[Dovecot] OT - Legal disclaimers - WAS: Re: Poor pop3 over nfs performance

2008-07-02 Thread Charles Marcus

On 7/2/2008, Mark Zealey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
This mail is subject to http://www.gxn.net/disclaimer 


Wow... good idea for disclaimers (I hate them)...

I wonder if doing it this way fulfills the brain-dead laws requiring 
disclaimers some countries are enacting?


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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] OT - Legal disclaimers - WAS: Re: Poor pop3 over nfs performance

2008-07-02 Thread Joseba Torre
El Miércoles, 2 de Julio de 2008 a las 13:50, Charles Marcus escribió:
 On 7/2/2008, Mark Zealey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  This mail is subject to http://www.gxn.net/disclaimer

 Wow... good idea for disclaimers (I hate them)...

IANAL, but: It's not only that we all hate them; also they are questionable in 
a legal point of view. They are based on:

- It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this 
communication in error please notify the sender

Yeah; I got the message, so I'm the addresee. No point here. And my telephatic 
powers are down now, so I can't know if it's been an error or not. 

-  delete this message from your system without copying or disseminating it 
or placing any reliance upon its contents

Well, you sent it to me, so it's mine now. Sending a message to me doesn't 
give you the power to tell me what should I do; otherwise, I could say 
something like send me all the files in your hard disk so I can verify you 
save no copy of this messages or even send me 1000$.

- Confidentially

Under spanish law, I have to SIGN a contract BEFORE I access to the 
confidential content. No contract, no confidentially. They can not show me 
some content and, later, tell me it was confidential.

Some interesting articles about this:
- in spanish:
http://www.iabogado.com/esp/blogcfm/1/2007/12/Los-avisos-de-confidencialidad-en-los-correos-esos-engendros-jurdicos.cfm

- in english:
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

And yes, I'm really tired of this messages...

Aagur.
-- 
Joseba Torre. CIDIR Bizkaia.


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Re: [Dovecot] OT - Legal disclaimers

2008-07-02 Thread Charles Marcus

On 7/2/2008, Joseba Torre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Wow... good idea for disclaimers (I hate them)...

IANAL, but: It's not only that we all hate them; also they are questionable in 
a legal point of view. They are based on:


I understand all of that.

I did *not* ask for endless comments about how/why they are silly, 
useless, impossible to enforce or evil.


I simply asked if anyone who lives in a country where these are now 
legally *mandated*, if this one-line url reference satisfies these 
legally required disclaimers.


So please, if you cannot comment on this question, don't comment at all.

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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] OT - Legal disclaimers

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:25 PM +0200 Joseba Torre 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



- in english:
http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/


That's a good one. Be sure to follow the link to his funny examples.

http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/fun.html

Some other discussion of silly ones here (look for sillier disclaimers).

http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2005-December/thread.html