Re: [Drakelist] T-4XB as exciter

2011-02-25 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
With regard to Garey's suggestion to acquire a VFO, I have some 
hands-on experience with the various VFO types with my Globe Scout 
transmitter that goes back to my early General license days in the 
50's.  The Globe Scout used a 6V6 oscillator, the same as the Globe 
King 500A uses, and the only reasonably priced VFO on the market at 
the time that would drive it on all bands was the WRL 755 with its 
6BC6 buffer stage.  The others just had the VFO circuit and although 
I recall being able to eek out enough drive from a Heathkit VF-1 (a 
Johnson 122 knock-off) on 80 and 40 meters.  If you use anything but 
the WRL 755, the Millen 90711 (with a 6SK7 buffer and 6AG7 
amplifier), or maybe a Meissner Signal Shifter, there may not be 
enough moxie (technical term!) to drive it.


73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 04:07 PM 2/25/2011, Garey Barrell wrote:

Charles -

The output from the Drake transmitters is only about 0 dBm, or about 
0.25V RMS on 14 MHz ONLY.  The Globe King 500 probably requires more 
like 5-10 V RMS input on 3.5 or 7.0 MHz.


Also, there are two RCA jacks added to the rear panel that will have 
a jumper cable between them for normal operation.  Removing that 
jumper disables the PA stage by removing the Screen voltage from the PA tubes.


Much better to pick up a Heath HG-10B, Hallicrafters HA-5, WRL 755, or ...

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


Charles Ring wrote:
Thank you. Looking at the T-4XB in question, I found that 
modification was already done before I acquired it, so now I know 
how to use it.


73 de W3NU



On 2/24/2011 11:21 PM, Ron wrote:

Charles,
Only the first part of an answer.  The standard Drake factory mod 
to bypass/shutdown the finals for Drake VHF transverters is here:


http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/drake/trnsvrtr/

Not sure what all else you might need as I am not familiar with 
the Globe King 500A's other requirements.


73,
Ron WD8SBB

--- On Thu, 2/24/11, Charles Ringw...@roadrunner.com  wrote:


From: Charles Ringw...@roadrunner.com
Subject: [Drakelist] T-4XB as exciter
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 7:42 PM
A possible project I would like to do
is to use one of my two T-4XB's as a vfo/exciter (cw/rtty)
for my Globe King 500A. I know I would bypass the sweep tube
final, not sure what other adaptations would be needed. Has
anyone done this kind of thing? I would pair it with my R-4B
or my R-4C.


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[Drakelist] TR7 No Standby or Mute

2011-02-23 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Hi guys,

This morning during my vintage AM net, my antenna changeover relay 
decided to quit on me, so I switched on my TR7 to use as a 
receiver.  As there's no standby mode, before transmitting (100 
watts) I turned the RF and AF gain all the way down and manually 
switched the antenna to the TR7 with the coax switch.  It didn't work 
so well though.


As I often have both rigs on at a time, it would be nice to be able 
to mute the ones not in use rather than turn them off, especially 
those that need to stay warm.  I've looked through the TR7 manual, 
but I can't seem to find anything on a standby mode.  Does anybody 
know of a way to use the TR7's receiver with another transmitter?


Thanks  73,
Tony
K4KYO



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Re: [Drakelist] TR7 No Standby or Mute

2011-02-23 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Hi Garey,

My first reaction is, Wow!  I was hoping there was already a muting 
circuit, as with the TR7-R7 pairing, but in that case I doubt anyone 
would use the TR7 as the receiver.  I'll get my Service Manual out 
and go from there.


Thanks much!

VY 73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 01:28 PM 2/23/2011, Garey Barrell wrote:

Tony -

I'm not aware of any external 'Standby' control for the TR-7 receiver.
A quick look at the schematic shows that the AF OUTPUT chip has it's 
own +13.6 VDC source on Pin 30 of the 2nd IF/AF board.  There is a 
22 uF cap on the line, so the cut off 'might' be a little slow, but 
it looks like you could just interrupt that supply and MUTE the receiver.


There may be another way to inhibit a part of the 10R bus, (the 
'normal' standby internally is accomplished by turning off the 
entire 10R bus,) so that could also be done by control on the 
Transmit/Exciter board via Q307 and Q308.   Grounding the Base of 
Q308 would MUTE the receiver.
Unfortunately that is the inverse of Drake MUTE circuits which OPEN 
a ground connection to MUTE the receiver, so an inverter stage would 
be necessary.  Still only a transistor/resistor to invert.


There are a few spare pins and at least one RCA jack on the back 
panel that could be used.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


Richard A. (Tony) Stalls wrote:

Hi guys,

This morning during my vintage AM net, my antenna changeover relay 
decided to quit on me, so I switched on my TR7 to use as a receiver.
As there's no standby mode, before transmitting (100 watts) I 
turned the RF and AF gain all the way down and manually switched 
the antenna to the TR7 with the coax switch.  It didn't work so well though.


As I often have both rigs on at a time, it would be nice to be able 
to mute the ones not in use rather than turn them off, especially 
those that need to stay warm.  I've looked through the TR7 manual, 
but I can't seem to find anything on a standby mode.  Does anybody 
know of a way to use the TR7's receiver with another transmitter?


Thanks  73,
Tony
K4KYO



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Re: [Drakelist] Those Dishpan hands.. er radios

2011-02-22 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

At 12:52 PM 2/22/2011, TC Dailey wrote:

Dishwashers work swell on carbureators, but not so pretty good on radios.

Tom - WØEAJ


You got that right Tom!

Somebody sent me an email recently with an axiom 
that went, Bad decisions make good stories.  I 
have one about radio cabinets and dishwashers.


In the spirit of the definition of insanity being 
repeating the same failed behavior with the 
expectation of a different outcome, I have washed 
TWO Heathkit cabinets in my dishwasher.  The 
first was DX-35 cabinet and the second was an 
SB-610 station monitor.  What happened in both 
cases was that the paint fell off in sheets that 
I was able to pick up like it was paper.  Heath 
obviously had just sprayed the bare metal without 
priming it and left it at that.  I guess the idea 
was to make it look good in the showroom, but after that, who cares?


That said, I've been cleaning stuff in the 
dishwasher for years, generally with the desired 
result.  However, I'd suggest not doing that with painted items.


73,
Tony
K4KYO



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[Drakelist] Cracked MN2700 Reactive Range Switch Knobs

2011-02-18 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Are you guys tired of my MN2700 saga yet?  I certainly am!

Anyway...

One of the little cylindrical push-on knobs on the two horizontal 
reactive range switches broke apart when I grasped it and I think the 
other one is cracked and not far from breaking.  Does anybody have 
any spares or know of a source?


Thanks!

Tony
K4KYO 




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Re: [Drakelist] The X-Lock for the TR-7

2011-02-12 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
One of the guys I chat with fairly often on 75 meters, Morris 
Dillingham (KI4IUA), has installed X-Lock kits on a Heathkit 
transceiver and also a Swan 270B Cygnet and he reports they pretty 
much eliminated the VFO drift in both cases.  He said the Swan's 
drift was about 3 Hz.


Given what similar huff-puff kits cost, they appear to be an 
excellent value if you have need for one of them.  At today's 
exchange rate, the cost for an X-Lock kit is 
$31.26.  (http://www.xe.com/ucc/)


Cumbria Designs: http://www.cumbriadesigns.co.uk/

73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 01:12 AM 2/12/2011, Ron wrote:
I bought my x-lock which arrived a few weeks ago.  With input from 
Joe KC9LAD on the watch outs and rit interface resistor network, I 
built and installed my x-lock in one day.  I did make a minor change 
of putting the headers for the plugs in sideways. Mounting on the 
bottom of the main TR7 board, that allowed me to keep the device 
plugs so that I can unplug if needed.  This is a good kit, but not a 
Heathkit, so have at least some electronic knowledge before you start.


Since I get only limited on the air time, I can only say that to 
date, I absolutely love the thing.   As net control, I no long bump 
the dial as my TR7 coasts around. The price with British pounds to 
dollar conversion, shipping etc is about $40.


Just my $.02

73,
Ron WD8SBB

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joe Pyles epy...@indy.rr.com wrote:

From: Joe Pyles epy...@indy.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] The X-Lock for the TR-7
To: Drakelist drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 9:43 AM

I bought an RV75 several years ago to stop drifting. It works very 
well. But I installed Conny's DAFC in both of my TR7As and seldom 
use the RV75 any more. I use it for split but thats about it.
  With the DAFC I can turn on the TR7A and immediately begin using 
it with no drift . The modification is completely reversible so if 
you want to make the radio back to original no one
  would ever know it's been there. By the way the installation is 
far from open heart surgery you don't even have remove the top 
cover just the bottom plate, solder 4 wires and 2 coax
  cables and your done. You don't have align anything just put the 
bottom cover back on and use the radio the same as always except no drift.


  73 Joe KC9LAD




Tom,

I did a bit of research on huff-puff stabilizers a month or so back 
and the one that seems to be preferred for the TR7 is DL1SDQ's 
Digital Automatic Frequency Control.  It's about $114.  Info on 
it can be found at http://www.conny-dl1sdq.de/http://www.conny-dl1sdq.de


Incidentally, after a good bit of research on the subject, I 
decided to not make any changes to my TR7.  It is what it is and I 
thought I'd leave it that way.  The best stability solution without 
doing open heart surgery on it is probably to get an RV-75 although 
they're a bit scarce and when you do find one, it's likely be a bit 
on the pricey side.


73,
Tony
K4KYO



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Re: [Drakelist] The X-Lock for the TR-7

2011-02-12 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

At least we don't have that EU 20% Value Added Tax!  Not yet anyway...

73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 06:33 PM 2/12/2011, Ron wrote:
For anyone thinking of purchase, be sure to check with your credit 
card about fees.  Mine charged a flat $2 transaction (money 
exchange) fee.   Others may charge more.


73
Ron WD8SBB

--- On Sat, 2/12/11, Richard A. (Tony) Stalls rasta...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Richard A. (Tony) Stalls rasta...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] The X-Lock for the TR-7
To: Drakelist drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Saturday, February 12, 2011, 11:41 AM

One of the guys I chat with fairly often on 75 meters, Morris 
Dillingham (KI4IUA), has installed X-Lock kits on a Heathkit 
transceiver and also a Swan 270B Cygnet and he reports they pretty 
much eliminated the VFO drift in both cases.  He said the Swan's 
drift was about 3 Hz.


Given what similar huff-puff kits cost, they appear to be an 
excellent value if you have need for one of them.  At today's 
exchange rate, the cost for an X-Lock kit is $31.26.  ( 
http://www.xe.com/ucc/)


Cumbria Designs: 
http://www.cumbriadesigns.co.uk/http://www.cumbriadesigns.co.uk/


73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 01:12 AM 2/12/2011, Ron wrote:
I bought my x-lock which arrived a few weeks ago.  With input from 
Joe KC9LAD on the watch outs and rit interface resistor network, 
I built and installed my x-lock in one day.  I did make a minor 
change of putting the headers for the plugs in sideways. Mounting 
on the bottom of the main TR7 board, that allowed me to keep the 
device plugs so that I can unplug if needed.  This is a good kit, 
but not a Heathkit, so have at least some electronic knowledge 
before you start.


Since I get only limited on the air time, I can only say that to 
date, I absolutely love the thing.   As net control, I no long bump 
the dial as my TR7 coasts around. The price with British pounds to 
dollar conversion, shipping etc is about $40.


Just my $.02

73,
Ron WD8SBB

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Joe Pyles epy...@indy.rr.com wrote:
From: Joe Pyles epy...@indy.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] The X-Lock for the TR-7
To: Drakelist drakelist@zerobeat.net
Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 9:43 AM

I bought an RV75 several years ago to stop drifting. It works very 
well. But I installed Conny's DAFC in both of my TR7As and seldom 
use the RV75 any more. I use it for split but thats about it.
  With the DAFC I can turn on the TR7A and immediately begin using 
it with no drift . The modification is completely reversible so if 
you want to make the radio back to original no one
  would ever know it's been there. By the way the installation is 
far from open heart surgery you don't even have remove the top 
cover just the bottom plate, solder 4 wires and 2 coax
  cables and your done. You don't have align anything just put the 
bottom cover back on and use the radio the same as always except no drift.

  73 Joe KC9LAD




Tom,
I did a bit of research on huff-puff stabilizers a month or so 
back and the one that seems to be preferred for the TR7 is 
DL1SDQ's Digital Automatic Frequency Control.  It's about 
$114.  Info on it can be found at 
http://www.conny-dl1sdq.de/http://www.conny-dl1sdq.de
Incidentally, after a good bit of research on the subject, I 
decided to not make any changes to my TR7.  It is what it is and I 
thought I'd leave it that way.  The best stability solution 
without doing open heart surgery on it is probably to get an RV-75 
although they're a bit scarce and when you do find one, it's 
likely be a bit on the pricey side.


73,
Tony
K4KYO


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Re: [Drakelist] The X-Lock for the TR-7

2011-02-11 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Tom,

I did a bit of research on huff-puff stabilizers a month or so back 
and the one that seems to be preferred for the TR7 is DL1SDQ's 
Digital Automatic Frequency Control.  It's about $114.  Info on it 
can be found at http://www.conny-dl1sdq.de


Incidentally, after a good bit of research on the subject, I decided 
to not make any changes to my TR7.  It is what it is and I thought 
I'd leave it that way.  The best stability solution without doing 
open heart surgery on it is probably to get an RV-75 although they're 
a bit scarce and when you do find one, it's likely be a bit on the pricey side.


73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 09:57 PM 2/10/2011, you wrote:

 Hi Gang,

  Here I am, stuck again. I purchased a Cambria Designs X-Lock 
frequency stabilizer for my TR-7, and need some help. Where is the 
best place to mount it? Is there a web site that shows an 
installation? Is this the one that uses the RIT line to make 
frequency corrections?


  PS,
 My R4 is serial # 0823

 Thanks for reading this... Tom Maguire, WD8JPP


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[Drakelist] What is the TR7 Case Color?

2011-02-09 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
I visited a powder coating place today in an attempt to match the 
color of the TR7 to redo my sticky-paint MN2700 cabinet.  I spent 
about a half-hour going over hundreds of color chips without being 
able to decide which one was the closest.  They said that most colors 
have names, presumably like Saint James Gray for Collins radios, and 
if they could find out what that was, they may be able to reproduce it.


So...  Does anybody know what name of the TR7 color is?

I told them to hold off until tomorrow (02/10/10) to see if I can 
find out what it is, otherwise we're probably going to go with flat black.


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Re: [Drakelist] Blue LED Bulbs for Drakes

2011-02-03 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
Another ham directed me to a CoinTaker, pinball machine parts company 
at http://www.cointaker.com, for LED 47 replacements.  Go to the 
quick search box and search for 47 and you'll get 104 products that 
includes bundles of 100 along with both specific pinball applications 
and regular frosted bulbs in various colors.


I haven't bought any of these yet, but at only $0.69 each for the 
regular 47 replacements, I intend to to give them a try.


73,
Tony Stalls
K4KYO


At 12:47 AM 2/3/2011, Dennis Monticelli wrote:
The LEDs in this product look just like the ones that come in the 
XMAS lite strings.  That market probably drove mass production and 
low prices, which in turn enabled this outfit to build a bulb.  It 
would probably benefit from a diffuser in some applicatons.


Thanks for sharing your finding with the group.

Dennis AE6C

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Kevin Elliott 
mailto:kg...@yahoo.comkg...@yahoo.com wrote:
First I want to say I am sorry if this upsets the person that is 
making and selling the blue LED bulbs on Ebay and other web 
sites.  I just can't afford to pay $30.00 plus shipping for 2 
bulbs.   So I went looking for a different source and I found one 
that was much cheaper.  The company sells #47 Blue (or other color) 
LED bulbs. The best thing is the price... $1.58 each.  The worked 
perfect on the main dial but were not quite bright enough for the 
meters until I took the reflector off and scrubbed it white 
again.  Now for $3.18 I can but the blue bulbs in the TR-4 or even 
opt for red since I ordered some of them and they look very nice as well.


Here is the link 
http://www.centsibleamusements.com/pinball-led-44-47.aspxhttp://www.centsibleamusements.com/pinball-led-44-47.aspx


Enjoy


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Re: [Drakelist] Q about ordering

2011-01-20 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
I haven't ordered Drake crystals, but I've ordered lots of others 
from International Crystal over the years, most recently for my Swan 
500CX's 510X external oscillator.  When I order now, I call Sara 
Gore, 800-725-1426, extension 237.  Sara is familiar with taking 
amateur radio orders and as she's told me, she doesn't mind handling 
onesie and twosie orders.  She's a nice lady.


73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 11:16 AM 1/20/2011, Bob Jackson wrote:
When ordering Drake crystals from I'ntl, do I give them the band 
freq or the crystal freq that I want?


Tnx,

Bob  AG5X
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Re: [Drakelist] Solder Sucker Reccomendation

2011-01-12 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
I've used an Edsyn Soldapullt Model DS017 with good success for so 
long that I don't remember when I didn't have it.  It's 7 long and 
big enough to hold onto and have good suction.  You can easily 
re-cock it by pushing the plunger against the bench top, or 
whatever's convenient, making it a good one-hand thing while you keep 
the heat on big stuff you're de-soldering.  Beware of the little ones 
as I bought one of those at Radio Shack when I misplaced my 
Soldapullt and it was only marginally useful.


Go to http://www.edsyn.com/index.php?Mode=DesolderingTools, the 
manufacturer's web site for what they have.  The DS017 like I have is 
second from the top.


73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 01:33 PM 1/12/2011, w7...@mtaonline.net wrote:
Looking for a high quality solder sucker (the spring loaded type) 
Anybody have any reccomendations?


Thanks!
Marty/KL7AM
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[Drakelist] TR7 Drift - Many Thanks!

2011-01-09 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Hello All!

The suggestions you guys have made in response to my request for a 
TR7 drift remedy are very much appreciated.  I've read just about 
everything you've referred me to and now I'm much better informed 
about making a decision.  Thanks very, very much!!!


VY 73,
Tony
K4KYO



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[Drakelist] TR7 Drift

2011-01-01 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls
My TR7 drifts around 100-150 Hz PTO during the first hour.  After 
that it calms down a bit, but it still drifts.  I've come up with a 
couple of potential solutions, but to be truthful, I don't know 
enough to competently decide if they're what I want.


The Swan guys tell me the Cumbria Designs X-Lock huff-puff type 
frequency stabilizer (http://www.cumbriadesigns.co.uk/x-lock.htm) 
guarantees  10 Hz stability, but it's apparently better than 
that.  One person I know installed them in a Heathkit SB transceiver 
(I forget which) and a Swan 270B Cygnet and measured the drift at about 3 Hz.


I've also looked at the DL1SDQ Digital Automatic Frequency Control 
(DAFC) huff-puff stabilizer (http://www.conny-dl1sdq.de) that he says 
is intended for the TR7, although it appears it's not adaptable for 
RV7.  It's about $114 as compared to the X-Lock for about $30, as of 
yesterday's Euro and Pound exchange rates.


Does anybody have any experience with either of these huff-puff 
stabilizers, or is there a better way?  How about for the RV7?


Thanks and Happy New Year!

73,
Tony
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Re: [Drakelist] Six Meter Options

2010-12-31 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Hi Kevin,

I was very active on 6 meter AM in 57-59.  I used a Globe Scout 680 
with my HQ-140-X and an International Crystal 6 meter converter with 
a 5 element Hy Gain beam on a 20 foot pole in my back yard and had 
good success with it.  My rig was pretty typical of the time, so if 
you want to simulate a 50's era 6 meter station, go with a 
transmitter-receiver/converter combination.


The only sort-of transceiver I remember from then was the Gonset 
Communicator, but of course it wasn't really a transceiver as it was 
a transmitter, receiver, and power supply in the same box.


The other commercial six meter transmitters I remember from back then 
were the plate modulated Lettine 242 (what I always wanted) and the 
Johnson 6N2 with an 829B that borrowed it's power and modulator from 
a companion Viking Ranger, Viking I, or Viking II.  It seems I 
remember a lot of homebrew transmitters from back then too.


The International Crystal 6 meter converters were popular because 
they were cheap and worked pretty well.  The one we all wanted back 
then though, but couldn't afford, was the Tapetone XC-50.  If you can 
find one of those, grab onto it.


I'd recommend the Swan 250 for SSB, but only because I have lots of 
Swan experience and none whatsoever with the TR-6 although I'm highly 
confident it's as good, or very probably better.  One thing the Swan 
250 has going for it though is that it uses a pair of relatively 
plentiful and cheap 6146's rather than the sometimes hard to find and 
ridiculously expensive sweep tubes that were so popular in the 70's.


VY 73,
Tony
K4KYO

At 01:49 PM 12/31/2010, you wrote:

Hi All,

First of all, happy New Year to everyone!  Thanks for your help and 
advice throughout the year.


Now to my question.  I now have a C line station running well and I 
like it very much.  I use it primarily on AM and really like the 
vintage radio activities.  I now have two other AM stations one of 
which I am going to sell at an upcoming ham fest.  I am active on a 
six meter AM group here and would like to land some sort of vintage 
six meter station, preferably some sort of transceiver that will 
work well on true AM.  My question is, what did Drake offer along 
that line?  If not Drake, what else might you recommend to me?


Thanks and very 73.

Kevin :)
Amateur Radio:  K7RX


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Re: [Drakelist] Request For Information...

2010-12-29 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Hi Eddy,

I believe you have to register and log on to get access to email 
addresses for fellow Drake aficionados (!) you wish to contact.


VY 73  Happy New Year,
Tony
K4KYO

At 10:48 AM 12/29/2010, Diane and Edward Swynar wrote:

Hi Guys,

This request *may*, or may *not* be directly related to the Drake 
Reflector---it all depends upon your perspective! Hi Hi


Specifically---and correct me if I'm wrong---but didn't we all the 
ability not too long ago of finding a fellow Ham's e-mail address by 
logging onto qrz.com...? I tried to get on the site yesterday in 
order to update it with my new address here, but that option no 
longer appears to be available...


Did qrz.com run into privacy issues, or something,  das a 
consequence, dropped this feature...? It sure was handy. Is there 
some other way to look-up a Ham's e-mail address...?


Many thanks in advance,  my vy

~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
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Re: [Drakelist] TR7 issue

2010-12-14 Thread Richard A. (Tony) Stalls

Hello all...

I'm a newbie to the list and this is my first message to the group, 
but I've corresponded to a few individuals privately, mostly because 
I have the wisdom to know what I don't know.  The fact is that I'm in 
the process of duplicating my TR7 rig from the 1980's and from the 
day I broke open all those new factory sealed Drake boxes way back 
then until I replaced it, it functioned trouble-free, so what do I 
know about stuff that goes wrong or fixing it?  (Answer: Not much!)


I did share the remedy Ron Baker applied to my recently acquired TR7 
that in retrospect I should have posted to the group.  At the time, 
as far as I knew, it was knowledge and would have been just a lot of 
QRN.  I won't be so concerned from now on.


Far be it for me, a newcomer, to criticize how the list is run, but 
(here it comes) I don't understand why there's a response to both an 
individual and to the list.  I realize that some may subscribe to a 
daily digest and maybe the thought is the redundancy is so they'll 
get their reply right away, but why burden the real-time members with 
duplicate mailings?


Based on a time I was getting a hundred or so mailings decades ago 
from several discussion lists, many of them duplicates, I'd vote for 
the option to reply to the list, or to the individual at the 
respondent's option.


73!

Tony Stalls, K4KYO
Arlington, VA


At 12:18 AM 12/14/2010, Richard Knoppow wrote:


- Original Message - From: john joh...@nc.rr.com
To: k4...@mindspring.com; captc...@flash.net
Cc: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR7 issue


Just to jump in here and reinforce what Garey mentioned...PLEASE 
respond to the reflector and to the original poster if need 
be.  You can save the next guy with the same problem a LOT of time 
if you share your suggestions and fixes with the reflector (and the 
reflector archives).


Don't be shy, POST.:-)

John K5MO


This is the problem with different mailing lists being set up 
differently, this one, and the Collins list, is set up so that 
hitting _reply_ goes only to the original poster, one must click on 
_reply all_, then the message goes to both the original sender and 
the list and sometimes others who have responded to the thread. 
This one is going to three people plus the list if I don't edit the To: field.
I have heard arguments both ways about this arrangement. For me 
its a bit of a PITA because I subscribe to about twenty mailing 
lists and there is not consistent way of responding to posts. I've 
learned to look at the To field if I am not certain about a particular list.
Everyone thinks their way is the best way which is why we have 
political parties and brands of cola.



--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickb...@ix.netcom.com

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