Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Don, and anyone else on the list whom I may have offended. I was not try to offend anyone, or suggest anyone is not correct in statements about being careful with cleaners on the wafers and or how to clean up after a screwup. Keith, In my mind it only makes sense to try something that someone suggests may work which requires virtually no effort and is guaranteed to not do further harm before trying still more fixes. Your decision. Let us know what you do and how it turns out. Jason, I was not alive in the 50s. My experience was in the late 80s with a similar product to DeOxit which stated on the spray can that it was safe on all materials. I did not want to suggest self healing with time and heat as I do not know if DeOxit will dry from the wafers like the stuff I had. I would still be a bit worried, but to try drying is a very inexpensive if it works. 73, Ron On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Jason Buchanan wrote: I was lucky years ago with self healing (drying of wafers) from spray Well, when the guy told me that he did this I thought he was nuts but his explanation for not being worried was that the material in the Drake rigs was not as spongy/porous like the old stuff used in TV sets in the 50s. He -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
I used 100% DeOxit from a needle applicator on my R4B wafer switches. Being 100%, it did a good job even on the heavy oxide buildup. I was careful not to get excess on the wafers themselves even though previous wafer switch cleaings (of lesser rigs) with the 5% spray turned out just fine. Most folks use the 5% spray because it is commonly available and easy to apply. But you have to soak components in the carrier fluid just to get a decent amount of active ingredient on the contacts themselves. One advantage to the spray is the washing effect of the runoff. A further disadvantage is having that runoff coat everything in the vicinityanother reason why I'm increasingly just rifle shooting with the 100% stuff. Denny AE6COn 1/8/06, Steve Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang--I have never had problems with de-oxit on switch wafers in my National, Clegg, Gonset and Hallicrafters equipment.I think I may have even usedit on my 2B at one point or another.For general cleaning purposes oneither electronics or my smoking pipes collection, I use ethanol.I buy the everclear variety from my local package goods store and use itsparingly with q-tips and pipe cleaners.I would steer clear of thede-natured stuff, especially if it contains methanol.It cleans wellwithout dissolving most things that I want to remain behind.For lubrication, I use Kroil or Break Free sparingly.If it requiresgrease, I use the synthetic gun grease that comes in a plungerapplicator.I think it is sold as shooter's choice.Steve WA9JML-- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.netUnsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of messageZerobeat Web Page:www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net--
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Al Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Sounds like a wiener to me Al - Original Message - From: Thom R LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; drakelist@www.zerobeat.net; recipient list not shown: Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Al Parker wrote: If all else fails, just mix the EverClear with your preferred mixer and you'll soon forget it all. (don't try it straight) Visit an Italian Delicatessenthey usually have all sorts of great flavoring to give some flavor and color to the EverClear. Perhaps we could start the DEKN(Drake Everclear Key Night)...if you can copy the exchange, you're disqualified. 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, Free Classified Ads for amateur radio, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Keith Hamilton wrote: I was recently cleaning up my new R-4B and I used DeoxIT on the bandswitch contacts. My bandswitch is now rather hard to turn. I assume I messed up the switch lubrication. Anyone have any advise on bandswitch lubrication (before I mess something up) ?? I know a guy who drowned his R-4A wafer switches with the red Deoxit and they are fine 6 months after he did this. So... there you have it. GL de N1SU -- 73 Jason N1SU Jason Buchanan - Boxboro, MA Website: http://n1su.com/ -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Don and Diana Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- That may be so, Jason, but all of us have heard the horror stories of those that doused the bandswitches, had the wafers swell, and cracked them while forcing them through the bind. Best bet is to be sparing with the DeOxit, putting it only on the metal contacts, with swabs, syringes, etc as many are suggesting. We wouldn't want to give new Drake enthusiasts the idea that because one rig healed in six months that all will. 73, Don, WB5HAK - Original Message - From: Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Keith Hamilton wrote: I was recently cleaning up my new R-4B and I used DeoxIT on the bandswitch contacts. My bandswitch is now rather hard to turn. I assume I messed up the switch lubrication. Anyone have any advise on bandswitch lubrication (before I mess something up) ?? I know a guy who drowned his R-4A wafer switches with the red Deoxit and they are fine 6 months after he did this. So... there you have it. GL de N1SU -- 73 Jason N1SU Jason Buchanan - Boxboro, MA Website: http://n1su.com/ -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Al Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Jason, Rubbing alcohol is diluted with water, don't use it. Read the label of whatever you want to try. You want to absorb/dissolve/wash away anything that's penetrated the porous wafer, water will not penetrate as well nor evaporate quickly as will the straight alcohol. Besides, it's poison ;-) 73, Al, W8UT New Bern, NC BoatAnchors appreciated here http://www.thecompendium.net/radio/ soon to be at http://www.boatanchors.org http://www.hammarlund.info - Original Message - From: Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Al Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication Would isopropyl work ok or ethanol only? I'll recommend this to my R-4A buddy if he has problems. Thanks, Jason -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Jason - Rubbing alcohol from the drugstore has quite a bit of water AND often Lanolin in it. Not very good for cleaning things. Most drugstores also carry, or can get 97% Alcohol, with the remaining 3% being water. Alcohol is anhydrous? (I think that's correct) anyway, it absorbs water. A bottle of _pure_ alcohol absorbs quite a bit of water from the air if left open. Unless the switch wafers are physically distorted from the absorbed water/lubricant from the DeoxiT, (possible, but takes a LOT of DeoxiT,) the most likely culprit is the bearings and detent mechanism on the switch shaft. You can't get enough friction from just the contacts to make the switch hard to turn. A (small) drop of light oil on the shaft bushings at either end, and a bit of white grease on the ball detent mechanism will free up the mechanics. 73, Garey - K4OAH Atlanta Drake C-Line Service Manual http://www.k4oah.com Would isopropyl work ok or ethanol only? I'll recommend this to my R-4A buddy if he has problems. Thanks, Jason -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Don and Diana Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Back to my lurking mode. Sorry to have offended by actually daring to offer advice. No more from me!! - Original Message - From: Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don and Diana Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; drakelist@www.zerobeat.net; recipient list not shown: Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication I don't think it is a matter that a miracle healing occurred, but rather a comment to give the rig some time before you go forcing the band switch, and or trying to correct the error with other procedures. I was lucky years ago with self healing (drying of wafers) from spray cleaners. Reports are that the rig in question is already working a bit better (likely from the DeOxit drying our of the wafers). Jason is not saying anything more then give it some time before rushing into what is a real pain at best, and potentially a disaster at worse with fixes to the ill fated fix. Given that these are tube rigs, I would just let it run 24 hours a day for a week or so (pull the finals on TXs). Hope that the DeOxit (or any other cleaner for that matter) dries out of the wafer from the heat of the rig enough that it will work without further potential need of mucking inside the rig with still more chemicals. Keep an eye on it for return symptoms and the need for some other form of fix. A Self healing (aka self drying out) fix is just as good as any other if it gets the job done. Most of us have other rigs besides our babies. In this case, let the baby try to dry out itself while you use your ricebox (or better yet your TR7 or other Drake rig). If it works (or works well enough) you are wiser for the experience, and a lot less stressed out from the repair of the ill fated repair. If it doesn't work, all you did was loose a couple weeks. 73, Ron Visit my astronomy home page. http://www.dma.org/~wagner Amateur Radio Station: WD8SBB - Ron and KB8NRP - Joann On Sun, 8 Jan 2006, Don and Diana Cunningham wrote: suggesting. We wouldn't want to give new Drake enthusiasts the idea that because one rig healed in six months that all will. 73, Don, WB5HAK -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I was lucky years ago with self healing (drying of wafers) from spray cleaners. Reports are that the rig in question is already working a bit better (likely from the DeOxit drying our of the wafers). Jason is not saying anything more then give it some time before rushing into what is a real pain at best, and potentially a disaster at worse with fixes to the ill fated fix. Well, when the guy told me that he did this I thought he was nuts but his explanation for not being worried was that the material in the Drake rigs was not as spongy/porous like the old stuff used in TV sets in the 50s. He also said it was nearly impossible to keep it off of the switch material because it penetrates and seeps like gun oil ruins bullets when the the oil seeps past the primer (but then again I wouldn't store bullets for long periods of time in my guns but that's a different topic altogether). Me, personally, I think i'm going to wait until I have a chance to go by Ace Hardware and pick up some of that 97% denatured alcohol to have handy if I make a mess trying to clean my R-4B. By the looks of it I may try attaching one small drop of Deoxit on two of the switch contacts and work the stuff through the switch that way... but as black as they are I don't see how i'm going to make any difference with so little cleaning solution for so much black goo. Some of those places on the 2nd and 3rd switch are pretty cramped - I don't think I could get half a q-tip in there! But i'm in R-4/T-4 heaven now so the B line will get to age a bit longer first. 73 Jason N1SU -- Jason Buchanan - Boxboro, MA Website: http://n1su.com/ -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Agreed, I have used Deoxit on the metallic surfaces and a bit of gun oil on the bearings and races-very sparingly- and my old 4 line is smooth as silk. Good DX! Mike W4DL - Original Message - From: Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Drake list drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication Garey Barrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Jason - Rubbing alcohol from the drugstore has quite a bit of water AND often Lanolin in it. Not very good for cleaning things. Most drugstores also carry, or can get 97% Alcohol, with the remaining 3% being water. Alcohol is anhydrous? (I think that's correct) anyway, it absorbs water. A bottle of _pure_ alcohol absorbs quite a bit of water from the air if left open. Unless the switch wafers are physically distorted from the absorbed water/lubricant from the DeoxiT, (possible, but takes a LOT of DeoxiT,) the most likely culprit is the bearings and detent mechanism on the switch shaft. You can't get enough friction from just the contacts to make the switch hard to turn. A (small) drop of light oil on the shaft bushings at either end, and a bit of white grease on the ball detent mechanism will free up the mechanics. 73, Garey - K4OAH Atlanta Drake C-Line Service Manual http://www.k4oah.com Would isopropyl work ok or ethanol only? I'll recommend this to my R-4A buddy if he has problems. Thanks, Jason -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
[drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
When I lived in the Midwest, there was a product "HEET" that would remove moisture from gas tanks of automobiles. I don't know if there are other additives in it that would be harmful but it might remove moisture from the bandswitch wafers. I have not tried it but maybe someone could explain why it might or might not work. Just a thought. Bob Wade - W6RTW
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Seems like HEET has methyl alcohol as the main ingredient. Probably better stay away from this, since methanol is so toxic. (It did help my 1973 Plymouth Fury III make it through some Missouri winters though) 73, Mark N5KAE - Original Message - From: Bob Wade To: drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication When I lived in the Midwest, there was a product "HEET" that would remove moisture from gas tanks of automobiles. I don't know if there are other additives in it that would be harmful but it might remove moisture from the bandswitch wafers. I have not tried it but maybe someone could explain why it might or might not work. Just a thought. Bob Wade - W6RTW
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Steve Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I have never had problems with de-oxit on switch wafers in my National, Clegg, Gonset and Hallicrafters equipment. I think I may have even used it on my 2B at one point or another. For general cleaning purposes on either electronics or my smoking pipes collection, I use ethanol. I buy the everclear variety from my local package goods store and use it sparingly with q-tips and pipe cleaners. I would steer clear of the de-natured stuff, especially if it contains methanol. It cleans well without dissolving most things that I want to remain behind. For lubrication, I use Kroil or Break Free sparingly. If it requires grease, I use the synthetic gun grease that comes in a plunger applicator. I think it is sold as shooter's choice. Steve WA9JML -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
chortle - my dad said it was 75 today in Joplin. So much for those Missouri winters! We got 3 inches of snow in Beantown today - 25F outside now! 73 Jason N1SU -- Jason Buchanan - Boxboro, MAWebsite: http://n1su.com/ - Original Message - From: MNACE To: Bob Wade ; drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 19:05 Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication Seems like HEET has methyl alcohol as the main ingredient. Probably better stay away from this, since methanol is so toxic. (It did help my 1973 Plymouth Fury III make it through some Missouri winters though) 73, Mark N5KAE - Original Message - From: Bob Wade To: drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication When I lived in the Midwest, there was a product "HEET" that would remove moisture from gas tanks of automobiles. I don't know if there are other additives in it that would be harmful but it might remove moisture from the bandswitch wafers. I have not tried it but maybe someone could explain why it might or might not work. Just a thought. Bob Wade - W6RTW
[drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Keith Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I was recently cleaning up my new R-4B and I used DeoxIT on the bandswitch contacts. My bandswitch is now rather hard to turn. I assume I messed up the switch lubrication. Anyone have any advise on bandswitch lubrication (before I mess something up) ?? Thanks to all on the list for the help! 73 Keith Hamilton, N8QO -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
RE: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
EricJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Can't say that I know more, but I agree with you about spraying old wafer switches. No telling what these new products will do to them. I use a product called Rid-Ox which is pretty much the same thing as deoxit. It's in a spray can, but I just spray a tiny amount in the lid and clean the metal contacts with a good quality Q-tip that doesn't leave cotton fuzz in its wake. Works very nice. The Rid-Ox also has a lubricant in it that leaves a protective film and the switches rotate nice and smooth. I'm not recommending Rid-Ox over deoxit. I'm just putting another vote in for applying the material only to the metal. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wagner Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 4:26 PM To: Keith Hamilton Cc: drakelist@www.zerobeat.net; recipient list not shown: Subject: Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication Ron Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Keith, I would guess that you got moisture on the wafer material (should just be on the metal). That swells the wafer material. I would wait a week or so before going further. I was lucky enough have the cleaner I used (years ago) to dry out of the wafers. I am not sure if DeOxit will do the same, but I have never used spray cleaners since. I have a needle dropper bottle of deoxit and carefully apply it only to the metal. Someone else may know more. If so please advise for all to learn. 73, Ron Visit my astronomy home page. http://www.dma.org/~wagner Amateur Radio Station: WD8SBB - Ron and KB8NRP - Joann On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Keith Hamilton wrote: Keith Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I was recently cleaning up my new R-4B and I used DeoxIT on the bandswitch contacts. My bandswitch is now rather hard to turn. I assume I -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Al Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- Hi Keith, As others have said, it sounds like perhaps you sprayed DeOxit on the wafers. Now the question is, what to do about it, not why is it. I'd suggest getting some EverClear at the local ABC/liquor store. It's straight grain alcohol, 180 or 190 proof. (it's inexpensive) Use a small syringe or hypodermic needle to spray some of it on each wafer to saturate them and drive the residual cleaner/DeOxit out. Let dry and try again. Also maybe you've washed any lubricant out if the indent wafer at one end of the switch. Put a drop of oil on the ball. If all else fails, just mix the EverClear with your preferred mixer and you'll soon forget it all. (don't try it straight) 73, Al, W8UT New Bern, NC BoatAnchors appreciated here http://www.thecompendium.net/radio/ soon to be at http://www.boatanchors.org http://www.hammarlund.info - Original Message - From: Keith Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 2:48 PM Subject: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication Keith Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- I was recently cleaning up my new R-4B and I used DeoxIT on the bandswitch contacts. My bandswitch is now rather hard to turn. I assume I messed up the switch lubrication. Anyone have any advise on bandswitch lubrication (before I mess something up) ?? Thanks to all on the list for the help! 73 Keith Hamilton, N8QO -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net -- -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
Re: [drakelist] R-4B bandswitch lubrication
Thom R LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang -- On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Al Parker wrote: If all else fails, just mix the EverClear with your preferred mixer and you'll soon forget it all. (don't try it straight) Visit an Italian Delicatessenthey usually have all sorts of great flavoring to give some flavor and color to the EverClear. Perhaps we could start the DEKN(Drake Everclear Key Night)...if you can copy the exchange, you're disqualified. 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, Free Classified Ads for amateur radio, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month -- Submissions:drakelist@www.zerobeat.net Unsubscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - unsubscribe drakelist in body Hopelessly Lost:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - help in body of message Zerobeat Web Page: www.zerobeat.net - sponsored by www.tlchost.net --
