RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ?
I'm definitely interested in your snippets feature. I will try to get a version together some time in the next week that is compatible with the latest DQSD. I'm also definitely interested in news feeds, though I would probably need to rethink the way I use dqsd. I keep it on a second auto-hide toolbar at the top of my screen. Would news feeds keep scrolling inside the dqsd window? This would make auto-hiding the toolbar less practical. I vote for a separately dockable news feeds window, if that makes sense. The trick is really going to be displaying them in DQSD. Once I have that working, there's a multitude of display methods we can tinker with - although none of them may work well with an auto-hide. I use afeed reader that uses bubble popups that I like a lot - but I don't think that's possible with DQSD. I have to disagree with you about the separate window. Sounds like you would want aseparate new feed bar - which isn't necessarily a bad idea. It's just a different ball of wax, so to speak. -Dan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SGPSent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:21 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? Dan, I'm definitely interested in your snippets feature. I'm also definitely interested in news feeds, though I would probably need to rethink the way I use dqsd. I keep it on a second auto-hide toolbar at the top of my screen. Would news feeds keep scrolling inside the dqsd window? This would make auto-hiding the toolbar less practical. I vote for a separately dockable news feeds window, if that makes sense. Everyone, I use IE in conjunction with PC Mag's Web Highlighter utility. Here's an excerpt from the help file. --begin Web Highlighter is a Microsoft Internet Explorer (tm) Extension that is able to attach personal information to any Web page. Web Highlighter works with Internet Explorer version 4.0 and higher and requires a pointing device. Web Highlighter allows you to highlight a selected text area in a Web page and to have this text area highlighted again when you navigate back to that page later. Once a text area has been highlighted, you can attach a note to it. The note will display as an infotip when you hover this text area. You can also link the highlighted area to any Web address (URL). When clicking the highlighted area, the browser will navigate to the specified URL. Web Highlighter refers to a highlighted area, with or without notes or links, as an annotation. Moreover, you can export the annotations that you created to an XML file that any user of Web Highlighter will be able to import. This means that you can easily communicate annotations made on a Web page to another person. Web Highlighter doesn't change the original Web page in any way, even on your disk in the Temporary Internet Files folder. It only changes the in-memory representation of the page once it has been loaded by Internet Explorer. So if you save the current page to a file, you'll get the original file, not the annotated version. --end "John W. Bairen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Dan,I was one of the original opponents to the Snippets feature. But then I hada use for it, so I was forced to change my opinion. I have a few questionsfor you about it.1. Can you think of any way it can become an add-on? I'm probably not muchhelp, but I'm very willing to try and help.2. Does it only pull stuff from web pages? Can it pull stuff from Word,other apps, etc.?3. Where can I get it? Where can I get a 3.0 beta 24 flavor of it?4. What other DQSD utils do you have.Sorry if I discouraged you when you were working on Snippets. I do softwaretesting for a large company and am always fighting the battle of functioncreep and scope creep because 1 customer wants it and is willing to pay forit.Thanks,JB-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin, DanielSent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:09 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespellexample) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed fromSF?If it were a separate set of XML files, this would work fine. Unfortunatelyit alters search.htm and helpmenu.js. Given that, if it's not part of thebase code, it has to be updated with every release. To dqsd's credit, thatis far too frequent to make it practical. The RSS news feed stuff might bepossible as an add-on. I honestly haven't had a chance to try it.Does JS support overloaded functions? It's perhaps the only way I can thinkof effectively doing things like this. Go for it.Fo
Re: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ?
As it relates to DQSD, I've found the DQSD direction to be focused on pure searching. I maintain a separate build of DQSD with an add-on I wrote that I call Snippets. Snippets allow you to save chunks of web pages (without knowing HTML). When I introduced it originally, some felt it was outside the scope of DQSD. Dan, Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? Your example was one reason I went through the pain of experimenting with the GoogleSpell add-on. If there's missing functionality that needs to be added to DQSD which is generic enough for all searches/add-ons to take advantage of, then it makes sense to add the functionality. _But_, if core functionality is modified to support a single add-on or search, then we're setting a bad precendent. One that will result in DQSD having various chunks of code in the core source which are only used by a single add-on/search. IMO, some of the core code already matches that description (calendar) and should be moved to an add-on. I've since though of integrating various features into DQSD. I've done a lot of (unrelated) work with RSS new feeds, and I have considered adding the feature to DQSD to show a news ticker during idle time. RSS is really the first fruit of a semantic web coming to harvest. However, the DQSD direction of sticking to the bread and butter searching leaves me a little uninterested in working on such things. Again, I'd recommend trying to add it as an add-on. If there were enough interest I'd love to fork DQSD into something less constrictive. At the same time, I'd hate to do it too. Go for it. Glenn --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ?
Dan, I was one of the original opponents to the Snippets feature. But then I had a use for it, so I was forced to change my opinion. I have a few questions for you about it. 1. Can you think of any way it can become an add-on? I'm probably not much help, but I'm very willing to try and help. 2. Does it only pull stuff from web pages? Can it pull stuff from Word, other apps, etc.? 3. Where can I get it? Where can I get a 3.0 beta 24 flavor of it? 4. What other DQSD utils do you have. Sorry if I discouraged you when you were working on Snippets. I do software testing for a large company and am always fighting the battle of function creep and scope creep because 1 customer wants it and is willing to pay for it. Thanks, JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin, Daniel Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? If it were a separate set of XML files, this would work fine. Unfortunately it alters search.htm and helpmenu.js. Given that, if it's not part of the base code, it has to be updated with every release. To dqsd's credit, that is far too frequent to make it practical. The RSS news feed stuff might be possible as an add-on. I honestly haven't had a chance to try it. Does JS support overloaded functions? It's perhaps the only way I can think of effectively doing things like this. Go for it. Forking is...never the best solution, IMHO. This is why I've kept my current fork pretty much to myself. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Carr Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? As it relates to DQSD, I've found the DQSD direction to be focused on pure searching. I maintain a separate build of DQSD with an add-on I wrote that I call Snippets. Snippets allow you to save chunks of web pages (without knowing HTML). When I introduced it originally, some felt it was outside the scope of DQSD. Dan, Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? Your example was one reason I went through the pain of experimenting with the GoogleSpell add-on. If there's missing functionality that needs to be added to DQSD which is generic enough for all searches/add-ons to take advantage of, then it makes sense to add the functionality. _But_, if core functionality is modified to support a single add-on or search, then we're setting a bad precendent. One that will result in DQSD having various chunks of code in the core source which are only used by a single add-on/search. IMO, some of the core code already matches that description (calendar) and should be moved to an add-on. I've since though of integrating various features into DQSD. I've done a lot of (unrelated) work with RSS new feeds, and I have considered adding the feature to DQSD to show a news ticker during idle time. RSS is really the first fruit of a semantic web coming to harvest. However, the DQSD direction of sticking to the bread and butter searching leaves me a little uninterested in working on such things. Again, I'd recommend trying to add it as an add-on. If there were enough interest I'd love to fork DQSD into something less constrictive. At the same time, I'd hate to do it too. Go for it. Glenn --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id
