Re: Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-18 Thread Dean Carpenter
 

I use a tinc vpn mesh between the nodes. iptables only allows the nodes
to talk to each on port 655, all else is dropped. Works well. I also
have a setup using zerotier for the same thing - my ansible deployment
playbook will use either one. 

DC. 

On 2023-05-14 11:29 am, Daniel Miller via dovecot wrote: 

> I only allow explicit service traffic through. IMAPS, SMTPS, etc. If doveadm 
> is communicating via the IMAP(S) ports then all I can do via firewall is 
> block countries. Which of course I can but I'm asking about any additional 
> hardening for Dovecot itself. 
> 
> -- 
> Daniel 
> 
> On May 13, 2023 6:25:06 PM jeremy ardley via dovecot  
> wrote: 
> 
> On 14/5/23 09:14, Daniel L. Miller via dovecot wrote: 
> 
> May 12 15:45:58 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(194.165.16.78): Error: doveadm 
> client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?) 
> May 13 03:44:31 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(45.227.254.48): Error: doveadm 
> client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?) 
> 
> Since I don't recognize those IPs, the first is out of Panama and the 
> other is Belize, I assume these are hostile attackers trying to 
> exploit something. How can I defend against this? 
> 
> Set up a firewall rule that only allows access from an IP range you 
> control. For any other source, simply drop the connection. 
> 
> You can get really fancy and use port forwarding using ssh to connect 
> from remote but appear as localhost to the server. This access can be 
> configured in dovecot as well as firewall 
> 
> Jeremy 
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Re[2]: Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-14 Thread Daniel L. Miller via dovecot

Thank you Jeremy and Bernardo.

Adding cert verification is something I'll have to delve into. Also 
possibly pushing the replication through the VPN.


It's been a while since I last setup my replication pair - everything's 
been working smoothly so I've forgotten some of the key items. 
Particularly the need to open an explicit port for the doveadm 
connection - which of course I do have on a non-standard port and up 
till now it hasn't been an issue. I was fighting multiple config issues 
at the time - including network setup - so I left the communication 
purely through the external IP's instead of being VPN dependent. I may 
change that.


Fail2ban and other guards have blocked most port scanning and other junk 
- this was the first time I saw such log lines in my mail log and it 
scared me. Now I know what to look for and what it means. Thanks again.


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Daniel


-- Original Message --

From "jeremy ardley via dovecot" 

To dovecot@dovecot.org
Date 5/14/2023 4:03:28 PM
Subject Re: Possible hack via doveadm




On 14/5/23 23:29, Daniel Miller via dovecot wrote:
I only allow explicit service traffic through. IMAPS, SMTPS, etc. If 
doveadm is communicating via the IMAP(S) ports then all I can do via 
firewall is block countries. Which of course I can but I'm asking 
about any additional hardening for Dovecot itself.




You can set up a doveadm service that requires client certificates

service doveadm {
  inet_listener {
port = 12345
  }
  ssl = yes
  ssl_cert = ___
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Re: Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-14 Thread jeremy ardley via dovecot


On 14/5/23 23:29, Daniel Miller via dovecot wrote:
I only allow explicit service traffic through. IMAPS, SMTPS, etc. If 
doveadm is communicating via the IMAP(S) ports then all I can do via 
firewall is block countries. Which of course I can but I'm asking 
about any additional hardening for Dovecot itself.




You can set up a doveadm service that requires client certificates

service doveadm {
  inet_listener {
    port = 12345
  }
  ssl = yes
  ssl_cert = ___
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Re: Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-14 Thread Bernardo Reino

On Sun, 14 May 2023, Daniel Miller via dovecot wrote:

I only allow explicit service traffic through. IMAPS, SMTPS, etc. If doveadm 
is communicating via the IMAP(S) ports then all I can do via firewall is 
block countries. Which of course I can but I'm asking about any additional 
hardening for Dovecot itself.


Maybe you want to show your configuration, and in particular the 
dsync_remote_cmd and the service doveadm { } part (where you define the 
listening port).


Normally (AFAIK anyway) the used port (12345 in the example in 
https://wiki.dovecot.org/Replication) is *not* the IMAP(S) port, so you must 
have set it to something.


For replication I'd recommend using a VPN, so that the dovecot instances 
communicate over the tunnel, and thus immune to anything from the outside world.


Cheers.

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Re: Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-14 Thread Daniel Miller via dovecot
I only allow explicit service traffic through. IMAPS, SMTPS, etc. If 
doveadm is communicating via the IMAP(S) ports then all I can do via 
firewall is block countries. Which of course I can but I'm asking about any 
additional hardening for Dovecot itself.


--
Daniel
On May 13, 2023 6:25:06 PM jeremy ardley via dovecot  
wrote:



On 14/5/23 09:14, Daniel L. Miller via dovecot wrote:


May 12 15:45:58 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(194.165.16.78): Error: doveadm
client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?)
May 13 03:44:31 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(45.227.254.48): Error: doveadm
client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?)

Since I don't recognize those IPs, the first is out of Panama and the
other is Belize, I assume these are hostile attackers trying to
exploit something. How can I defend against this?


Set up a firewall rule that only allows access from an IP range you
control. For any other source, simply drop the connection.

You can get really fancy and use port forwarding using ssh to connect
from remote but appear as localhost to the server. This access can be
configured in dovecot as well as firewall


Jeremy
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Re: Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-13 Thread jeremy ardley via dovecot



On 14/5/23 09:14, Daniel L. Miller via dovecot wrote:


May 12 15:45:58 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(194.165.16.78): Error: doveadm 
client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?)
May 13 03:44:31 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(45.227.254.48): Error: doveadm 
client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?)


Since I don't recognize those IPs, the first is out of Panama and the 
other is Belize, I assume these are hostile attackers trying to 
exploit something. How can I defend against this?


Set up a firewall rule that only allows access from an IP range you 
control. For any other source, simply drop the connection.


You can get really fancy and use port forwarding using ssh to connect 
from remote but appear as localhost to the server. This access can be 
configured in dovecot as well as firewall



Jeremy
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Possible hack via doveadm

2023-05-13 Thread Daniel L. Miller via dovecot
I currently have two servers running with synchronization that I've been 
very happy with.  However, I'm seeing the following in my logs recently:


May 12 15:45:58 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(194.165.16.78): Error: doveadm 
client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?)
May 13 03:44:31 cloud1 dovecot: doveadm(45.227.254.48): Error: doveadm 
client not compatible with this server (mixed old and new binaries?)


Since I don't recognize those IPs, the first is out of Panama and the 
other is Belize, I assume these are hostile attackers trying to exploit 
something. How can I defend against this?


--
Daniel
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