Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot not delivering mail.

2010-01-06 Thread Thomas Berezansky
Literally, in a recent case with me. Debian (any build I could get my  
hands on, I tried quite a few) would literally not install on a box. I  
was lucky if the installer ran, let alone did anything. Spent a week  
trying.


Ubuntu installed on the first try and was up and running after fifteen  
minutes.


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Quoting Jerry ges...@yahoo.com:

On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 14:41:32 -0200 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  
edua...@kalinowski.com.br

articulated:


On Qua, 06 Jan 2010, Pascal Volk wrote:
 Sorry, but I really can't understand, why the most unbuntu users seems
 to be unable to read AND understand so simple written documentation. :(

flamebait
If they could, they'd be running debian. :-)
/flamebait


Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning, I can’t install Debian.

--
Jerry
ges...@yahoo.com






Re: [Dovecot] User friendly vacation service

2009-12-14 Thread Thomas Berezansky
I solved that problem (granted, with virtual domains) by using the  
dovecot managesieve support and Horde ingo. Any sieve management tool  
should able to do it, though, we were using Horde for webmail already  
so rigging ingo to do filters wasn't hard.


No experience outside of ingo with this stuff, but ingo itself  
integrates a vacation rule in quite nicely. There are a pile of other  
solutions for managing the scripts through the managesieve interface,  
so finding one that works for you shouldn't be too hard.


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Quoting Raymond Lillard rlill...@sonic.net:


Dear Dovecot list,

I maintain a few small sendmail/dovecot/procmail based
mail servers with system users only (no virtual domains
or virtual users) on OpenBSD.

I have been able to get a vacation system working with
both with the native vacation program from OpenBSD and
with procmail.  I've been looking into dovecot sieve,
but it doesn't appear to solve the bigger user complaint
which is, they want to be able to control the vacation
feature w/o my involvement.

What is wanted is a system where the users can send a
control mail message to themselves with the reply body
in the message or failing that perhaps a secure web
page to control the vacation function.

Mail administration is NOT a full time job for me.  I'm
looking for simple, low overhead solutions.

Any suggestions?

Thanks for your time.
Ray







Re: [Dovecot] Vacation message with Sieve

2009-11-24 Thread Thomas Berezansky

Fire the new manager, eh?

Now you need to keep TWO old addresses working for the same position!  
Stop compounding the issue! ;)


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Quoting Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com:


On 11/24/2009, Patrick Nagel (patrick.na...@star-group.net) wrote:

2. Add the x-managers account to your replacements email client, so they
can check it as well as theirs.



2. is what we did.



In either case you could also enable the vacation message notification
if you like, but once per day is plenty in this case since someone else
is (or should be) reading the mail).



Well, as I said, they weren't satisfied with that.


So, the guy who is replacing the x-manager has direct access to the guys
email and all incoming messages, but is refusing to accept the
responsibility for it?

Fire the new manager would be my next step.

:)






Re: [Dovecot] [OT] preferred clients

2009-11-22 Thread Thomas Berezansky
Wait, what? I have, right now, a HTML message open, from an IMAP  
server, in Outlook 2007. Where did you hear that it wouldn't?


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Quoting Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com:


On 11/22/2009, Seth Mattinen (se...@rollernet.us) wrote:

They finally added the ability to set a sent items folder on the IMAP
server rather than using stupid tricks to copy it over, so that's a
plus. The fact that it can't delete by moving a copy to a deleted
items folder still bugs me enough that I won't use it. No idea about
the PST size thing though, never got that far.


One thing that is ridiculous about 2007 is it won't display HTML
messages on IMAP servers... probably related to their totally BRAIN-DEAD
decision to use the WORD HTML rendering engine instead of the IE
rendering engine.

I understand that in spite of a huge number of complaints about this,
they did not fix this issue in Outlook 2010...






Re: [Dovecot] [OT] preferred clients

2009-11-21 Thread Thomas Berezansky
Didn't notice that my reply to this didn't include the list (the  
default reply option due to having my address directly was to  
sender, not to list due to a local setting). Only noticed after the  
fact.


My response:

One of my IMAP folders has over 13000 messages and is handled fine,  
but I am not currently sure how much actual space that is taking up  
right now. I suspect it isn't even half a GB. However, Microsoft  
states (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/830336) that Outlook 2007  
doesn't use the 2GB limited format for anything by default, and that  
the default limit is 20GB as a result, likely with registry options to  
allow it to grow larger.


The only issue I see with deleting messages doesn't make them go  
away is that delete on an IMAP account is flag as deleted by  
default, which means you need to issue an IMAP purge command. As I  
don't use trash folders I prefer this behavior, even in Thunderbird  
and Horde. I just add the purge commands to my toolbar. I think the  
flagged as deleted thing is what you are thinking about with the some  
sort of compact operation, and is technically how IMAP is supposed to  
handle deletes.


For that issue, there is a Purge items when switching folders while  
online option, per account, that can be enabled. Also, the showing of  
deleted items is optional (when shown they, in all clients I have  
used, have a strike-through applied to them).


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Quoting Thomas Harold thomas-li...@nybeta.com:


On 11/20/2009 1:51 PM, Thomas Berezansky wrote:

Personally, I am using Horde (http://www.horde.org/) at work (this
address) and Outlook 2007 at home (largely due to getting freaky
attachments I need to open on a regular basis that only Microsoft mail
clients seem to be able to open properly).


Out of morbid curiosity... how good is Outlook 2007 at IMAP?  I've  
had experience with Outlook 2003 and the 2GB PST limit was a deal  
breaker for me.  I'm curious whether Outlook is getting better or  
worse at IMAP.


(In OL2003, they introduced a better PST format that was no longer  
limited to 2GB.  But you can't use it with IMAP accounts.  It also  
had weird behavior like deleting messages would not make them vanish  
from the folder until you did some sort of compact operation.)







Re: [Dovecot] [OT] preferred clients

2009-11-20 Thread Thomas Berezansky
Personally, I am using Horde (http://www.horde.org/) at work (this  
address) and Outlook 2007 at home (largely due to getting freaky  
attachments I need to open on a regular basis that only Microsoft mail  
clients seem to be able to open properly).


Horde is a webmail client, and works well in Firefox (where you can  
open the left hand menu in a sidebar separate from your tabs). I  
install it with the calendar, notes, tasks, etc included and we tell  
our users to log into it in order to change their passwords.


Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium


Quoting Jonathan jonat...@kc8onw.net:

I'm getting tired of Thunderbird telling me I have unread messages  
in folders that haven't gotten new messages for months so I'm  
looking for a new mail client.  I know the problem lies with  
Thunderbird because everything is fine via RoundCube and if it tell  
Thunderbird to rebuild it's index it shows the folder correctly  
again.  Except of course for a subset of the messages in my inbox  
that it insists where delivered at the exact time I re-indexed it,  
every time.


So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days?  Preferably  
windows or cross platform and it needs to have decent key bindings  
because (probably like many of you) I get 100s of emails a day via  
lists and anything that speeds my way through them is good.


I run my own server (probably obvious being on this list) and can  
install webmail clients as well.  I ran squirrelmail for a while but  
although functional it's quite dated.  I'm using RoundCube for  
access away from my systems now but it lacks keyboard shortcut  
support and trying to click one email after another with a laptop  
touchpad gets painful fast.


Thanks,
Jonathan






[Dovecot] SetUID check problem

2009-10-27 Thread Thomas Berezansky
Running dovecot 1.2.4 on FreeBSD using Postfix. Everything works fine  
normally, but deliver is executable by world.


This is not normally a problem, as I don't run deliver SetUID root.

But for whatever reason, when deliver is called by something that IS  
SetUID root I get the following error:


/usr/local/libexec/dovecot/deliver must not be both world-executable  
and setuid-root. This allows root exploits. See  
http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA#multipleuids


Deliver's permissions look like this:

-r-xr-xr-x

While the program calling deliver has permissions like this:

-r-s--x---

If it isn't possible for deliver to differentiate between being called  
by setuid root programs and being setuid root itself I don't think it  
should be doing that particular security check. Alternatively, there  
should be an option to turn that particular check off, but what little  
I saw of the source code and found searching the documentation told me  
that there doesn't seem to be such an option already.


I also couldn't find any mention that this is fixed by 1.2.5 or 1.2.6.

Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium