Re: [drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread LeeCraner
And another method is to rub the tube on the hairs at the back of your neck.  
The oils will help read the tube markings (amazing what we remember from the 
old days).

73
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Re: [drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread Garey Barrell


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Tube markings are generally difficult to rub off, at least tubes less 
than 50 years old.   The early tubes were often marked with ink, which 
could wear or be washed off.  Miniature tubes mostly were marked with an 
etch process that is very tough.


That being said, I would try to wipe them first with a dry cloth, 
minimizing pressure or rubbing on the tube number.  A cloth dampened 
with water, not wet, would be the next choice.


Tubes that have had the number washed or rubbed off can often be read by 
breathing gently on the glass, as in cleaning eyeglasses, which will 
make the number appear.  Another technique is to put the tube in the 
freezer and then when it's removed the number will be visible briefly.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

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Donley wrote:
When restoring a tube type radio, the restoration looks better when 
the tubes are nice and shiny. But cleaning tubes is hazardous to tube 
identification. The markings usually come off easier than the dirt.
 
What are recommended methods of cleaning tubes?
 
Also, is there a method of reading the markings on tubes that 
have been smudged or with partially or totally removed markings? I 
seem to recall someone mentioning that the markings slightly etch the 
glass and there is a way to make the markings identifiable. Was I 
dreaming?
 
If there is no way to identify an unmarked tube, what good is it?
 
Dick
KC9UB 



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[drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread Donley
When restoring a tube type radio, the restoration looks better when the tubes 
are nice and shiny. But cleaning tubes is hazardous to tube identification. The 
markings usually come off easier than the dirt.

What are recommended methods of cleaning tubes?

Also, is there a method of reading the markings on tubes that have been smudged 
or with partially or totally removed markings? I seem to recall someone 
mentioning that the markings slightly etch the glass and there is a way to make 
the markings identifiable. Was I dreaming?

If there is no way to identify an unmarked tube, what good is it?

Dick
KC9UB 

Re: [drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread Garey Barrell


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Lee -

Another is alongside your nose..   Wonders of modern science!

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

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www.k4oah.com



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And another method is to rub the tube on the hairs at the back of your 
neck.  The oils will help read the tube markings (amazing what we 
remember from the old days).


73
Lee WB6SSW



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Re: [drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread Dan Ringer

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You might also try a soft (#2) lead pencil. Rub the side of the lead over 
the (absent) 
markings.
You can read the tube type until you rub it off (again)

(Funny the stuff you pick up in 45 years as a ham.)

Dan, K8WV



On 5 Dec 2007 at 15:39, Donley wrote:

 
 When restoring a tube type radio, the restoration looks better when the tubes 
 are nice and shiny. 
 But cleaning tubes is hazardous to tube identification. The markings usually 
 come offeasier than 
 the dirt. 
 
 What are recommended methods of cleaning tubes? 
 
 Also, is there a method ofreading the markings ontubes that havebeen smudged 
 or with partially 
 or totally removed markings? I seem to recall someone mentioning that the 
 markings slightly etch 
 the glass and there is a way tomake the markingsidentifiable. Was I dreaming? 
 
 If there is no way to identify an unmarked tube, what good is it? 
 
 Dick 
 KC9UB


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Re: [drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread Dennis Monticelli

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I clean the tube envelope with Windex and am careful to keep off the
markings.  Qtips can be used to increase precision. I then do a light
dry rub on the letters to take off loose surface dirt.  Works pretty
well.

Identifying worn markings can sometimes be accomplished by the hot
breath method.  Apparently the condensation is different between the
naked glass and the marked glass leading to some heightened contrast.

There are some tubes that rare ecognizable without markings, but most
of the unmarked tubes remain mystery tubes.

On Dec 5, 2007 12:39 PM, Donley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 When restoring a tube type radio, the restoration looks better when the
 tubes are nice and shiny. But cleaning tubes is hazardous to tube
 identification. The markings usually come off easier than the dirt.

 What are recommended methods of cleaning tubes?

 Also, is there a method of reading the markings on tubes that have been
 smudged or with partially or totally removed markings? I seem to recall
 someone mentioning that the markings slightly etch the glass and there is a
 way to make the markings identifiable. Was I dreaming?

 If there is no way to identify an unmarked tube, what good is it?

 Dick
 KC9UB

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Re: [drakelist] Vacuum Tube markings

2007-12-05 Thread DW Harms
Hi

73, Dick PA2DW

 

On 5-12-2007 22:35:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 And another method is to rub the tube on the hairs at the back of your 
 neck. The oils will help read the tube markings (amazing what we remember 
 from the old days). 
 
 73 
 Lee WB6SSW 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters

2007-12-05 Thread W4RXN

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Gary
Are the 755 bulbs OK to use in TR-4 and TR-4C and the RV sries VFO's ?
Thanks
73
Wayne
W4RXN

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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters



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 Gary -

 That has been my experience also.  The white background tends to
 yellow with age, imparting a greenish cast to the blue-green of the
 original filter color.

 I did find a frosted mylar sheet that diffused the light almost as
 well as the white, but still had a hot spot in the middle.

 Using the 755 bulb instead of the original 47 helps considerably in
 extending the life of both filter pieces, plus gives the added benefit
 of almost forever bulb life.

 73, Garey - K4OAH
 St Charles, IL

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 Gary Poland wrote:
 
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  Except for the white plastic used for  GARAGE SALE  signs I have yet
  to find a suitable sub for the white plastic dial background material.
  I have also tried sheet vinyl from the local hobby shop but it wont
  pass enough light.
 
 
  73, Gary W8PU
  http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8pu
 

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Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters

2007-12-05 Thread Garey Barrell


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Wayne -

Yes, they are exactly the same voltage and current rating as the #47.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

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Gary
Are the 755 bulbs OK to use in TR-4 and TR-4C and the RV sries VFO's ?
Thanks
73
Wayne
W4RXN

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From: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [drakelist] 4 line blue filters


  

Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist


gang
  

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Gary -

That has been my experience also.  The white background tends to
yellow with age, imparting a greenish cast to the blue-green of the
original filter color.

I did find a frosted mylar sheet that diffused the light almost as
well as the white, but still had a hot spot in the middle.

Using the 755 bulb instead of the original 47 helps considerably in
extending the life of both filter pieces, plus gives the added benefit
of almost forever bulb life.

73, Garey - K4OAH
St Charles, IL

Drake 2-B, 4-B  C-Line Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com

Gary Poland wrote:


Gary Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the
drakelist gang
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Except for the white plastic used for  GARAGE SALE  signs I have yet
to find a suitable sub for the white plastic dial background material.
I have also tried sheet vinyl from the local hobby shop but it wont
pass enough light.


73, Gary W8PU
http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8pu

  


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