[Drakelist] Microphone for 4 line

2012-02-18 Thread ko1h
HI all, I just got my R4/t4 pair back from restoration and well my old shure444 
isn't getting good reports.  I was wondering what microphone currently in 
production is the consensus to use now?  I see replacement elements for the 444 
but I'm not sure I want to go that route.  Heil used to make a high impedance 
mic but I don't they do do any longer?  What are ya'll using?  What do  you 
recommend?

Thanks for opinion etc

de John ko1h 

PS if anyone is looking to sell a TR4 in need of slight tlc or just cosmetics 
please contact me

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Re: [Drakelist] Microphone for 4 line

2012-02-18 Thread Curt Nixon

Hi John:

Any low impedance balanced mic can be used to drive a HiZ input by using 
one of the small, inline transformers.  R Shack, and most music audio 
stores have them.


It must be something wrong in the 444...mine gets excellent reports on 
the TR4 and  and Twins.


Maybe just a gunked up connection or dirty switch?

Curt
KU8L

On 2/18/2012 5:55 AM, ko1h wrote:
HI all, I just got my R4/t4 pair back from restoration and well my old 
shure444 isn't getting good reports.  I was wondering what microphone 
currently in production is the consensus to use now?  I see 
replacement elements for the 444 but I'm not sure I want to go that 
route.  Heil used to make a high impedance mic but I don't they do do 
any longer?  What are ya'll using?  What do  you recommend?

Thanks for opinion etc
de John ko1h
PS if anyone is looking to sell a TR4 in need of slight tlc or just 
cosmetics please contact me

k...@cox.net mailto:k...@cox.net


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[Drakelist] L-4B/L7 Power Supply Rebuilds

2012-02-18 Thread Dino Papas
I finally bit the bullet yesterday and got around to rebuilding my L-4BPS and 
L7PS supplies, one with a Heathkit Shop board and the other with the Harbach 
version.  Both procedures went well, with the second going a LOT faster than 
the first!  I will be rebuilding a friend's L-4BPS next week and figured I 
could minimize the time to do his by working out the bugs doing mine.

As my L-4B is my main amp, and based on Evan's note to me a few years ago, I 
went ahead and changed out the 5K 7W resistor with the 13W version, replaced 
the 0.82 ohm HV line resistor and the 50K 50W bleeders as a precautionary 
measure.  In the other amp I guess I was just lazy and simply installed only 
the Harbach board.

Now sitting here thinking about it should I go back and just get it over with 
and replace the resistors in the L7PS?  Has anyone ever had a bleeder go bad?  
Or the others for that matter.  Sure, age will wear anything down.

Also, the Harbach board doesn't include the diode balancing resistors that 
Mike's board does...as the original Drake diode strings used 'em what exactly 
is the difference?  Do modern (read that better) diodes still need that 
protection?  I'm just curious.

I was pretty impressed that my 32 year old L-4BPS kept going like the Energizer 
Bunny all these years and I didn't notice any deterioration at all on the 
bodies of the orange electrolyticsbut, better safe than sorry and I'm 
looking forward to many more years of reliable operation with both amps.

Thoughts?

Dino KL0S
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Re: [Drakelist] Microphone for 4 line

2012-02-18 Thread Steve Wedge
John, I believe you can get high-Z elements from Heil, if you want to keep the 
old 444.

I use a stone-stock, no preamp D-104 and get excellent reports.

Steve Wedge, W1ES/4

I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.
- Joe Walsh

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  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:55 AM
  Subject: [Drakelist] Microphone for 4 line


  HI all, I just got my R4/t4 pair back from restoration and well my old 
shure444 isn't getting good reports.  I was wondering what microphone currently 
in production is the consensus to use now?  I see replacement elements for the 
444 but I'm not sure I want to go that route.  Heil used to make a high 
impedance mic but I don't they do do any longer?  What are ya'll using?  What 
do  you recommend?

  Thanks for opinion etc

  de John ko1h 

  PS if anyone is looking to sell a TR4 in need of slight tlc or just cosmetics 
please contact me

  k...@cox.net


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Re: [Drakelist] Microphone for 4 line

2012-02-18 Thread kc9cdt

I use the Heil Classic with the switch selectable narrow/wide on WIDE.
Get great audio reports all the time...from thise that know me.
73,
Lee


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Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 5:57 am
Subject: [Drakelist] Microphone for 4 line


HI all, I just got my R4/t4 pair back from restoration and well my old 
shure444 isn't getting good reports.  I was wondering what microphone 
currently in production is the consensus to use now?  I see replacement 
elements for the 444 but I'm not sure I want to go that route.  Heil 
used to make a high impedance mic but I don't they do do any longer?  
What are ya'll using?  What do  you recommend?

 
Thanks for opinion etc
 
de John ko1h
 
PS if anyone is looking to sell a TR4 in need of slight tlc or just 
cosmetics please contact me

 
k...@cox.net

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Re: [Drakelist] L-4B/L7 Power Supply Rebuilds

2012-02-18 Thread K9sqg
Dino et. al.


Well, let me briefly relate what I have observed and encountered when 
rebuilding L4, L4B, and L7 power supplies.  Your mileage might vary.



My experience has been that the supplies I have worked on have had in excess of 
a 50% failure rate, and maybe another 25% had whitish or light gray regions, 
typically toward one end, where there has been excessive heating suggesting and 
impending failure.  Having a stock of the resistors on hand, and having the 
supply apart, it was a quick job to replace the bleederrs for safety and better 
regulation.  Many people have failed bleeders and are totally unaware of it.



There is generally better quality control with diodes nowadays compared to 
decades ago.  Still, for as cheap as resistors are, it is a small price to pay 
for an added measure of protection, can't hurt.  There are two schools of 
thoughts on this topic so one goes with the one that is most appealing.




Final note on that 5K 7wt resistor on the underside of the supply, I too 
replace it during a standard rebuild and use two 10K 10wt resistors in 
parallel.  Unknown to many, when the original opens, it takes out the ALC pot 
which, for the L4B I haven't seen in 30 except the ones I have in stock.


Enjoy those Drakes, the Drake Nets, and our hobby.


73,


Evan, K9SQG


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Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2012 2:24 pm
Subject: [Drakelist] L-4B/L7 Power Supply Rebuilds


I finally bit the bullet yesterday and got around to rebuilding my L-4BPS and 
L7PS supplies, one with a Heathkit Shop board and the other with the Harbach 
version.  Both procedures went well, with the second going a LOT faster than 
the 
first!  I will be rebuilding a friend's L-4BPS next week and figured I could 
minimize the time to do his by working out the bugs doing mine.

As my L-4B is my main amp, and based on Evan's note to me a few years ago, I 
went ahead and changed out the 5K 7W resistor with the 13W version, replaced 
the 
0.82 ohm HV line resistor and the 50K 50W bleeders as a precautionary measure.  
In the other amp I guess I was just lazy and simply installed only the Harbach 
board.

Now sitting here thinking about it should I go back and just get it over with 
and replace the resistors in the L7PS?  Has anyone ever had a bleeder go bad?  
Or the others for that matter.  Sure, age will wear anything down.

Also, the Harbach board doesn't include the diode balancing resistors that 
Mike's board does...as the original Drake diode strings used 'em what exactly 
is 
the difference?  Do modern (read that better) diodes still need that 
protection?  I'm just curious.

I was pretty impressed that my 32 year old L-4BPS kept going like the Energizer 
Bunny all these years and I didn't notice any deterioration at all on the 
bodies 
of the orange electrolyticsbut, better safe than sorry and I'm looking 
forward to many more years of reliable operation with both amps.

Thoughts?

Dino KL0S
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