Re: [Drakelist] C-Line PTO FSK Tab

2009-12-10 Thread Garey Barrell

Hi Dino -

The FSK tab was present in all the 4 Series PTOs, with the exception of 
the TR-4CwRIT where that same tab was rewired to serve as the RIT port.


The early 4 Series PTOs, with the Bipolar oscillator, had a very simple 
pair of capacitors that were connected across the oscillator voltage 
divider and the Buffer input.  An external capacitor of ~ 259 pF was 
connected from the terminal through a diode switch to ground.  When the 
diode was reverse biased, the PTO was on frequency and when the diode 
was forward biased the PTO was shifted ~850 Hz.  Less capacity was 
required for 170 Hz shift when that was developed.


The later 4 Series PTOs with the FET oscillator, required a second tap 
on the PTO linear inductor along with the capacitor across the Buffer 
input to effect the shift at the higher impedance of the FET 
oscillator.  So to answer your question, I suspect it would be difficult 
(adding the tap to the coil, linearity effects?,) to modify the RIT 
and/or 7 Series PTOs for FSK.


Effective with the TR-4CwRIT, the RTTY shift terminal was re-tasked to 
be the RIT terminal, and an internal varactor circuit was added to give 
the large shifts required for the RIT function.


According to Bill Frost, there was some concern at the time about losing 
the FSK capability, but it was determined that by that time most 
everyone was using AFSK and the FSK function was no longer needed.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line  TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


Dino Papas wrote:
When I first got my twins in 1979 I wanted to use FSKthe manual 
described the FSK tab on the PTO but it appears that in the very late 
models towards the end of the run Drake deleted the tab.  Not a big 
deal I just ran AFSK for many years.


With all the talk about the RIT tab on the TR7 PTOs I wonder if it 
would be possible to mod these late PTOs to add the FSK capability?  
This isn't a big deal either but I've always wondered and someday may 
put together my old RTTY TU and it would be nice to at least have the 
capability.


Anyone ever done it???

Dino KL0S




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Re: [Drakelist] C-Line PTO FSK Tab

2009-12-10 Thread Dino Papas
Hi Gary and thanks for the quick reply.  I guess what I don't  
understand is why the FSK tab was deleted from the late model C-line  
PTOs like I have.


Oh well, just a thought for another project in the queue of  
hundreds!  ;-)


73 -- Dino

On 10Dec2009, at 3:59 PM, Garey Barrell wrote:


Hi Dino -

The FSK tab was present in all the 4 Series PTOs, with the  
exception of the TR-4CwRIT where that same tab was rewired to serve  
as the RIT port.


The early 4 Series PTOs, with the Bipolar oscillator, had a very  
simple pair of capacitors that were connected across the oscillator  
voltage divider and the Buffer input.  An external capacitor of ~  
259 pF was connected from the terminal through a diode switch to  
ground.  When the diode was reverse biased, the PTO was on  
frequency and when the diode was forward biased the PTO was  
shifted ~850 Hz.  Less capacity was required for 170 Hz shift when  
that was developed.


The later 4 Series PTOs with the FET oscillator, required a second  
tap on the PTO linear inductor along with the capacitor across the  
Buffer input to effect the shift at the higher impedance of the FET  
oscillator.  So to answer your question, I suspect it would be  
difficult (adding the tap to the coil, linearity effects?,) to  
modify the RIT and/or 7 Series PTOs for FSK.


Effective with the TR-4CwRIT, the RTTY shift terminal was re-tasked  
to be the RIT terminal, and an internal varactor circuit was added  
to give the large shifts required for the RIT function.


According to Bill Frost, there was some concern at the time about  
losing the FSK capability, but it was determined that by that time  
most everyone was using AFSK and the FSK function was no longer  
needed.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B, C-Line  TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


Dino Papas wrote:
When I first got my twins in 1979 I wanted to use FSKthe  
manual described the FSK tab on the PTO but it appears that in the  
very late models towards the end of the run Drake deleted the  
tab.  Not a big deal I just ran AFSK for many years.


With all the talk about the RIT tab on the TR7 PTOs I wonder if it  
would be possible to mod these late PTOs to add the FSK  
capability?  This isn't a big deal either but I've always wondered  
and someday may put together my old RTTY TU and it would be nice  
to at least have the capability.


Anyone ever done it???

Dino KL0S


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Re: [Drakelist] C-Line PTO FSK Tab

2009-12-10 Thread Don Cunningham

Hi Garey,

Oh well, can't have it all, and I do like the RIT feature too.
73,
Don, WB5HAK

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