Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
--On Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:33 PM -0400 Mark Foley wrote: Shortly after this post, I found a solution here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1097725 In order to see the .Dennis\ Email.Dennis\ Inbox sub-folder you have to collapse and re-expand the folder list in Thunderbird. It's that simple ... AND that annoyingly obscure! That sometimes works. Sometimes I have to open the Subscribe dialog and open/close the new hierarchy there. It's very tedious and annoying. I'd love to have a Thunderbird addon that automatically does this, either on demand or at every Thunderbird start when an account is first opened.
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
Shortly after this post, I found a solution here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=1097725
In order to see the .Dennis\ Email.Dennis\ Inbox sub-folder you have to
collapse and re-expand
the folder list in Thunderbird. It's that simple ... AND that annoyingly
obscure!
Thanks for your help! --Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mark Foley
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 21:21:34 -0400
Organization: Ohio Highway Patrol Retirement System
To: dovecot@dovecot.org
Subject: Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:11:40 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:23:06 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire
> >>>>> Maildir folder to another user
> >>>>> to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the
> >>>>> permission 'chmod -R
> >>>>> og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner.
> >>>>> This didn't work to show
> >>>>> the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
> >>>>> 'JoesEmail' folder. I
> >>>>> restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and
> >>>>> shows none of the
> >>>>> subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail'
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> 'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
> >>>>> ownership, no
> >>>>> subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What am I doing wrong?
> >>>>
> >>>> Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied
> >>>> his
> >>>> entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
> >>>>
> >>>> If this means that you have:
> >>>> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>>> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>>> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>>> now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
> >>>> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
> >>>>
> >>>> You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
> >>>> into:
> >>>> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>>> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>>> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>>>
> >>>> If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
> >>>>
> >>>> Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
> >>>> folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
> >>>> setting varies from client to client.
> >>>>
> >>>> Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
> >>>> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
> >>>>
> >>>> Steffen Kaiser
> >>>
> >>> Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in
> >>> your first example. I
> >>> changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir
> >>> folder now has:
> >>>
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\
> >>> Messages.Junk/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
> >>> drwx-- 21 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\
> >>> Email.Deleted\ Items/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\
> >>> Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
> >>
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:11:40 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:23:06 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
> >>> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
>
> > We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire
> > Maildir folder to another user
> > to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the
> > permission 'chmod -R
> > og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner.
> > This didn't work to show
> > the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
> > 'JoesEmail' folder. I
> > restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
> >
> > In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and
> > shows none of the
> > subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail'
> > and
> > 'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
> >
> > I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
> > ownership, no
> > subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied
> his
> entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
>
> Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
>
> If this means that you have:
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
>
> You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
> into:
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
>
> If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
>
> Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
> folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
> setting varies from client to client.
>
> Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
>
> Steffen Kaiser
> >>>
> >>> Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in
> >>> your first example. I
> >>> changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir
> >>> folder now has:
> >>>
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\
> >>> Messages.Junk/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
> >>> drwx-- 21 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\
> >>> Email.Deleted\ Items/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\
> >>> Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
> >>> drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:35 .ESI/
> >>>
> >>> Where '.Dennis Email' is the folder for the old user. I copied the old
> >>> user's 'Maildir/.Deleted Items'
> >>> and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent' to the target user's 'Maildir/.Dennis
> >>> Email.Deleted Items'
> >>> and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent, respective. That how I understood what
> >>> you advised. There are
> >>> more such subfolders, but I thought I'd try this one first.
> >>
> >>> However, still only the "Dennis Email" folder shows in the mail client,
> >>> empty, no sub-folders
> >>> even though "Deleted Items.Sent/cur" has plenty of mail files (1522).
> >>>
> >>> I did try running 'doveadm index -u mpress "Dennis Email"', again; and
> >>> restarting dovecot and
> >>> thunderbird again, but still nothing.
> >>
> >> First check if Dovecot thinks the folders are there:
> >>
> >> doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
> >
> > yes:
> >
> > # doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
> > Dennis Email
> > Dennis Email.Deleted Items
> > Dennis Email.Deleted Items.Sent
>
> That means: Dovecot sees them, but your client is not.
> Are you absolutely sure the client is set to "display all folders"?
> Secondly, make sure Thunderbird rescans the folders. Sometimes you need to
> collapse *certain* levels and expand them. I mean, collaps the whole tree
> of the account, then expand it again, see if the triangle in front of
> Dennis Email appeared, tap there, a.s.o. I have a Thunderbird client, that
> for whatever reason I don't know, "forgets" about a certain hierarchie
> (subtree) now and then.
>
> As another test, you could speak IMAP:
>
> telnet localhost 143
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:23:06 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir folder
to another user
to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the permission
'chmod -R
og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner. This
didn't work to show
the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
'JoesEmail' folder. I
restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and shows
none of the
subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and
'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
ownership, no
subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
What am I doing wrong?
Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied his
entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
If this means that you have:
Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
into:
Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
setting varies from client to client.
Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
Steffen Kaiser
Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in your
first example. I
changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir folder
now has:
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\ Messages.Junk/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
drwx-- 21 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items.Sent/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:35 .ESI/
Where '.Dennis Email' is the folder for the old user. I copied the old user's
'Maildir/.Deleted Items'
and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent' to the target user's 'Maildir/.Dennis
Email.Deleted Items'
and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent, respective. That how I understood what you
advised. There are
more such subfolders, but I thought I'd try this one first.
However, still only the "Dennis Email" folder shows in the mail client, empty,
no sub-folders
even though "Deleted Items.Sent/cur" has plenty of mail files (1522).
I did try running 'doveadm index -u mpress "Dennis Email"', again; and
restarting dovecot and
thunderbird again, but still nothing.
First check if Dovecot thinks the folders are there:
doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
yes:
# doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
Dennis Email
Dennis Email.Deleted Items
Dennis Email.Deleted Items.Sent
That means: Dovecot sees them, but your client is not.
Are you absolutely sure the client is set to "display all folders"?
Secondly, make sure Thunderbird rescans the folders. Sometimes you need to
collapse *certain* levels and expand them. I mean, collaps the whole tree
of the account, then expand it again, see if the triangle in front of
Dennis Email appeared, tap there, a.s.o. I have a Thunderbird client, that
for whatever reason I don't know, "forgets" about a certain hierarchie
(subtree) now and then.
As another test, you could speak IMAP:
telnet localhost 143
1 login mpress "pwd"
2 list * *
3 lsub * *
You could manually add those to the subscription file, if LSUB does not
display the folders. LSUB displays only subscribed folders, LIST displays
all.
Then make sure that each of the three folders contain the cur, new, tmp
subfolders.
They do:
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/cur/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/new/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/tmp/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 2678784 2017-06-23 12:14 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/cur/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 180224 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
> On 19 Jul 2018, at 7.29, Mark Foley wrote: > > # doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis > Dennis Email > Dennis Email.Deleted Items > Dennis Email.Deleted Items.Sent > >> Then make sure that each of the three folders contain the cur, new, tmp >> subfolders. > > They do: > > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/cur/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/new/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/tmp/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 2678784 2017-06-23 12:14 ./.Dennis\ > Email.Deleted\ Items/cur/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 180224 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\ > Email.Deleted\ Items/new/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 16384 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ > Items/tmp/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 507904 2018-07-13 13:02 ./.Dennis\ > Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/cur/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2015-02-23 17:51 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ > Items.Sent/new/ > drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 13:02 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\ > Items.Sent/tmp/ > Is this possibly some kind of SELinux problem? Do you have it enabled? And if you do then did you perhaps move the Dennis's folders to new location with mv causing the security context to be lost? What if you run restorecon on all the files? Sami
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:23:06 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
> >>
> >>> We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir
> >>> folder to another user
> >>> to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the
> >>> permission 'chmod -R
> >>> og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner.
> >>> This didn't work to show
> >>> the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
> >>> 'JoesEmail' folder. I
> >>> restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
> >>>
> >>> In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and
> >>> shows none of the
> >>> subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and
> >>> 'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
> >>>
> >>> I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
> >>> ownership, no
> >>> subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
> >>>
> >>> What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >> Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied his
> >> entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
> >>
> >> Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
> >>
> >> If this means that you have:
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
> >> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
> >>
> >> You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
> >> into:
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> >>
> >> If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
> >>
> >> Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
> >> folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
> >> setting varies from client to client.
> >>
> >> Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
> >> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
> >>
> >> Steffen Kaiser
> >
> > Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in
> > your first example. I
> > changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir
> > folder now has:
> >
> > drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\
> > Messages.Junk/
> > drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
> > drwx-- 21 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
> > drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\
> > Email.Deleted\ Items/
> > drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\
> > Email.Deleted\ Items.Sent/
> > drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
> > drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:35 .ESI/
> >
> > Where '.Dennis Email' is the folder for the old user. I copied the old
> > user's 'Maildir/.Deleted Items'
> > and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent' to the target user's 'Maildir/.Dennis
> > Email.Deleted Items'
> > and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent, respective. That how I understood what
> > you advised. There are
> > more such subfolders, but I thought I'd try this one first.
>
> > However, still only the "Dennis Email" folder shows in the mail client,
> > empty, no sub-folders
> > even though "Deleted Items.Sent/cur" has plenty of mail files (1522).
> >
> > I did try running 'doveadm index -u mpress "Dennis Email"', again; and
> > restarting dovecot and
> > thunderbird again, but still nothing.
>
> First check if Dovecot thinks the folders are there:
>
> doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
yes:
# doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
Dennis Email
Dennis Email.Deleted Items
Dennis Email.Deleted Items.Sent
> Then make sure that each of the three folders contain the cur, new, tmp
> subfolders.
They do:
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/cur/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/new/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 14:30 ./.Dennis\ Email/tmp/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 2678784 2017-06-23 12:14 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/cur/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 180224 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/new/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 16384 2016-06-20 16:29 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/tmp/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 507904 2018-07-13 13:02 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items.Sent/cur/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2015-02-23 17:51 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items.Sent/new/
drwx-- 2 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-13 13:02 ./.Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items.Sent/tmp/
> Does the Dovecot log contains something?
Nothing at all when
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir folder
to another user
to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the permission
'chmod -R
og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner. This
didn't work to show
the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
'JoesEmail' folder. I
restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and shows
none of the
subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and
'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
ownership, no
subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
What am I doing wrong?
Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied his
entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
If this means that you have:
Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
into:
Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
setting varies from client to client.
Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
Steffen Kaiser
Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in your
first example. I
changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir folder
now has:
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\ Messages.Junk/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
drwx-- 21 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items.Sent/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:35 .ESI/
Where '.Dennis Email' is the folder for the old user. I copied the old user's
'Maildir/.Deleted Items'
and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent' to the target user's 'Maildir/.Dennis
Email.Deleted Items'
and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent, respective. That how I understood what you
advised. There are
more such subfolders, but I thought I'd try this one first.
However, still only the "Dennis Email" folder shows in the mail client, empty,
no sub-folders
even though "Deleted Items.Sent/cur" has plenty of mail files (1522).
I did try running 'doveadm index -u mpress "Dennis Email"', again; and
restarting dovecot and
thunderbird again, but still nothing.
First check if Dovecot thinks the folders are there:
doveadm mailbox list -u "mpress" | grep Dennis
Then make sure that each of the three folders contain the cur, new, tmp
subfolders.
Does the Dovecot log contains something?
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Steffen Kaiser
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Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 08:06:24 +0200 Steffen Kaiser
wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
>
> > We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir
> > folder to another user
> > to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the
> > permission 'chmod -R
> > og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner.
> > This didn't work to show
> > the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
> > 'JoesEmail' folder. I
> > restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
> >
> > In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and shows
> > none of the
> > subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and
> > 'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
> >
> > I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
> > ownership, no
> > subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
>
> Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied his
> entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
>
> Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
>
> If this means that you have:
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
>
> You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
> into:
> Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
> Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
>
> If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
>
> Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
> folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
> setting varies from client to client.
>
> Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
> https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
>
> Steffen Kaiser
Steffen, thanks for your reply. I did have the copied folders as shown in your
first example. I
changed that to what you show as the remedy. The target user's Maildir folder
now has:
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2017-06-28 20:07 .Deleted\ Messages.Junk/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:22 .Delta\ Dental/
drwx-- 21 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:48 .Dennis\ Email/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-16 23:15 .Dennis\ Email.Deleted\
Items.Sent/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 17:02 .Drafts/
drwx-- 5 mpress domusers 4096 2018-07-17 16:35 .ESI/
Where '.Dennis Email' is the folder for the old user. I copied the old user's
'Maildir/.Deleted Items'
and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent' to the target user's 'Maildir/.Dennis
Email.Deleted Items'
and 'Maildir/.Deleted Items/Sent, respective. That how I understood what you
advised. There are
more such subfolders, but I thought I'd try this one first.
However, still only the "Dennis Email" folder shows in the mail client, empty,
no sub-folders
even though "Deleted Items.Sent/cur" has plenty of mail files (1522).
I did try running 'doveadm index -u mpress "Dennis Email"', again; and
restarting dovecot and
thunderbird again, but still nothing.
What else can I try?
THX --Mark
Re: folders not visible on copied mail folders
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2018, Mark Foley wrote:
We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir folder
to another user
to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the permission
'chmod -R
og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner. This
didn't work to show
the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the
'JoesEmail' folder. I
restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird.
In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and shows
none of the
subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and
'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help.
I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed
ownership, no
subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked.
What am I doing wrong?
Your description might be interpreted one way or another, esp. "copied his
entire Maildir folder ... to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail".
Also, it depends on how you have configured mail_location.
If this means that you have:
Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail/.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
now, that will clash with the standard Maildir format:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
You would need to move the subfolders with a leading dot of .JoesEmail
into:
Maildir/.JoesEmail/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
Maildir/.JoesEmail.mailbox.submailbox/{new,cur,tmp}
If you use :LAYOUT=fs to mail_location, .JoesEmail should spell JoesEmail
Subscription is needed only, if the mail client "displays subscribed
folders only" or does not "display all folders". The meaning of the
setting varies from client to client.
Another way would to keep the other account and share it via ACLs:
https://wiki2.dovecot.org/SharedMailboxes/Shared
- --
Steffen Kaiser
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folders not visible on copied mail folders
We had a user quit recently. Three days ago I copied his entire Maildir folder to another user to that user's Maildir/.JoesEmail. I changed ownership and made the permission 'chmod -R og-rwx .', just like all the other files/directories of the new owner. This didn't work to show the new folder. Today, in his Thunderbird client, I subscribed to the 'JoesEmail' folder. I restarted dovecot and restarted Thunderbird. In Thunderbird, the 'JoesEmail' folder now shows, but it is empty and shows none of the subordinate mail folders. I ran 'doveadm index -u newowner JoesEmail' and 'doveadm force-resync -u newowner JoesEmail'. This didn't help. I did this once before with a previous user who quit and only changed ownership, no subscribing, no doveadm, and that worked. What am I doing wrong? THX --Mark
