Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-03-10 Thread SH Development via dovecot
Ok, so for lack of any other information, am I to conclude that the doveadm 
backup command is broken in 2.0.9?  I have been through the wiki for it back 
and forth and cannot make it work.

Yes, I need to upgrade, there is no question, but I won’t do that without a 
maildir backup.  I would prefer to use the built-in dovecot mechanisms for that 
than something else.

Jeff

> On Mar 10, 2019, at 12:09 PM, SH Development via dovecot  <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
> 
> Okay then.  Is there a document on how to do that in place?  That was one of 
> the reasons I was trying to do a backup first.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot > <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> You should upgrade 2.2 first.
>> 
>> Aki
>>> On 10 March 2019 10:45 SH Development via dovecot >> <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> V 2.0.9
>>> 
>>> Jeff 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2019, at 12:07 AM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot < dovecot@dovecot.org 
>>>> <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>>>> What version are you using?
>>>> 
>>>> Aki
>>>>> On 10 March 2019 00:40 SH Development via dovecot < dovecot@dovecot.org 
>>>>> <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, apparently I’m just a complete idiot. Why doesn’t this work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> doveadm -Dv backup -u user Maildir:/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup
>>>>> 
>>>>> With user being the actual user name.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No backup is created, it just shows me the usage text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:11 PM, SH Development < 
>>>>>> listacco...@starionline.com <mailto:listacco...@starionline.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am having trouble locating examples of how to use doveadm backup. All 
>>>>>> the examples I see are for sync. I simply want to create a backup to a 
>>>>>> network volume of the email server's vmail folders. The goal here is to 
>>>>>> have a reasonably current backup should the main drive on the email 
>>>>>> server go south.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We currently authenticate our users from a mysql database. User’s 
>>>>>> mailboxes are stored as domainname/username/Maildir
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I assume what I will wind up on the network volume is a duplicate 
>>>>>> directory structure as the vmail folder on the email server?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can someone help get me started here?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Aki Tuomi
>>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Aki Tuomi
> 



Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-03-10 Thread SH Development via dovecot
Okay then.  Is there a document on how to do that in place?  That was one of 
the reasons I was trying to do a backup first.

Jeff


> On Mar 10, 2019, at 4:12 AM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot  <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
> 
> You should upgrade 2.2 first.
> 
> Aki
>> On 10 March 2019 10:45 SH Development via dovecot > <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> V 2.0.9
>> 
>> Jeff 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2019, at 12:07 AM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot < dovecot@dovecot.org 
>>> <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>>> What version are you using?
>>> 
>>> Aki
>>>> On 10 March 2019 00:40 SH Development via dovecot < dovecot@dovecot.org 
>>>> <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, apparently I’m just a complete idiot. Why doesn’t this work?
>>>> 
>>>> doveadm -Dv backup -u user Maildir:/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup
>>>> 
>>>> With user being the actual user name.
>>>> 
>>>> No backup is created, it just shows me the usage text.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:11 PM, SH Development < 
>>>>> listacco...@starionline.com <mailto:listacco...@starionline.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am having trouble locating examples of how to use doveadm backup. All 
>>>>> the examples I see are for sync. I simply want to create a backup to a 
>>>>> network volume of the email server's vmail folders. The goal here is to 
>>>>> have a reasonably current backup should the main drive on the email 
>>>>> server go south.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We currently authenticate our users from a mysql database. User’s 
>>>>> mailboxes are stored as domainname/username/Maildir
>>>>> 
>>>>> I assume what I will wind up on the network volume is a duplicate 
>>>>> directory structure as the vmail folder on the email server?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone help get me started here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Aki Tuomi
>> 
> 
> ---
> Aki Tuomi



Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-03-10 Thread SH Development via dovecot
V 2.0.9

Jeff

> On Mar 10, 2019, at 12:07 AM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot  <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
> 
> What version are you using?
> 
> Aki
>> On 10 March 2019 00:40 SH Development via dovecot < dovecot@dovecot.org 
>> <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Okay, apparently I’m just a complete idiot. Why doesn’t this work?
>> 
>> doveadm -Dv backup -u user Maildir:/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup
>> 
>> With user being the actual user name.
>> 
>> No backup is created, it just shows me the usage text.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:11 PM, SH Development < listacco...@starionline.com 
>>> <mailto:listacco...@starionline.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having trouble locating examples of how to use doveadm backup. All the 
>>> examples I see are for sync. I simply want to create a backup to a network 
>>> volume of the email server's vmail folders. The goal here is to have a 
>>> reasonably current backup should the main drive on the email server go 
>>> south.
>>> 
>>> We currently authenticate our users from a mysql database. User’s mailboxes 
>>> are stored as domainname/username/Maildir
>>> 
>>> I assume what I will wind up on the network volume is a duplicate directory 
>>> structure as the vmail folder on the email server?
>>> 
>>> Can someone help get me started here?
>>> 
>>> Jeff
> 
> ---
> Aki Tuomi



Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-03-09 Thread SH Development via dovecot
Okay, apparently I’m just a complete idiot.  Why doesn’t this work?

doveadm -Dv backup -u user Maildir:/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup

With user being the actual user name.

No backup is created, it just shows me the usage text.

Jeff

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:11 PM, SH Development  
> wrote:
> 
> I am having trouble locating examples of how to use doveadm backup.  All the 
> examples I see are for sync.  I simply want to create a backup to a network 
> volume of the email server's vmail folders.  The goal here is to have a 
> reasonably current backup should the main drive on the email server go south.
> 
> We currently authenticate our users from a mysql database.  User’s mailboxes 
> are stored as domainname/username/Maildir
> 
> I assume what I will wind up on the network volume is a duplicate directory 
> structure as the vmail folder on the email server?
> 
> Can someone help get me started here?
> 
> Jeff



Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-02-20 Thread SH Development via dovecot
Here is my command:

[root@mail maelstrombackups] #mkdir -p vmailbackup
[root@mail vmail]# chown: vmail:vmail /mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup
[root@mail vmail]# doveadm backup -u jeff 
maildir:/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup

Only gives me the usage list, doesn’t work.

Jeff

> On Feb 21, 2019, at 1:29 AM, Sami Ketola  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21 Feb 2019, at 7.04, SH Development via dovecot  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Not really.  The suggestions in the post seemed to be:
>> 
>> 1. Tar the whole directory, which I have tried in the past, but a 130G 
>> directory takes over 18 hours to tar.
>> 2. It was also suggested to rsync the directory, but the question was 
>> brought up, and not answered, about whether it was advisable to copy live 
>> mail, thus the need for doveadm sync/backup.
>> 
>> Based on what I’ve read about doveadm backup, this is what I need, I am just 
>> having a hard time formulating the syntax for the command.
>> 
> 
> root@ketola ~]# mkdir -p /backup/sami
> root@ketola ~]# chown vmail:vmail /backup/sami
> root@ketola ~]# doveadm backup -u sami Maildir:/backup/sami
> 
> root@ketola ~]# du -hs /backup/sami
> 211M /backup/sami
> 
> does this help?
> 
> Sami



Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-02-20 Thread SH Development via dovecot
Sorry for being such a newbie when it comes to scripting.  Created a directory 
for the backups on the network mounted volume.  Changed the appropriate path 
and am getting this:

dsync(root): Error: user nfsnobody: Initialization failed: Namespace 'INBOX.': 
mkdir(/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup/nfsnobody) failed: Permission denied 
(euid=5000(vmail) egid=5000(vmail) missing +w perm: 
/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup, euid is not dir owner)
dsync(root): Fatal: User init failed
Backup done for user: nfsnobody ...
dsync(root): Error: user vmail: Initialization failed: Namespace 'INBOX.': 
mkdir(/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup/vmail) failed: Permission denied 
(euid=5000(vmail) egid=5000(vmail) missing +w perm: 
/mnt/maelstrombackups/vmailbackup, euid is not dir owner)
dsync(root): Fatal: User init failed
Backup done for user: vmail …

After running the script, I suddenly have two new directories in my vmail 
folder, “nfsnobody” and “vmail”.  What are these users?

Jeff


> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:32 PM, Kenren Taisho  wrote:
> 
> No worries, that simple script should get you to a start though. Just replace 
> the path with a mounted NFS share if you want it to reside in a network 
> volume.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 12:10 PM SH Development  
> wrote:
> My apologies, you are absolutely right.  Will post this in the correct forum.
> 
> Spent the last couple of hours poring through the postfix list and just 
> forgot where I was at.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Kenren Taisho  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jeff,
>> 
>> This should be better off to dovecot's mailing list. 
>> But just to get you started, this is the first thing that came to mind:
>> 
>> example:
>> 
>> for users in `doveadm user "*"`; do
>> LOCALPART=${users%%@*}
>> dsync -v -f -u $users backup maildir:/tmp/backup/$LOCALPART
>> echo "Backup done for user: $users ..." 
>> done
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 9:55 AM SH Development  
>> wrote:
>> I am having trouble locating examples of how to use doveadm backup.  All the 
>> examples I see are for sync.  I simply want to create a backup to a network 
>> volume of the email server's vmail folders.  The goal here is to have a 
>> reasonably current backup should the main drive on the email server go south.
>> 
>> We currently authenticate our users from a mysql database.  User’s mailboxes 
>> are stored as domainname/username/Maildir
>> 
>> I assume what I will wind up on the network volume is a duplicate directory 
>> structure as the vmail folder on the email server?
>> 
>> Can someone help get me started here?
>> 
>> Jeff
> 



Re: Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-02-20 Thread SH Development via dovecot
Not really.  The suggestions in the post seemed to be:

1. Tar the whole directory, which I have tried in the past, but a 130G 
directory takes over 18 hours to tar.
2. It was also suggested to rsync the directory, but the question was brought 
up, and not answered, about whether it was advisable to copy live mail, thus 
the need for doveadm sync/backup.

Based on what I’ve read about doveadm backup, this is what I need, I am just 
having a hard time formulating the syntax for the command.

Jeff

> On Feb 20, 2019, at 10:45 PM, @lbutlr via dovecot  wrote:
> 
> On Feb 20, 2019, at 21:11, SH Development via dovecot  <mailto:dovecot@dovecot.org>> wrote:
>> Can someone help get me started here?
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/489331/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-doveadm-to-backup-emails
>  
> <https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/489331/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-doveadm-to-backup-emails>
> 
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Assistance with doveadm backup...

2019-02-20 Thread SH Development via dovecot
I am having trouble locating examples of how to use doveadm backup.  All the 
examples I see are for sync.  I simply want to create a backup to a network 
volume of the email server's vmail folders.  The goal here is to have a 
reasonably current backup should the main drive on the email server go south.

We currently authenticate our users from a mysql database.  User’s mailboxes 
are stored as domainname/username/Maildir

I assume what I will wind up on the network volume is a duplicate directory 
structure as the vmail folder on the email server?

Can someone help get me started here?

Jeff