Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
Hi Boris, On 30/10/2020 10:08, Boris Brezillon wrote: > The "propagate output flags" and soon to be added "use > timing->input_flags if present" logic should only be used as a fallback > for bridges that do not support dynamic bus format/flags negotiation > IMHO. Ideally we'd want to convert all bridges to do this dynamic bus > format/flags negotiation and get rid of timings->input_bus_flags once > this is done, but that's likely to take time. So, if your driver > implements the ->atomic_check() hook and needs specific input flags, > I'd recommend setting the input flags there instead of specifying it > through timings->input_bus_flags. What is bus flags negotiation? Don't we have negotiation only for bus formats? Bus flags are just set, and the previous bridge in the chain has to use those flags. Or do you just refer to setting the bus flags dynamically in atomic_check, versus static in input_bus_flags? Tomi -- Texas Instruments Finland Oy, Porkkalankatu 22, 00180 Helsinki. Y-tunnus/Business ID: 0615521-4. Kotipaikka/Domicile: Helsinki ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
On 30/10/2020 00:48, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >>> And, hmm... It's too easy to get confused with these, but... If the bridge >>> defines timings, and >>> timings->input_bus_flags != 0, should we always pick that, even if we got >>> something via >>> output_flags? Logic being, if this bridge defines timings->input_bus_flags, >>> it probably wants that >>> to be used regardless whether we got something from the next bridge. > > timings->input_bus_flags is an API that predates format and flags > propagation along the pipeline. I would assume that drivers that > implement propagation should do so in a way that prioritize that API, > and either not report flags in the timings (in which case giving > priority to one or another wouldn't make a difference as both would > never be provided together), or would report flags in the timings as a > best effort fallback for display controller drivers that would look at > them exclusively without supporting the new API. I would thus think that > the flags obtained through format negotiation should be prioritized. What do you mean "drivers that implement propagation"? Doesn't that come from the framework, not from the drivers? Say, we have two bridges, A -> B. A has timings->input_bus_flags. When propagating the flags, we get something as B's input flags. Should A use B's input flags as A's input flags, or should A use its timings->input_bus_flags? I was suggesting the latter. Nikhil's patch does the latter, but only if B's input flags was 0. A can override its input flags manually in atomic_check, but if the timings->input_bus_flags exists, isn't it a sane choice to just pick that by default? Tomi -- Texas Instruments Finland Oy, Porkkalankatu 22, 00180 Helsinki. Y-tunnus/Business ID: 0615521-4. Kotipaikka/Domicile: Helsinki ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 10:40:46 +0200 Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > Hi Boris, > > On 30/10/2020 10:08, Boris Brezillon wrote: > > The "propagate output flags" and soon to be added "use > > timing->input_flags if present" logic should only be used as a fallback > > for bridges that do not support dynamic bus format/flags negotiation > > IMHO. Ideally we'd want to convert all bridges to do this dynamic bus > > format/flags negotiation and get rid of timings->input_bus_flags once > > this is done, but that's likely to take time. So, if your driver > > implements the ->atomic_check() hook and needs specific input flags, > > I'd recommend setting the input flags there instead of specifying it > > through timings->input_bus_flags. > > What is bus flags negotiation? Don't we have negotiation only for bus > formats? Bus flags are just > set, and the previous bridge in the chain has to use those flags. Well, there's currently no such negotiation, but I don't see why there wouldn't be one at some point if bridges can configure it dynamically (in you A -> B example, A output flags must match B input flags, and if both A and B can configure those dynamically, they need to negotiate that part too). > > Or do you just refer to setting the bus flags dynamically in atomic_check, > versus static in > input_bus_flags? Yes, that's what I suggest, even if those flags are static right now. ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 09:30:01 +0200 Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > On 30/10/2020 00:48, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > >>> And, hmm... It's too easy to get confused with these, but... If the > >>> bridge defines timings, and > >>> timings->input_bus_flags != 0, should we always pick that, even if we got > >>> something via > >>> output_flags? Logic being, if this bridge defines > >>> timings->input_bus_flags, it probably wants that > >>> to be used regardless whether we got something from the next bridge. > > > > timings->input_bus_flags is an API that predates format and flags > > propagation along the pipeline. I would assume that drivers that > > implement propagation should do so in a way that prioritize that API, > > and either not report flags in the timings (in which case giving > > priority to one or another wouldn't make a difference as both would > > never be provided together), or would report flags in the timings as a > > best effort fallback for display controller drivers that would look at > > them exclusively without supporting the new API. I would thus think that > > the flags obtained through format negotiation should be prioritized. > > What do you mean "drivers that implement propagation"? Doesn't that come from > the framework, not > from the drivers? > > Say, we have two bridges, A -> B. A has timings->input_bus_flags. > > When propagating the flags, we get something as B's input flags. Should A use > B's input flags as A's > input flags, or should A use its timings->input_bus_flags? I was suggesting > the latter. Nikhil's > patch does the latter, but only if B's input flags was 0. A should definitely use timings->input_bus_flags in that case. > > A can override its input flags manually in atomic_check, but if the > timings->input_bus_flags exists, > isn't it a sane choice to just pick that by default? The "propagate output flags" and soon to be added "use timing->input_flags if present" logic should only be used as a fallback for bridges that do not support dynamic bus format/flags negotiation IMHO. Ideally we'd want to convert all bridges to do this dynamic bus format/flags negotiation and get rid of timings->input_bus_flags once this is done, but that's likely to take time. So, if your driver implements the ->atomic_check() hook and needs specific input flags, I'd recommend setting the input flags there instead of specifying it through timings->input_bus_flags. ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
Hello, On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 08:04:53PM +0530, Nikhil Devshatwar wrote: > On 14:31-20201021, Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > > On 16/10/2020 13:39, Nikhil Devshatwar wrote: > > > When the next bridge does not specify any bus flags, use the > > > bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback when propagating > > > bus flags from next bridge to current bridge. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Nikhil Devshatwar > > > --- > > > drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c | 7 +++ > > > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > > > index 64f0effb52ac..8353723323ab 100644 > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > > > @@ -975,6 +975,13 @@ drm_atomic_bridge_propagate_bus_flags(struct > > > drm_bridge *bridge, > > >* duplicate the "dummy propagation" logic. > > >*/ > > > bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = output_flags; > > > + > > > + /* > > > + * Use the bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback if the next > > > bridge > > > + * does not specify the flags > > > + */ > > > + if (!bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags) > > > + bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = > > > bridge->timings->input_bus_flags; > > > > According to docs, timings can be NULL. Correct. > > And, hmm... It's too easy to get confused with these, but... If the bridge > > defines timings, and > > timings->input_bus_flags != 0, should we always pick that, even if we got > > something via > > output_flags? Logic being, if this bridge defines timings->input_bus_flags, > > it probably wants that > > to be used regardless whether we got something from the next bridge. timings->input_bus_flags is an API that predates format and flags propagation along the pipeline. I would assume that drivers that implement propagation should do so in a way that prioritize that API, and either not report flags in the timings (in which case giving priority to one or another wouldn't make a difference as both would never be provided together), or would report flags in the timings as a best effort fallback for display controller drivers that would look at them exclusively without supporting the new API. I would thus think that the flags obtained through format negotiation should be prioritized. > Got it, the flags from timings if present should be prioritized rather > than treating them as fallback. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
On 14:31-20201021, Tomi Valkeinen wrote: > On 16/10/2020 13:39, Nikhil Devshatwar wrote: > > When the next bridge does not specify any bus flags, use the > > bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback when propagating > > bus flags from next bridge to current bridge. > > > > Signed-off-by: Nikhil Devshatwar > > --- > > drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c | 7 +++ > > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > > index 64f0effb52ac..8353723323ab 100644 > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > > @@ -975,6 +975,13 @@ drm_atomic_bridge_propagate_bus_flags(struct > > drm_bridge *bridge, > > * duplicate the "dummy propagation" logic. > > */ > > bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = output_flags; > > + > > + /* > > +* Use the bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback if the next > > bridge > > +* does not specify the flags > > +*/ > > + if (!bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags) > > + bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = > > bridge->timings->input_bus_flags; > > According to docs, timings can be NULL. > > And, hmm... It's too easy to get confused with these, but... If the bridge > defines timings, and > timings->input_bus_flags != 0, should we always pick that, even if we got > something via > output_flags? Logic being, if this bridge defines timings->input_bus_flags, > it probably wants that > to be used regardless whether we got something from the next bridge. Got it, the flags from timings if present should be prioritized rather than treating them as fallback. Nikhil D > > Tomi > > -- > Texas Instruments Finland Oy, Porkkalankatu 22, 00180 Helsinki. > Y-tunnus/Business ID: 0615521-4. Kotipaikka/Domicile: Helsinki ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
On 16/10/2020 13:39, Nikhil Devshatwar wrote: > When the next bridge does not specify any bus flags, use the > bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback when propagating > bus flags from next bridge to current bridge. > > Signed-off-by: Nikhil Devshatwar > --- > drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c | 7 +++ > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > index 64f0effb52ac..8353723323ab 100644 > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c > @@ -975,6 +975,13 @@ drm_atomic_bridge_propagate_bus_flags(struct drm_bridge > *bridge, >* duplicate the "dummy propagation" logic. >*/ > bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = output_flags; > + > + /* > + * Use the bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback if the next > bridge > + * does not specify the flags > + */ > + if (!bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags) > + bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = > bridge->timings->input_bus_flags; According to docs, timings can be NULL. And, hmm... It's too easy to get confused with these, but... If the bridge defines timings, and timings->input_bus_flags != 0, should we always pick that, even if we got something via output_flags? Logic being, if this bridge defines timings->input_bus_flags, it probably wants that to be used regardless whether we got something from the next bridge. Tomi -- Texas Instruments Finland Oy, Porkkalankatu 22, 00180 Helsinki. Y-tunnus/Business ID: 0615521-4. Kotipaikka/Domicile: Helsinki ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
[PATCH 3/5] drm: bridge: Propagate the bus flags from bridge->timings
When the next bridge does not specify any bus flags, use the bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback when propagating bus flags from next bridge to current bridge. Signed-off-by: Nikhil Devshatwar --- drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c | 7 +++ 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+) diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c index 64f0effb52ac..8353723323ab 100644 --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c @@ -975,6 +975,13 @@ drm_atomic_bridge_propagate_bus_flags(struct drm_bridge *bridge, * duplicate the "dummy propagation" logic. */ bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = output_flags; + + /* +* Use the bridge->timings->input_bus_flags as fallback if the next bridge +* does not specify the flags +*/ + if (!bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags) + bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags = bridge->timings->input_bus_flags; } /** -- 2.17.1 ___ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
