Re: [drakelist] Dumbish Question

2008-03-22 Thread David & Chris Drake
Hi, most importantly the receiver, R4C, had the provisions for additional 
filter options both AM, SSB and CW.  The TR4C later came out with the TR4CW 
which had a narrow CW filter built in.  This transeiver was mainly a SSB unit 
until then.  Another plus of the R4C was variable pass band tuning (PSB) as 
well as a notch filter.  Neither of these were in the TR4C or any later 
versions.  Both the R4C and TR4C had fairly hot receivers.  Many hold that the 
R4C did not reach its potential until it was "filtered up", had the optional 
noise blanker installed, and had the later "sherwood" mods performed.  Most 
active hams prefer the R4B (B'line) where the package is pretty well complete.  
The R4C's are, however, newer units and did not have the copper plated chassis. 
 Many hams today believe the R4C with sherwood mods is still competitive with 
ANY modern receiver/transciever.  See the sherwood site for more information 

Output differed from the two units.  The T4xc had two output tubes for 
nominally 120w output.  The Tr4c had three output tubes for nominally 180w 
output on the lower bands.
Add to this the comments from K9SQG and you pretty well have it.

Also, simply google up Drake radios and you'll find a wealth of information.
David
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The C-line allowed split operation and to do this with the TR-7 required the 
external RV-4 VFO or the later TR-4C with RIT.

C-line enabled cross band operation.

C-line operated 160 meters.

C-line could be used to listen on shortwave, used on WARC bands, etc.

R4C could be used for shortwave listening without having to power up the 
transmitter.

TR-4C had more output in case somebody wanted to avoid using a linear.

etc.

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Re: [drakelist] Dumbish Question

2008-03-22 Thread Dave White
The "separates" also have:

Selectable IF filters (if you populate the optional positions)
Notch filter
3 selectable AGC time constants (and "Off")
The "potential" of a superior receiver (according to the modifications and 
measurements from Rob Sherwood - and others)

Dave
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The C-line allowed split operation and to do this with the TR-7 required the 
external RV-4 VFO or the later TR-4C with RIT.

C-line enabled cross band operation.

C-line operated 160 meters.

C-line could be used to listen on shortwave, used on WARC bands, etc.

R4C could be used for shortwave listening without having to power up the 
transmitter.

TR-4C had more output in case somebody wanted to avoid using a linear.

etc.

etc.
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Re: [drakelist] Dumbish Question

2008-03-22 Thread K9SQG

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The C-line allowed split operation and to do this with the TR-7 required the 
external RV-4 VFO or the later TR-4C with RIT.

C-line enabled cross band operation.

C-line operated 160 meters.

C-line could be used to listen on shortwave, used on WARC bands, etc.

R4C could be used for shortwave listening without having to power up the 
transmitter.

TR-4C had more output in case somebody wanted to avoid using a linear.

etc.

etc.
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[drakelist] Dumbish Question

2008-03-22 Thread k8jdc
Hi all,

 Sorry for such a basic question, but I've been wondering why Drake made 
both a transceiver (TR-4C) and a receiver/transmitter pair (R-4C + T-4XC) in 
the same line.  Did the separate receiver/transmitter pair offer better 
performance than the transceiver in some way?  I would appreciate a little 
background on why they offered all three units.  Thanks...

73,

Dave / K8JDC (who is talking about C-line equipment but really has designs on 
adding a TR-7 to his shack some day)