Re: [Drakelist] TR-7 Board History and head scratching

2009-01-12 Thread David & Chris Drake

Thanks Jim,
Oh, and one board has the "called for" 2.7k resistor to ground on the 25v 
line, and the other one has a 7k resistor that looks original.  None of my 
schematics show any change called for.  Changing out the caps might be a 
good idea.

David
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From: "Jim Shorney" 

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Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-7 Board History and head scratching



Hi David,

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:43:46 -0500, David & Chris Drake wrote:


Looking for some historical information on Drake TR-7 boards.


Welcome to the world of undocumented changes. User information like
what you have provided helps add data points for the collective.


All this started because during an alignment, I could'nt get the required 
voltage on the VCO board, (shy by around 1-1.5v) and found I only had 22 
volts going in instead of 24-25v.


I can't answer your specific questions about the board changes, but I
would recommend replacing the electrolytic caps on the PS boards -
expecially C2108. They are getting old, and strange things can happen
as they go bad.

73

-Jim

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Re: [Drakelist] TR-7 Board History and head scratching

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Shorney
Hi David,

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:43:46 -0500, David & Chris Drake wrote:

>Looking for some historical information on Drake TR-7 boards.

Welcome to the world of undocumented changes. User information like
what you have provided helps add data points for the collective.


>All this started because during an alignment, I could'nt get the required 
>voltage on the VCO board, (shy by around 1-1.5v) and found I only had 22 volts 
>going in instead of 24-25v.

I can't answer your specific questions about the board changes, but I
would recommend replacing the electrolytic caps on the PS boards -
expecially C2108. They are getting old, and strange things can happen
as they go bad.

73

-Jim

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TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6, T4XC/R4C/L4B, NCL2000, SB104A, R390A, GT550A/RV550A, 
HyGain 3750, IBM PS/2 - all vintage, all the time!

HyGain 3750 User's Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HyGain_3750/
http://radiojim.exofire.net
http://incolor.inetnebr.com/jshorney
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[Drakelist] TR-7 Board History and head scratching

2009-01-12 Thread David & Chris Drake
Hi to all,
Looking for some historical information on Drake TR-7 boards.  I have before me 
two DR-7 boards, one being green, and labeled C-3849 R.  The second board is 
beige in color and looks to be a bit better quality.  It is labeled C-3849 W.  
I also see that the circuitry is slightly different.  Is the W a newer board?

Next up, the power supply boards.  Also have two before me, both green, one 
labeled B-3970 L and the other is B-3970 W.  Again, the circuitry is slightly 
different.  The later has a 0.05 ceramic cap bridgeing the center taps of the 
two onboard transistors.  The L board has the same cap, but , its on the 
circuit board.  Both have additional resistors on the bottom across R2129 and 
R2130.  On the W board these appear to be 66 ohm each (if my eyes are seeing 
correct).  The L board has resistors in the same position and these are 68 ohm 
resistors (ok, close).  By the schematic, (and I have both the original 78 
manual and the 80 revised editions), these two "on board" resistors should be 
15 ohms.  Checking both boards, (I did'nt pull the resistors to check their 
value), they are in fact marked 15 ohm and are carbon comp.  Simple 
calculations net out just a shade over 12 ohms equivalent.  I realize its not a 
big difference, but why was it done?  Increase the current to the T-2101 
Transformer?  Which in turn would raise the voltage on the 25v line?

So, the questions are, 1) Whats the history in the labeling, and 2) Are the 
bridging resistors on the underside of both power supply boards factory wiring?

All this started because during an alignment, I could'nt get the required 
voltage on the VCO board, (shy by around 1-1.5v) and found I only had 22 volts 
going in instead of 24-25v.

Thanks in advance for your input.
David
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[Drakelist] Dirty chassis b-line

2009-01-12 Thread Keith Hamilton

I have an r-4b and t-4xb which I was going to try to clean up
(the chassis are REALLY dirty). The fronts are pretty good but
the problem is the dial ring on the r-4b is faded to a dark yellow on  
one end

of the dial rotation. I am pretty sure there is no way to solve this so
I think I may use these for parts and look for another. (cleaning  
these up is

a bit beyond my abilities)
If anyone has an r-4b for sale please contact me. It doesn't have to be
perfect but should be fair cosmetically and good electrically.
I just missed out on a r-4b listed on eHam darn it.

Keith Hamilton
tu...@zoominternet.net


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Re: [Drakelist] microphone bass boost

2009-01-12 Thread Bob Donnell
Hi John,

I guess one of the questions I'd also be thinking about is whether the
filter alignment (10V regulator board) is correctly adjusted.  If the filter
skirts are set to cut off low frequency voice tones (yours), the radio's
alignment could be hurting your chances.  One way to get an idea is to use
the passband tuning to adjust the voices you receive until you hear low
frequency response like you'd like to have.  Then compare that setting by
turning the passband tuning on and off.  If there's a big difference, your
rig might benefit from realigning the passband control pots on the 10V
regulator board - after verifying that the board is putting out 10.0 VDC,
with a known accurate volt meter.

73, Bob, KD7NM

PS: I sent you a direct email last week, and resent it this morning,
expressing interest in the 1500 Hz C-Line filter, bur didn't find a
response.


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> From: drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net
> [mailto:drakelist-boun...@zerobeat.net]  On Behalf Of John Stringer
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 9:10 AM
> To:   drakelist@zerobeat.net
> Subject:  [Drakelist] microphone bass boost
> 
> My voice has virtually no bass in it and I am told my transmit signal from
> my TR7 plus Drake 7077  microphone is too high pitched. Can someone help
> me with a simple circuit to boost bass output from the microphone or offer
> me other suggestions to solve the problem?John. GI3KDR
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[Drakelist] microphone bass boost

2009-01-12 Thread John Stringer
My voice has virtually no bass in it and I am told my transmit signal from
my TR7 plus Drake 7077  microphone is too high pitched. Can someone help me
with a simple circuit to boost bass output from the microphone or offer me
other suggestions to solve the problem?John. GI3KDR.
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Re: [Drakelist] Drake QSO

2009-01-12 Thread David & Chris Drake
For all that may be interested, here's the announcement from CX for the vintage 
radio contests upcoming; http://www.qsl.asti.com/CX/Feb2009announcement.html 

A good way to have some fun with the Drakes !!
Thanks,
David 
Wd9cmd
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Tucker 
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net 
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:50 AM
  Subject: [Drakelist] Drake QSO


  I had just finished going through my C-line and cleaning everything including 
switches and buttoning it back up.  I set it up in my operating position and 
after warm up put out a CQ on 80 cw.  W0CCA, in western CO came back and we had 
a long rag chew.  Cap was running his Drake B line.  What a pleasant 
coincidence.  Couldn't have planned it better.  Cap and I also use Drake R4A or 
B with DX 60s for some cw work.  

  Rick
  W0RT


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Re: [Drakelist] Drake QSO

2009-01-12 Thread David & Chris Drake
Rick, 
As info, you can put the "tubers" to good use on CW in a couple weeks, and 
SSB/AM in February.  Classic Exchange or "CX" is sponsoring contests twice per 
year for antique or nostalgia radios.  You receive a 'multiplier' for the age 
of the equipement used.  See the Arrl Website for details at : 
http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2009/01/09/10557/?nc=1
Have fun with those Drakes !!
David
Wd9cmd
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rick Tucker 
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net 
  Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 8:50 AM
  Subject: [Drakelist] Drake QSO


  I had just finished going through my C-line and cleaning everything including 
switches and buttoning it back up.  I set it up in my operating position and 
after warm up put out a CQ on 80 cw.  W0CCA, in western CO came back and we had 
a long rag chew.  Cap was running his Drake B line.  What a pleasant 
coincidence.  Couldn't have planned it better.  Cap and I also use Drake R4A or 
B with DX 60s for some cw work.  

  Rick
  W0RT


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[Drakelist] Drake QSO

2009-01-12 Thread Rick Tucker
I had just finished going through my C-line and cleaning everything including 
switches and buttoning it back up.  I set it up in my operating position and 
after warm up put out a CQ on 80 cw.  W0CCA, in western CO came back and we had 
a long rag chew.  Cap was running his Drake B line.  What a pleasant 
coincidence.  Couldn't have planned it better.  Cap and I also use Drake R4A or 
B with DX 60s for some cw work.  

Rick
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