Re: [Drakelist] 60 meter 50 watt equivalent from a dipole

2011-04-03 Thread tuxman
On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 11:10 -0500, Jim Shorney wrote:
 
> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tweak
> 
> "3. to make a minor adjustment to: to tweak a computer program.
> –noun
> 4. an act or instance of tweaking; a sharp, twisting pull or jerk."
 
very good all

I stand corrected.
Seems that all these years, whether in a electronic class or
instruction,
we were told to "tweak" an adjustment for the desired effect.
In other words, fine tune a circuit for maximum, efficient or best
effect.

Thus I found it difficult to accept that "tweak" also applies to 
"detuning" or reverse effect (in this case regarding the 60 mtr thread).
But that's me.

73
Ron, wb1hga




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Re: [Drakelist] 60 meter 50 watt equivalent from a dipole

2011-04-03 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:58:44 -0400, roncasa wrote:

>I always understood "tweaking" to mean maximize or peak;
>Did you mean "detune" or something to that effect?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tweak

"3. to make a minor adjustment to: to tweak a computer program.
–noun
4. an act or instance of tweaking; a sharp, twisting pull or jerk."

73

-Jim


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Re: [Drakelist] 60 meter 50 watt equivalent from a dipole

2011-04-02 Thread roncasa
- Original Message - 
From: "Kris Merschrod" 

To: "'Drake List'" 
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:36 PM
Subject: [Drakelist] 60 meter 50 watt equivalent from a dipole


Basically the FCC (I do not have the quote handy)  said that the limit 
would be the equivalent of 50 watts applied to a dipole.


So, in practice, some have tweaked their power into the transmission line 
taking into consideration the loss of the transmission going to the 
dipole. Some have also tweaked the input power according to the relative 
gain of the actual antenna - those with a vertical or mobile increase the 
input power, those hams with loops, cut back.


It is nice ham techie tweaking - not mysterious at all.


The topic involves reducing signal gain to FCC requirements on 60 mtrs.
I always understood "tweaking" to mean maximize or peak;
Did you mean "detune" or something to that effect?

72
Ron, wb1hga 



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[Drakelist] 60 meter 50 watt equivalent from a dipole

2011-04-02 Thread Kris Merschrod
Basically the FCC (I do not have the quote handy)  said that the limit would 
be the equivalent of 50 watts applied to a dipole.


So, in practice, some have tweaked their power into the transmission line 
taking into consideration the loss of the transmission going to the dipole. 
Some have also tweaked the input power according to the relative gain of the 
actual antenna - those with a vertical or mobile increase the input power, 
those hams with loops, cut back.


It is nice ham techie tweaking - not mysterious at all.

Kris KM2KM

Merschrod
123 Warren Road
Ithaca, NY 14850
www.merschrod.net
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Knoppow" <1oldle...@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Bob Spooner" ; "'Charles Ring'" ; 
"'Al'" 
Cc: "'Lou Ribble'" ; "'Drake List'" 


Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-M




- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Spooner" 

To: "'Charles Ring'" ; "'Al'" 
Cc: "'Lou Ribble'" ; "'Drake List'" 


Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-M



The information I found on the TR-M says that it has transmitting gain
control. It may be possible to apply a DC voltage to that to keep the 
output

power down to 50 Watts for 60 Meters.



73,

Bob AD3K


   Since the FCC spec is for ERP I wonder how that is calculated. The 
input to the antenna is not ERP. My understanding is ERP is the power that 
would be equivalent to what would have to go into a theoretical unipolar 
antenna. Such antennas are impossible in the practical world but are 
useful for calculating antenna gain. Even a simple dipole or vertical 
antenna has gain over a unipole, the difference may not be of more than 
academic interest but where regulations are concerned it would be worth 
knowing.



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