet. The RFC is brandnew. But I plan to ask at relevant mailing lists for adoption of the new feature. AFAIK iPhone and gmail actually had done something simliar (XLIST) for their clients and servers. As for Outlook I am left to speculation. I believe Outlook will be the last, if at all, to work on any IMAP client feature richness. It would cannibalise their own market i.e. using Outlook as Exchange client. But Thunderbird, Apple Mail, smartphone IMAP clients and of course webmail clients will hopefully adopt the standard. It should be in their interest to implement a feature that mobilizes or eases mobilization in a world full of mobile users. p@rick -- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
[Dovecot] RFE: IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes
Timo, would you consider adding support for IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.txt any time near in the future? I would really love to get rid of all those folders created by all those different mail clients just because they can't agree to use the same folder for special purpose. Obviously clients need to support it too. Having Dovecot support it certainly would make them adopt the standard sooner. p@rick -- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
Re: [Dovecot] RFE: IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes
* Charles Marcus dovecot@dovecot.org: On 2011-03-11 4:57 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: Timo, would you consider adding support for IMAP LIST Extension for Special-Use Mailboxes http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6154.txt any time near in the future? I would really love to get rid of all those folders created by all those different mail clients just because they can't agree to use the same folder for special purpose. How would implementation of this extension solve that problem?? A server may, for example, mark a folder as \Sent. Any client that connects to such a server can search for a folder that has been attributed as Sent. No need to create a new folder Sent Items if there's a special folder marked as \Sent. Same goes for clients that insist on calling it sent or Gesendete Objekte or ... The RFC reserves a list of special use folders: \All This mailbox presents all messages in the user's message store. Implementations MAY omit some messages, such as, perhaps, those in \Trash and \Junk. When this special use is supported, it is almost certain to represent a virtual mailbox. \Archive This mailbox is used to archive messages. The meaning of an archival mailbox is server-dependent; typically, it will be used to get messages out of the inbox, or otherwise keep them out of the user's way, while still making them accessible. \Drafts This mailbox is used to hold draft messages -- typically, messages that are being composed but have not yet been sent. In some server implementations, this might be a virtual mailbox, containing messages from other mailboxes that are marked with the \Draft message flag. Alternatively, this might just be advice that a client put drafts here. \Flagged This mailbox presents all messages marked in some way as important. When this special use is supported, it is likely to represent a virtual mailbox collecting messages (from other mailboxes) that are marked with the \Flagged message flag. \Junk This mailbox is where messages deemed to be junk mail are held. Some server implementations might put messages here automatically. Alternatively, this might just be advice to a client-side spam filter. \Sent This mailbox is used to hold copies of messages that have been sent. Some server implementations might put messages here automatically. Alternatively, this might just be advice that a client save sent messages here. \Trash This mailbox is used to hold messages that have been deleted or marked for deletion. In some server implementations, this might be a virtual mailbox, containing messages from other mailboxes -- state of mind Digitale Kommunikation http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht MünchenPartnerschaftsregister PR 563
