Re: Overrideing pop delete?
On 12/15/18 8:09 AM, @lbutlr wrote:
> I have a question about the namespace section.
>
>> You create only a single namespace.
> [...]
> First all, that shows two namespace sections.
When it says "You create only a single namespace", it means you would
create a single extra namespace for the lazy expunge plugin (instead of
creating *three* new namespaces just for the plugin, as in the later
example on that page).
This extra single lazy expunge namespace would be in addition to any
normal namespaces you already have.
> Am I just adding the new namespace for lazy_expunge inside that?
No. Do not touch your existing namespaces at all. You add a new one for
lazy expunge.
> And, finally, is there any way to limit this to only POP3 delete instead of
> all IMAP?
Haven't tried that, but perhaps you could experiment with adding it to
mail_plugins in only the "protocol pop3" section, like:
protocol pop3 {
mail_plugins = $mail_plugins lazy_expunge
}
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Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies, http://www.tigertech.net/
Re: Overrideing pop delete?
On 14 Dec 2018, at 17:09, Robert L Mathews wrote:
> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Lazyexpunge
I have a question about the namespace section.
> You create only a single namespace. When a message is expunged from mailbox
> , it's moved to a mailbox in the expunge namespace. When an
> entire mailbox is deleted, it's also moved to this namespace as
> . If it already exists, their contents are merged.
>
> Example configuration:
>
> # the default namespace
>
> namespace {
> prefix =
> separator = /
> inbox = yes
> }
>
>
> # namespace for lazy_expunge plugin:
> namespace {
> prefix = .EXPUNGED/
> hidden = yes
> list = no
> separator = /
> location = maildir:~/Maildir/expunged
> }
>
> mail_plugins = $mail_plugins lazy_expunge
> plugin {
> lazy_expunge = .EXPUNGED/
>
> }
First all, that shows two namespace sections. Second, my namespace looks quite
different (maybe it’s from older config version, I am not on 2.3 yet). I have a
few users with shell access and mail in ~/Maildir but most users are in mysql.
user_query = select 89 as uid, 89 as gid, concat('/usr/local/virtual/',
maildir) as home FROM mailbox where username = '%u'
namespace inbox {
inbox = yes
location =
mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
auto = subscribe
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Trash {
special_use = \Trash
}
mailbox Archive {
auto = subscribe
special_use = \Archive
}
prefix =
}
Am I just adding the new namespace for lazy_expunge inside that? And since the
readme also says to put lazy_expunge and all in the mailplugins line, why is
this repeated here? Won’t this override the previous setting?
And, finally, is there any way to limit this to only POP3 delete instead of all
IMAP?
--
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warm for the rest of his life.”
Re: Overrideing pop delete?
On 14 Dec 2018, at 17:09, Robert L Mathews wrote: > On 12/14/18 3:34 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > >> Now that I think about it, even better would be a way to move the messages >> into an archive box when they are downloaded, this way they will be entirely >> invisible from the POP3 access, and I can use normal expiry functions to >> clean out that archive after backup. > > We do exactly this using the "Lazy Expunge" plugin: > > https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Lazyexpunge > > Despite the IMAP-sounding "expunge" in the name, it works for all > deletions, including POP3. Thank you! -- Let the Wookiee win.
Re: Overrideing pop delete?
> On 15 Dec 2018, at 03:11, Jochen Bern wrote: > > On 12/15/2018 12:34 AM, @lbutlr wrote: >> On 14 Dec 2018, at 16:30, @lbutlr wrote: >>> Is it possible to override the POP3 delete on download command and make >>> sure that messages stay on the server for at least X hours or X days? >>> It is important that the messages be around long enough to hit a snapshot >>> cycle (using rsnapshot to backup ever hour). >> >> Now that I think about it, even better would be a way to move the messages >> into an archive box when they are downloaded, this way they will be entirely >> invisible from the POP3 access, and I can use normal expiry functions to >> clean out that archive after backup. > > From a data flow (and privacy protection) POV, that wouldn't be much > different anymore from having *the MTA* feed a copy of (all incoming) > e-mails directly into an archiving mechanism, would it? No, but it is only needed for the times someone access the account via POP3 without “leave on server". -- Oh look, good intentions!
Re: Re: Overrideing pop delete?
On 12/15/2018 12:34 AM, @lbutlr wrote: > On 14 Dec 2018, at 16:30, @lbutlr wrote: >> Is it possible to override the POP3 delete on download command and make >> sure that messages stay on the server for at least X hours or X days? >> It is important that the messages be around long enough to hit a snapshot >> cycle (using rsnapshot to backup ever hour). > > Now that I think about it, even better would be a way to move the messages > into an archive box when they are downloaded, this way they will be entirely > invisible from the POP3 access, and I can use normal expiry functions to > clean out that archive after backup. From a data flow (and privacy protection) POV, that wouldn't be much different anymore from having *the MTA* feed a copy of (all incoming) e-mails directly into an archiving mechanism, would it? http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#always_bcc Regards, -- Jochen Bern Systemingenieur www.binect.de www.facebook.de/binect smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Overrideing pop delete?
On 12/14/18 3:34 PM, @lbutlr wrote: > Now that I think about it, even better would be a way to move the messages > into an archive box when they are downloaded, this way they will be entirely > invisible from the POP3 access, and I can use normal expiry functions to > clean out that archive after backup. We do exactly this using the "Lazy Expunge" plugin: https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Lazyexpunge Despite the IMAP-sounding "expunge" in the name, it works for all deletions, including POP3. -- Robert L Mathews, Tiger Technologies, http://www.tigertech.net/
Re: Overrideing pop delete?
On 14 Dec 2018, at 16:30, @lbutlr wrote: > Is it possible to override the POP3 delete on download command and make sure > that messages stay on the server for at least X hours or X days? > > It is important that the messages be around long enough to hit a snapshot > cycle (using rsnapshot to backup ever hour). Now that I think about it, even better would be a way to move the messages into an archive box when they are downloaded, this way they will be entirely invisible from the POP3 access, and I can use normal expiry functions to clean out that archive after backup. -- I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away.
