Re: sieve - find in header

2016-09-09 Thread Tom Hendrikx


On 09-09-16 08:35, Hajo Locke wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> thanks for your help.
> 
> Am 08.09.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Tom Hendrikx:
>> On 08-09-16 20:51, @lbutlr wrote:
>>> On Tue Sep 06 2016 07:25:38 Hajo Locke said
 How to solve this case and find a string in arbitrary/unknown
 headerline?
>>> You’ll have to create multiple sieves covering the possible headers.
>>>
>> Maybe when you tell what you're trying to achieve, we can give you
>> better advice.
>>
>> Almost no one is looking for random strings in random headers, since
>> headers are (somewhat) structured data. Could you share with us what
>> string you are looking and why you don't know up front which header
>> field you need to use to look for it?
> 
> We have a webmailer where experienced users are able to create
> filterrules. They can can choose from a lot of predefined headerlines
> and insert text to find. After that they choose a respective action.
> To cover all cases we had a choosable option "complete header" to find a
> string in every headerline without knowing the specific line. This is
> done easily in procmail:
> 
> :0 H
> * ^*searchstring
> 
> i agree that an option like this is needless and it was a mistake to
> offer it.
> If this is not achievable in sieve, we have to remove this
> search-option. May be we replace by a kind of custom-headerline.

I guess that would be my solution too.

Maybe you can check the existing configurations from your users to see
how many ppl actually use this action. If there any only a few, then
that might be used an an extra argument in the discussion on removing
the option altogether. Especially when you are able to manually replace
the existing uses with a construct that sieve *does* support (f.i.
someone uses this because wasn't able to determine which header name was
actually needed, which is easier when you actually filtered a few messages).

Kind regards,
Tom


Re: sieve - find in header

2016-09-08 Thread Hajo Locke

Hello,

thanks for your help.

Am 08.09.2016 um 22:13 schrieb Tom Hendrikx:

On 08-09-16 20:51, @lbutlr wrote:

On Tue Sep 06 2016 07:25:38 Hajo Locke   said

How to solve this case and find a string in arbitrary/unknown headerline?

You’ll have to create multiple sieves covering the possible headers.


Maybe when you tell what you're trying to achieve, we can give you
better advice.

Almost no one is looking for random strings in random headers, since
headers are (somewhat) structured data. Could you share with us what
string you are looking and why you don't know up front which header
field you need to use to look for it?


We have a webmailer where experienced users are able to create 
filterrules. They can can choose from a lot of predefined headerlines 
and insert text to find. After that they choose a respective action.
To cover all cases we had a choosable option "complete header" to find a 
string in every headerline without knowing the specific line. This is 
done easily in procmail:


:0 H
* ^*searchstring

i agree that an option like this is needless and it was a mistake to 
offer it.
If this is not achievable in sieve, we have to remove this 
search-option. May be we replace by a kind of custom-headerline.


Kind regards,
Tom




Thanks,
Hajo


Re: sieve - find in header

2016-09-08 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 08-09-16 20:51, @lbutlr wrote:
> On Tue Sep 06 2016 07:25:38 Hajo Locke said
>> How to solve this case and find a string in arbitrary/unknown headerline?
> 
> You’ll have to create multiple sieves covering the possible headers.
> 

Maybe when you tell what you're trying to achieve, we can give you
better advice.

Almost no one is looking for random strings in random headers, since
headers are (somewhat) structured data. Could you share with us what
string you are looking and why you don't know up front which header
field you need to use to look for it?

Kind regards,
Tom




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Re: sieve - find in header

2016-09-08 Thread @lbutlr
On Tue Sep 06 2016 07:25:38 Hajo Locke   said
> How to solve this case and find a string in arbitrary/unknown headerline?

You’ll have to create multiple sieves covering the possible headers.


Re: sieve - find in header

2016-09-06 Thread Stephan Bosch



Op 6-9-2016 om 15:25 schreef Hajo Locke:

Hello list,

have a problem with sieve script. I want to perform an action if an 
arbitrary headerline contains a defined string.

I tried with regex:

if header :regex [".*"] ["searchstri.*"]
{
fileinto "junk";
}

This is not working because regex is only used in 2nd argument 
["searchstri.*"]

In 1st argument [".*"] no regex is used, sieve expects just plain string.
Something like this would work, if "x-myheader" contains "searchstring":
if header :regex ["x-myheader"] ["searchstri.*"]

How to solve this case and find a string in arbitrary/unknown headerline?


I don't think the Sieve language supports a test like that at this time.

Regards,

Stephan.


sieve - find in header

2016-09-06 Thread Hajo Locke

Hello list,

have a problem with sieve script. I want to perform an action if an 
arbitrary headerline contains a defined string.

I tried with regex:

if header :regex [".*"] ["searchstri.*"]
{
fileinto "junk";
}

This is not working because regex is only used in 2nd argument 
["searchstri.*"]

In 1st argument [".*"] no regex is used, sieve expects just plain string.
Something like this would work, if "x-myheader" contains "searchstring":
if header :regex ["x-myheader"] ["searchstri.*"]

How to solve this case and find a string in arbitrary/unknown headerline?

Thanks,
Hajo