Re: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Bostian bost...@vt.edu

To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
Subject: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer


I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to 
life after about

35 years of non-use.
The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 
circuit does not
oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As 
far as I can
determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make 
the receiver
work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from 
an external
source. Before I take out/test/replace the handfull of Rs 
and Cs and also
look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on 
the list has had a
similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a 
source for a

replacement xtal?  Thanks!

Charles W4KEP

It may well be the crystal. Replacements can be 
obtained from International Crystal. I've bought many 
crystals from them and all were perfect. They know the 
parameters for Drake crystals.
You might want to post also to the other drake list 
at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrakeRadio/

It seems to me this is a fairly common problem.


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Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com 



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Re: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Morrell Siegel
the oscillator may be working but on another frequency. if you have a receiver 
that you can listen  around the 5595 wrap a few turns around the second mixer, 
hook it up to the receiver and tune around the frequency. you may have a cap or 
inductor that has changed value and the oscillator is still working. if the 
oscillator is working you can add or subtract capacitance or inductance to 
bring it to the correct frequency. i have done this many times and it works. 
mickey wa6fiz


On Nov 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Richard Knoppow 1oldle...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 
 - Original Message - From: Charles Bostian bost...@vt.edu
 To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
 Subject: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer
 
 
 I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to life after about
 35 years of non-use.
 The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 circuit does not
 oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As far as I can
 determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make the receiver
 work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from an external
 source. Before I take out/test/replace the handful of Rs and Cs and also
 look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on the list has had a
 similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a source for a
 replacement xtal?  Thanks!
 
 Charles W4KEP
 
It may well be the crystal. Replacements can be obtained from 
 International Crystal. I've bought many crystals from them and all were 
 perfect. They know the parameters for Drake crystals.
You might want to post also to the other drake list at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrakeRadio/
 
It seems to me this is a fairly common problem.
 
 
 --
 Richard Knoppow
 Los Angeles
 WB6KBL
 dickb...@ix.netcom.com 
 
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[Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Charles Bostian
My thanks to everyone who has sent me ideas.  At one of your suggestions I
built a simple circuit to check the xtal performance.  It works fine -
series resonant at 5563.3 kHz and parallel resonant between 5599.1 and
5599.3 kHz.  So the problem must be in the four caps I haven't checked
yet.  Naturally they are the four hardest parts to get to!

Charles W4KEP

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Re: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer

2014-11-15 Thread Dennis Monticelli
It could very well be a bad crystal.  If you or a friend have a crystal not
too far from that frequency, you can wire it in and just see if the circuit
oscillates.

Dennis AE6C

On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Morrell Siegel mandbsie...@charter.net
wrote:

 the oscillator may be working but on another frequency. if you have a
 receiver that you can listen  around the 5595 wrap a few turns around the
 second mixer, hook it up to the receiver and tune around the frequency. you
 may have a cap or inductor that has changed value and the oscillator is
 still working. if the oscillator is working you can add or subtract
 capacitance or inductance to bring it to the correct frequency. i have done
 this many times and it works. mickey wa6fiz


 On Nov 15, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Richard Knoppow 1oldle...@ix.netcom.com
 wrote:

 
  - Original Message - From: Charles Bostian bost...@vt.edu
  To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:58 PM
  Subject: [Drakelist] Drake R4B 5595 kHz oscillator/mixer
 
 
  I am trying to bring my old R4B/T4XB combination back to life after
 about
  35 years of non-use.
  The 5595 kHz oscillator part of the second mixer 12BE6 circuit does not
  oscillate.  I have tried several tubes with no effect.  As far as I can
  determine, the tube is functioning normally and I can make the receiver
  work (after a fashion) by injecting a 5595 kHz signal from an external
  source. Before I take out/test/replace the handful of Rs and Cs and also
  look for a replacement xtal, I am wondering if anyone on the list has
 had a
  similar problem.  In particular, can you recommend a source for a
  replacement xtal?  Thanks!
 
  Charles W4KEP
 
 It may well be the crystal. Replacements can be obtained from
 International Crystal. I've bought many crystals from them and all were
 perfect. They know the parameters for Drake crystals.
 You might want to post also to the other drake list at:
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DrakeRadio/
 
 It seems to me this is a fairly common problem.
 
 
  --
  Richard Knoppow
  Los Angeles
  WB6KBL
  dickb...@ix.netcom.com
 
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