Re: Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[Steffen Kaiser]

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On Sat, 4 Mar 2017, Chris Stankevitz wrote:


mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~/mail


the default for maildir-type would be ~/Maildir :-) that enables 
auto-detection as well.



1. Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?

2. Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail? Which 
files?  (In other words: which files are "home directory" files and which 
files are "mail files"?)



drwx--  .
drwxr-xr-x  ..
drwx--  .Archives


any dir with dot at the beginning except . and ..


drwx--  cur
drwx--  new
drwx--  tmp


these dirs hold the messages of the INBOX


-rw---  dovecot-keywords
-rw---  dovecot-uidlist
-rw---  dovecot-uidvalidity
-r--r--r--  dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048
-rw---  dovecot.index
-rw---  dovecot.index.cache
-rw---  dovecot.index.log
-rw---  dovecot.mailbox.log
-rw---  subscriptions


make it:
dovecot.index* dovecot-uid*
You do not seem to use mailbox sharing or ACLs, those features would add 
some other entries.


===

These not! They belong to Sieve in home:


lrwx--  .dovecot.sieve
-rw---  .dovecot.sieve.log
-rw---  .dovecot.sieve.log.0
-rw---  .dovecot.svbin
drwx--  sieve


Keep any directory without leading dot (except cur, new,& tmp) in home as 
well.


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Steffen Kaiser

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Re: Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[chaouche yacine]

Thanks Alex. I myself ran into these problems as described above and having 
distinct Maildir and Homedir helped it. The main reason being dovecot not 
making any distinction between a folder and maildir folder, which seems to have 
a very simple solution though.

  -- Yassine.

Re: Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[Alex JOST]

Am 06.03.2017 um 09:06 schrieb chaouche yacine:

Hi Chris,


I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be



different.  I plan to use this:


I'm interested about any sources for this ?


http://wiki.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers/Home

	"Home directory shouldn't be the same as mail directory with mbox or 
Maildir formats (but with dbox/obox it's fine). It's possible to do 
that, but you might run into trouble with it sooner or later."


--
Alex JOST

Re: Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[chaouche yacine]

It's even listed as a possible setup in dovecot's wiki, see : 
http://genius.it/wiki.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers/Home (annotated version).

  -- Yassine.

Re: Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[chaouche yacine]

Hi Chris,

>I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be 

>different.  I plan to use this:

I'm interested about any sources for this ? 


I find dovecot to be very flexible, so much that you can actual have the home 
dir inside the maildir instead of the traditional other way around, which is 
actually my setup ! 



In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/auth-sql.conf.ext 

userdb {
driver = static
args = uid=vmail gid=vmail home=/var/vmail/%d/%n/dovecot
}




In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf
mail_location = Maildir:~/../




So in my case, the maildir is /var/vmail/%d/%n/ and the home dir is inside the 
maildir in a directory I named dovecot (home=/var/vmail/%d/%n/dovecot). This is 
because I migrated from courier which had the maildir directly in 
/var/vmail/%d/%n/, but since sieve scripts are also put there they are 
presented as maildir folders (which they're not of course), and this confused 
my users. So I used this little trick to hide the sieve scripts inside the 
dovecot directory and still have them working correctly.

   -- Yassine.

Re: Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[Charles Marcus]

I can't provide specific details as I'm on the road, but I successfully used 
mmv utility to accomplish something similar - changed mail home from 
domain/local@domain to just domain/local for about 65 users, took less than a 
second once I worked out the command (it supports wildcards) . The tricky part 
was changing the sql backend (was using postfixadmin) after the mmv - I ended 
up just dumping the sql db, editing the file, then pausing postfix/dovecot, 
performing the mmv, then restoring the db, and restarted postfix/dovecot, was 
down for maybe 20 seconds or less... 

On March 4, 2017 7:41:53 PM EST, Chris Stankevitz  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have been using this setup for years:
>
>mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
>mail_location = maildir:~
>
>I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be 
>different.  I plan to use this:
>
>mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
>mail_location = maildir:~/mail
>
>I would like the transition to be transparent for my email clients.  I 
>don't want mail/directories/sieve_scripts to disappear.
>
>1. Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?
>
>2. Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail?
>
>Which files?  (In other words: which files are "home directory" files 
>and which files are "mail files"?)
>
>Thank you,
>
>Chris
>
>Example home directory:
>
>drwx-- .
>drwxr-xr-x ..
>drwx-- .Archives
>drwx-- .Archives.2016
>drwx-- .Archives.2017
>drwx-- .Drafts
>drwx-- .Junk
>drwx-- .Notes
>drwx-- .Sent
>drwx-- .Sent
>drwx-- .Trash
>drwx-- .work
>drwx-- .home
>drwx-- .todo
>lrwx-- .dovecot.sieve
>-rw--- .dovecot.sieve.log
>-rw--- .dovecot.sieve.log.0
>-rw--- .dovecot.svbin
>drwx-- cur
>-rw--- dovecot-keywords
>-rw--- dovecot-uidlist
>-rw--- dovecot-uidvalidity
>-r--r--r-- dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048
>-rw--- dovecot.index
>-rw--- dovecot.index.cache
>-rw--- dovecot.index.log
>-rw--- dovecot.mailbox.log
>drwx-- new
>drwx-- sieve
>-rw--- subscriptions
>drwx-- tmp
>
>$ dovecot -n
># 2.2.27 (c0f36b0): /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
># Pigeonhole version 0.4.16 (fed8554)
># OS: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 amd64
>lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes
>mail_gid = 1002
>mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
>mail_location = maildir:~
>mail_privileged_group = vpostfix
>mail_uid = 1002
>managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
>managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope 
>encoded-character vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric 
>relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify 
>environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate mime foreverypart
>extracttext
>namespace inbox {
>   inbox = yes
>   location =
>   mailbox Drafts {
> special_use = \Drafts
>   }
>   mailbox Junk {
> special_use = \Junk
>   }
>   mailbox Sent {
> special_use = \Sent
>   }
>   mailbox "Sent Messages" {
> special_use = \Sent
>   }
>   mailbox Trash {
> special_use = \Trash
>   }
>   prefix =
>}
>passdb {
>   args = scheme=CRYPT username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
>   driver = passwd-file
>}
>plugin {
>   recipient_delimiter = -
>   sieve = file:~/sieve;active=~/.dovecot.sieve
>}
>protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve
>recipient_delimiter = -
>service auth {
>   unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth {
> group = postfix
> mode = 0666
> user = postfix
>   }
>   unix_listener auth-userdb {
> group = postfix
> mode = 0600
> user = postfix
>   }
>}
>service lmtp {
>   unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp {
> group = postfix
> mode = 0666
> user = postfix
>   }
>}
>service managesieve-login {
>   inet_listener sieve {
> port = 4190
>   }
>}
>ssl_cert = xxx
>ssl_key =  xxx
>userdb {
>   args = username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
>   driver = passwd-file
>}
>protocol lmtp {
>   mail_plugins = " sieve"
>   postmaster_address = xxx
>}
>protocol lda {
>   mail_plugins = " sieve"
>}

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Transitioning away from mail_location = maildir:~

[Chris Stankevitz]

Hi,

I have been using this setup for years:

mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~

I have since learned that mail_home and mail_location should be 
different.  I plan to use this:


mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~/mail

I would like the transition to be transparent for my email clients.  I 
don't want mail/directories/sieve_scripts to disappear.


1. Should I manually create the maildir:~/mail directories?

2. Should I move files from /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n into maildir:~/mail? 
Which files?  (In other words: which files are "home directory" files 
and which files are "mail files"?)


Thank you,

Chris

Example home directory:

drwx--  .
drwxr-xr-x  ..
drwx--  .Archives
drwx--  .Archives.2016
drwx--  .Archives.2017
drwx--  .Drafts
drwx--  .Junk
drwx--  .Notes
drwx--  .Sent
drwx--  .Sent
drwx--  .Trash
drwx--  .work
drwx--  .home
drwx--  .todo
lrwx--  .dovecot.sieve
-rw---  .dovecot.sieve.log
-rw---  .dovecot.sieve.log.0
-rw---  .dovecot.svbin
drwx--  cur
-rw---  dovecot-keywords
-rw---  dovecot-uidlist
-rw---  dovecot-uidvalidity
-r--r--r--  dovecot-uidvalidity.55411048
-rw---  dovecot.index
-rw---  dovecot.index.cache
-rw---  dovecot.index.log
-rw---  dovecot.mailbox.log
drwx--  new
drwx--  sieve
-rw---  subscriptions
drwx--  tmp

$ dovecot -n
# 2.2.27 (c0f36b0): /usr/local/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.4.16 (fed8554)
# OS: FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 amd64
lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes
mail_gid = 1002
mail_home = /var/mail/vhosts/%d/%n
mail_location = maildir:~
mail_privileged_group = vpostfix
mail_uid = 1002
managesieve_notify_capability = mailto
managesieve_sieve_capability = fileinto reject envelope 
encoded-character vacation subaddress comparator-i;ascii-numeric 
relational regex imap4flags copy include variables body enotify 
environment mailbox date index ihave duplicate mime foreverypart extracttext

namespace inbox {
  inbox = yes
  location =
  mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
  }
  mailbox Junk {
special_use = \Junk
  }
  mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
  }
  mailbox "Sent Messages" {
special_use = \Sent
  }
  mailbox Trash {
special_use = \Trash
  }
  prefix =
}
passdb {
  args = scheme=CRYPT username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
  driver = passwd-file
}
plugin {
  recipient_delimiter = -
  sieve = file:~/sieve;active=~/.dovecot.sieve
}
protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve
recipient_delimiter = -
service auth {
  unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/auth {
group = postfix
mode = 0666
user = postfix
  }
  unix_listener auth-userdb {
group = postfix
mode = 0600
user = postfix
  }
}
service lmtp {
  unix_listener /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp {
group = postfix
mode = 0666
user = postfix
  }
}
service managesieve-login {
  inet_listener sieve {
port = 4190
  }
}
ssl_cert = xxx
ssl_key =  xxx
userdb {
  args = username_format=%u /usr/local/etc/dovecot/users
  driver = passwd-file
}
protocol lmtp {
  mail_plugins = " sieve"
  postmaster_address = xxx
}
protocol lda {
  mail_plugins = " sieve"
}