Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released / Dovecot 5 years old

2007-07-20 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 17:24 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
  Jul 24 was also the day I decided to use Dovecot name. It was suggested
  to me around Jul 18. I'm pretty bad at naming things myself:
 
 I have always been interested how you got around to naming Dovecot.

The name came from Mika Boström in IRC (or SILC probably, because I
can't find the discussion from my logs). I wasn't sure if I wanted to
use it first, but no-one else came up with anything better.

 Is
 there any other meaning intended apart from what the dictionary says (and
 which seems little related to imap software :)

Pigeons used to carry mail and live in dovecots, so Dovecot is the house
for email :)



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Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-19 Thread Robert Schetterer
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Timo Sirainen schrieb:
 On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 09:03 +0200, Robert Schetterer wrote:
 Hi Timo, wasnt full imap acl planed for the 1.1 release, i dont see it
 here .should i take new glasses*gg??
 
 It was, but the plans changed a bit because some people want to have
 dbox rewrite in production in a couple of months. :)
 
 So the plan is now to get a stable v1.1 out soon, do the dbox rewrite
 and after that continue with v1.2 which will have ACLs, virtual
 mailboxes, etc.
 
Ok, i understand , sounds great

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Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-19 Thread Charles Marcus

On 7/19/2007, Timo Sirainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

So the plan is now to get a stable v1.1 out soon, do the dbox rewrite
and after that continue with v1.2 which will have ACLs, virtual
mailboxes, etc.


Where is single-instance-storage now on the roadmap? Is that a 2.0+ 
feature? Or maybe 1.2 or 1.3?


Just curious...

Dovecot just keep getting better and better... thanks!

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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-19 Thread Timo Sirainen

On 19.7.2007, at 17.12, Charles Marcus wrote:


On 7/19/2007, Timo Sirainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

So the plan is now to get a stable v1.1 out soon, do the dbox rewrite
and after that continue with v1.2 which will have ACLs, virtual
mailboxes, etc.


Where is single-instance-storage now on the roadmap? Is that a 2.0+  
feature? Or maybe 1.2 or 1.3?


It's a dbox feature, so probably v1.2, maybe even v1.1.



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Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-19 Thread Charles Marcus
Where is single-instance-storage now on the roadmap? Is that a 2.0+ 
feature? Or maybe 1.2 or 1.3?



It's a dbox feature, so probably v1.2, maybe even v1.1.


Wheee! Cool... but two follow-ups if you don't mind...

Is this going to initially be just for attachments? Or for the entire 
message (not a big deal if it is only attachments, as it is attachments 
I'm mostly concerned about)?


and

Will conversion of an existing mail store take place automatically (as 
users are converted to dbox), or will there be a migration tool of some 
kind?


Thanks again for all you do!

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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-19 Thread Charles Marcus

On 7/19/2007, Timo Sirainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Is this going to initially be just for attachments? Or for the 
entire message (not a big deal if it is only attachments, as it is 
attachments I'm mostly concerned about)?


I think I'll make the dbox format itself support both, but at least 
initially it's done only for attachments.


By the way... it just occurred to me...

We are talking about Single Instance Storage across the entire 
namespace, not just on a per dbox file, right?


Will conversion of an existing mail store take place automatically 
(as users are converted to dbox), or will there be a migration tool 
of some kind?


Convert plugin can be used to do that. I was thinking about making 
maildir - dbox conversion superfast by allowing the maildir files be 
used directly as dbox files. Only when some dbox metadata needs to be 
written the file will have to be rewritten into dbox format.


Interesting - so they would auto-self-convert only when necessary? 
Impressive...


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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-19 Thread Brad
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 06:37:05 +0300
Timo Sirainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://dovecot.org/releases/1.1/alpha/dovecot-1.1.alpha1.tar.gz
 http://dovecot.org/releases/1.1/alpha/dovecot-1.1.alpha1.tar.gz.sig
 
 This is the first alpha release of Dovecot v1.1. I hope that it
 stabilizes into final release within a few months. There are a lot of
 new features since v1.0. The most important ones are listed at the end
 of this post.

Is there an updated Sieve plug-in which works with 1.1?


[Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
http://dovecot.org/releases/1.1/alpha/dovecot-1.1.alpha1.tar.gz
http://dovecot.org/releases/1.1/alpha/dovecot-1.1.alpha1.tar.gz.sig

This is the first alpha release of Dovecot v1.1. I hope that it
stabilizes into final release within a few months. There are a lot of
new features since v1.0. The most important ones are listed at the end
of this post.

This is the only v1.1.alpha announcement I send to dovecot-news list (or
to www.dovecot.org news). The next one probably will be v1.1.rc1.

I've been stress testing the code a lot and I've also been using it
myself for almost a year, so I think this release should actually be
quite stable and usable. But since I haven't tested everything, there
might be some crashes and misbehaving commands.

So this release should now have all the major features that I intend to
add to v1.1 (except for dbox rewrite, see below). Some smaller features
will still be added. The rest of the major features in my previous v1.1
list will go to v1.2.

While v1.1 is getting stabilized I'm beginning to rewrite dbox code. Its
code is isolated from the rest of Dovecot, so it can't destabilize
anything else. Hopefully it will be ready before v1.1 release, although
maybe still marked as experimental.

Some of the features might not be considered quite ready yet:

 - Mailbox list indexes improve STATUS performance a lot (maybe 7x) when
mailboxes haven't changed. Handling updates however is a lot slower than
I'd want (2x with one client, more with multiple), so you may want to
disable them with mailbox_list_index_disable=yes until the update
performance gets better.

 - THREAD code is completely rewritten with support for incremental
updates and index files. I tested it last year and it seemed OK, but I
didn't dare try it now so I wouldn't have to delay this alpha if it was
broken :) I'll do some more testing soon, but for now be careful with
using v1.1 with webmails.

 - SORT code also uses indexes now, but it's a lot simpler so it
probably works.

 - Squat indexes work and I'm using them myself, but they'll be
rewritten for v1.2 with a new faster format.

 - Although Dovecot now flushes NFS attribute/data caches when needed,
I'm not sure if it's done in all the necessary places.

 - I don't remember if I've tested expire plugin at all.

So, the largest changes I've added to NEWS file (which BTW won't contain
changes between alphas/betas/rcs, those will be only in my mailing list
posts):

* After Dovecot v1.1 has modified index or dovecot-uidlist files,
  they can't be opened anymore with Dovecot versions earlier than
  v1.0.2.
* Empty passwords in passdb doesn't allow user to log in with any
  password anymore. To do that you'll also need to set nopassword
  extra field.

+ IMAP: Added support for UIDPLUS and LIST-EXTENDED extensions.
+ IMAP SORT: Sort keys are indexed, which makes SORT commands faster.
+ IMAP THREAD: Threads are indexed into a dovecot.index.thread file.
  It can usually be updated incrementally, so this makes THREAD fast.
+ Added Dovecot-specific X-REFERENCES2 threading algorithm.
  It's similar to REFERENCES, but it doesn't do base subject merging
  and it sorts the threads by their newest message.
+ When saving messages, update cache file immediately with the data
  that we expect client to fetch later. Maildir-only currently.
+ NFS attribute and data caches are are flushed whenever needed.
  See mail_nfs_storage and mail_nfs_index settings.
+ Mailbox list indexes. Mailbox metadata is stored there, so STATUS
  commands can return synchronized mailboxes' metadata simply by
  reading a single mailbox list index file. Currently works only with
  Maildir++ layout.
+ Out of order command execution (SEARCH, FETCH, LIST), nonstandard
  command cancellation (X-CANCEL tag)
+ Expire plugin can be used to keep track of oldest messages in
  specific mailboxes. A nightly run can then quickly expunge old
  messages from the mailboxes that have them. The tracking is done
  using lib-dict, so you can use either Berkeley DB or SQL database.
+ Namespaces are supported everywhere now.
+ Full text search indexing support with Lucene and Squat backends.
+ OTP and S/KEY authentication mechanisms (by Andrey Panin).
+ mbox and Maildir works with both Maildir++ and FS layouts. You can
  change these by appending :LAYOUT=maildir++ or :LAYOUT=fs to
  mail_location.
+ LDAP: Support templates in pass_attrs and user_attrs
+ Support for listening in multiple IPs/ports.
+ Quota plugin rewrite: Support for multiple quota roots, warnings,
  allow giving storage size in bytes or kilo/mega/giga/terabytes,
  per-mailbox quota rules.



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Re: [Dovecot] v1.1.alpha1 released

2007-07-18 Thread Gerhard Wiesinger

Hello Timo!

Is the deliver/index update code also included for mbox mailboxes?

Ciao,
Gerhard

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Timo Sirainen wrote:


http://dovecot.org/releases/1.1/alpha/dovecot-1.1.alpha1.tar.gz
http://dovecot.org/releases/1.1/alpha/dovecot-1.1.alpha1.tar.gz.sig

This is the first alpha release of Dovecot v1.1. I hope that it
stabilizes into final release within a few months. There are a lot of
new features since v1.0. The most important ones are listed at the end
of this post.

This is the only v1.1.alpha announcement I send to dovecot-news list (or
to www.dovecot.org news). The next one probably will be v1.1.rc1.

I've been stress testing the code a lot and I've also been using it
myself for almost a year, so I think this release should actually be
quite stable and usable. But since I haven't tested everything, there
might be some crashes and misbehaving commands.

So this release should now have all the major features that I intend to
add to v1.1 (except for dbox rewrite, see below). Some smaller features
will still be added. The rest of the major features in my previous v1.1
list will go to v1.2.

While v1.1 is getting stabilized I'm beginning to rewrite dbox code. Its
code is isolated from the rest of Dovecot, so it can't destabilize
anything else. Hopefully it will be ready before v1.1 release, although
maybe still marked as experimental.

Some of the features might not be considered quite ready yet:

- Mailbox list indexes improve STATUS performance a lot (maybe 7x) when
mailboxes haven't changed. Handling updates however is a lot slower than
I'd want (2x with one client, more with multiple), so you may want to
disable them with mailbox_list_index_disable=yes until the update
performance gets better.

- THREAD code is completely rewritten with support for incremental
updates and index files. I tested it last year and it seemed OK, but I
didn't dare try it now so I wouldn't have to delay this alpha if it was
broken :) I'll do some more testing soon, but for now be careful with
using v1.1 with webmails.

- SORT code also uses indexes now, but it's a lot simpler so it
probably works.

- Squat indexes work and I'm using them myself, but they'll be
rewritten for v1.2 with a new faster format.

- Although Dovecot now flushes NFS attribute/data caches when needed,
I'm not sure if it's done in all the necessary places.

- I don't remember if I've tested expire plugin at all.

So, the largest changes I've added to NEWS file (which BTW won't contain
changes between alphas/betas/rcs, those will be only in my mailing list
posts):

* After Dovecot v1.1 has modified index or dovecot-uidlist files,
  they can't be opened anymore with Dovecot versions earlier than
  v1.0.2.
* Empty passwords in passdb doesn't allow user to log in with any
  password anymore. To do that you'll also need to set nopassword
  extra field.

+ IMAP: Added support for UIDPLUS and LIST-EXTENDED extensions.
+ IMAP SORT: Sort keys are indexed, which makes SORT commands faster.
+ IMAP THREAD: Threads are indexed into a dovecot.index.thread file.
  It can usually be updated incrementally, so this makes THREAD fast.
+ Added Dovecot-specific X-REFERENCES2 threading algorithm.
  It's similar to REFERENCES, but it doesn't do base subject merging
  and it sorts the threads by their newest message.
+ When saving messages, update cache file immediately with the data
  that we expect client to fetch later. Maildir-only currently.
+ NFS attribute and data caches are are flushed whenever needed.
  See mail_nfs_storage and mail_nfs_index settings.
+ Mailbox list indexes. Mailbox metadata is stored there, so STATUS
  commands can return synchronized mailboxes' metadata simply by
  reading a single mailbox list index file. Currently works only with
  Maildir++ layout.
+ Out of order command execution (SEARCH, FETCH, LIST), nonstandard
  command cancellation (X-CANCEL tag)
+ Expire plugin can be used to keep track of oldest messages in
  specific mailboxes. A nightly run can then quickly expunge old
  messages from the mailboxes that have them. The tracking is done
  using lib-dict, so you can use either Berkeley DB or SQL database.
+ Namespaces are supported everywhere now.
+ Full text search indexing support with Lucene and Squat backends.
+ OTP and S/KEY authentication mechanisms (by Andrey Panin).
+ mbox and Maildir works with both Maildir++ and FS layouts. You can
  change these by appending :LAYOUT=maildir++ or :LAYOUT=fs to
  mail_location.
+ LDAP: Support templates in pass_attrs and user_attrs
+ Support for listening in multiple IPs/ports.
+ Quota plugin rewrite: Support for multiple quota roots, warnings,
  allow