Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-14 Thread Marc Perkel


On 11/13/2013 4:34 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-11-14 01:13:


I does act like a DNS problem but why is DNS involved? It doesn't have
a delay in connecting. It's the login that's slow.


you use a auth that depends on fast dns ?

lost now how your dovecot -n was

are we sure its dns at all ?, i see the INDEX on another path then 
MAILDIR was, is it 2 diff harddisk drives ?


is it running on shared resources ?



My AUTH depends only on MYSQL. There's no DNS involved. At least not 
that I can see there should be. So why would localhost take 10-15 
seconds to do the login part and coming into the servers IP address is 
instant. And in both cases the connection itself is instant. It's when I 
type in the LOGIN command that the delay occurs.



# 2.2.7: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-042stab083.2 x86_64 CentOS release 6.4 (Final) ext4
auth_master_user_separator = *
auth_mechanisms = login plain
disable_plaintext_auth = no
first_valid_uid = 12
info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log
log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log
login_greeting = Computer Tyme Dovecot ready.
mail_fsync = never
mail_gid = mail
mail_location = maildir:/vhome/%d/home/%n:INDEX=/email/imap-cache/%d-%n
mail_uid = mail
passdb {
  args = /etc/dovecot/sql.conf
  driver = sql
}
passdb {
  args = /etc/dovecot/master-combined-sql.conf
  driver = sql
  master = yes
  pass = yes
}
protocols = imap pop3
service anvil {
  client_limit = 2
}
service auth {
  client_limit = 2
  unix_listener auth-client {
mode = 0666
  }
  unix_listener auth-master {
mode = 0666
  }
}
service imap-login {
  process_limit = 4000
  process_min_avail = 30
  service_count = 0
}
service imap {
  process_limit = 4000
}
service pop3-login {
  process_limit = 2000
  process_min_avail = 20
  service_count = 0
}
service pop3 {
  process_limit = 2000
}
ssl_ca = /usr/share/ssl/certs/rapidssl.crt
ssl_cert = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
ssl_key = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
verbose_proctitle = yes
protocol imap {
  mail_max_userip_connections = 50
}
protocol pop3 {
  pop3_uidl_format = %v.%u
}



Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-14 Thread Benny Pedersen

Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-11-14 05:25:


My AUTH depends only on MYSQL. There's no DNS involved. At least not
that I can see there should be. So why would localhost take 10-15
seconds to do the login part and coming into the servers IP address is
instant. And in both cases the connection itself is instant. It's when
I type in the LOGIN command that the delay occurs.


i cant see what in sql.conf here, never mind, but localhost is a 
hostname so it needs dns to find the ip, change the hostname in sql.conf 
to 127.0.0.1 or use socket file instaed of dns


if that its, give me a hand ?




Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-14 Thread Marc Perkel


On 11/14/2013 11:32 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:

Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-11-14 05:25:


My AUTH depends only on MYSQL. There's no DNS involved. At least not
that I can see there should be. So why would localhost take 10-15
seconds to do the login part and coming into the servers IP address is
instant. And in both cases the connection itself is instant. It's when
I type in the LOGIN command that the delay occurs.


i cant see what in sql.conf here, never mind, but localhost is a 
hostname so it needs dns to find the ip, change the hostname in 
sql.conf to 127.0.0.1 or use socket file instaed of dns


if that its, give me a hand ?



That would be understandable if the delay were connecting, but it's not. 
The connection is instand. And localhost resolves instantly. The delay 
is after I type in the login command. That's what I don't understand.





Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-14 Thread Gregory Sloop
Is it perhaps a *server* dns lookup delay?

I've typically seen 60s delays when a reverse lookup fails, so 20s
seems odd - but when you first mentioned it, that's the little flag
that waved in my head.

'course I could be totally stupid, high, or huffing glue or something
- but thought I'd throw that out there.

-Greg



MP On 11/14/2013 11:32 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
 Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-11-14 05:25:

 My AUTH depends only on MYSQL. There's no DNS involved. At least not
 that I can see there should be. So why would localhost take 10-15
 seconds to do the login part and coming into the servers IP address is
 instant. And in both cases the connection itself is instant. It's when
 I type in the LOGIN command that the delay occurs.

 i cant see what in sql.conf here, never mind, but localhost is a 
 hostname so it needs dns to find the ip, change the hostname in 
 sql.conf to 127.0.0.1 or use socket file instaed of dns

 if that its, give me a hand ?


MP That would be understandable if the delay were connecting, but it's not.
MP The connection is instand. And localhost resolves instantly. The delay
MP is after I type in the login command. That's what I don't understand.





Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-14 Thread Steffen Kaiser

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On Thu, 14 Nov 2013, Marc Perkel wrote:

That would be understandable if the delay were connecting, but it's not. The 
connection is instand. And localhost resolves instantly. The delay is after I 
type in the login command. That's what I don't understand.


Did you checked the logs in parallel to connecting as I suggested in the 
other post?


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[Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Marc Perkel
Can't figure out why the login is slow. I telnet to port 143 on 
localhost. I type:


0 login user password

Takes about 10 seconds and it lets me in. I'm using MYSQL and it's a 
small indexed database on a fast server so it's not the mysql query 
that's slowing it down. At least I don't think it is. But - kind of 
stumped. Just wondering if there's something obvious I'm overlooking.




Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Marc Perkel


On 11/13/2013 12:41 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
Can't figure out why the login is slow. I telnet to port 143 on 
localhost. I type:


0 login user password

Takes about 10 seconds and it lets me in. I'm using MYSQL and it's a 
small indexed database on a fast server so it's not the mysql query 
that's slowing it down. At least I don't think it is. But - kind of 
stumped. Just wondering if there's something obvious I'm overlooking.




Here's my dovecot -n listing. Not using PAM

# 2.2.7: /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-042stab083.2 x86_64 CentOS release 6.4 (Final) ext4
auth_master_user_separator = *
auth_mechanisms = login plain
disable_plaintext_auth = no
first_valid_uid = 12
info_log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log
log_path = /var/log/dovecot.log
login_greeting = Computer Tyme Dovecot ready.
mail_fsync = never
mail_gid = mail
mail_location = maildir:/vhome/%d/home/%n:INDEX=/email/imap-cache/%d-%n
mail_uid = mail
passdb {
  args = /etc/dovecot/sql.conf
  driver = sql
}
passdb {
  args = /etc/dovecot/master-combined-sql.conf
  driver = sql
  master = yes
  pass = yes
}
protocols = imap pop3
service anvil {
  client_limit = 2
}
service auth {
  client_limit = 2
  unix_listener auth-client {
mode = 0666
  }
  unix_listener auth-master {
mode = 0666
  }
}
service imap-login {
  process_limit = 4000
  process_min_avail = 30
  service_count = 0
}
service imap {
  process_limit = 4000
}
service pop3-login {
  process_limit = 2000
  process_min_avail = 20
  service_count = 0
}
service pop3 {
  process_limit = 2000
}
ssl_ca = /usr/share/ssl/certs/rapidssl.crt
ssl_cert = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
ssl_key = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
verbose_proctitle = yes
protocol imap {
  mail_max_userip_connections = 50
}
protocol pop3 {
  pop3_uidl_format = %v.%u
}



Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Pascal Volk
On 11/13/2013 11:01 PM Muzaffer Tolga Ozses wrote:
 ssl_ca = /usr/share/ssl/certs/rapidssl.crt
 ssl_cert = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
 ssl_key = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
 
 These lines look weird to me. Why do they have a  ?

Because Marc uses Dovecot = v2.0.0


Regards,
Pascal
-- 
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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Marc Perkel

More information 

When i telnet to localhost on 143 it takes 10-15 seconds to log in.

but 

When I telnet to the host name of the server it logs in instantly.

Why would it be slow on localhost by fast on the server's IP address?



Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Pascal Volk
On 11/13/2013 11:17 PM Marc Perkel wrote:
 More information 
 
 When i telnet to localhost on 143 it takes 10-15 seconds to log in.
 
 but 
 
 When I telnet to the host name of the server it logs in instantly.
 
 Why would it be slow on localhost by fast on the server's IP address?
 

Sounds like a DNS lookup problem. Did you list all related ip addresses
in /etc/hosts?


Regards,
Pascal
-- 
The trapper recommends today: c01dcofe.1331...@localdomain.org


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Joseph Tam



ssl_ca = /usr/share/ssl/certs/rapidssl.crt
ssl_cert = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem
ssl_key = /usr/share/ssl/certs/imapd.pem

These lines look weird to me. Why do they have a  ?


Red herring; this is standard.  I think it means feed this file into stdin.

On 11/13/2013 12:41 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:


Takes about 10 seconds and it lets me in. I'm using MYSQL and it's a
small indexed database on a fast server so it's not the mysql query that's
slowing it down. At least I don't think it is. But - kind of stumped. Just
wondering if there's something obvious I'm overlooking.


I think maybe turning up the verbosity on logging will help.  If that
doesn't, try process tracing the dovecot auth process.

Joseph Tam jtam.h...@gmail.com


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen

Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-11-14 00:17:

More information 

When i telnet to localhost on 143 it takes 10-15 seconds to log in.

but 

When I telnet to the host name of the server it logs in instantly.

Why would it be slow on localhost by fast on the server's IP address?


make localdomain dns works

check /etc/hosts

# incorrect example
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain

# correct example
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost

note there is also local tld depending on how centos payed attention :(

and add ip / hostnames for dns entries that is not known on boot when 
named is not yet ready to serve, but still is static under control of 
you


80.162.68.54 duggi.junc.org duggi
..
more lines if you need one more :)

imho this is the problem is you have dns issues that timeout, nothing 
beats localhost on dns, so if its not on localhost you know why it takes 
time


remember the same for ipv6 btw

and drop port 143 and change to port 993 if you are pro :=)



Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Marc Perkel


On 11/13/2013 3:28 PM, Pascal Volk wrote:

On 11/13/2013 11:17 PM Marc Perkel wrote:

More information 

When i telnet to localhost on 143 it takes 10-15 seconds to log in.

but 

When I telnet to the host name of the server it logs in instantly.

Why would it be slow on localhost by fast on the server's IP address?


Sounds like a DNS lookup problem. Did you list all related ip addresses
in /etc/hosts?


Regards,
Pascal


I does act like a DNS problem but why is DNS involved? It doesn't have a 
delay in connecting. It's the login that's slow.




Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Benny Pedersen

Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-11-14 01:13:


I does act like a DNS problem but why is DNS involved? It doesn't have
a delay in connecting. It's the login that's slow.


you use a auth that depends on fast dns ?

lost now how your dovecot -n was

are we sure its dns at all ?, i see the INDEX on another path then 
MAILDIR was, is it 2 diff harddisk drives ?


is it running on shared resources ?




Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot login slow

2013-11-13 Thread Steffen Kaiser

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On Wed, 13 Nov 2013, Marc Perkel wrote:


On 11/13/2013 12:41 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:
Can't figure out why the login is slow. I telnet to port 143 on localhost. 
I type:


0 login user password


I would:

+ add to conf:

auth_debug = yes
auth_verbose = yes
mail_debug = yes

+ tail -F /var/log/dovecot.log

+ telnet  login

and monitor the debug lines to get to know, if the delay comes before 
auth. If you see userdb log entries before the delay, it is most likely 
not the DNS.


Do you have the MTA on the same server? If so, a local caching DNS server 
is good as well.


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Steffen Kaiser

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