Re: [Dri-devel] Problems with the radeon 1.9.0 driver in 2.6.0-test9-mm2

2003-11-17 Thread Rusty Russell
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
> On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 23:05, Andrew Morton wrote: 
> > 
> > Has anyone actually tested the functionality which this patch is supposed
> > to provide?  That loading the DRM module magically triggers a load of AGP? 
> 
> Haven't tried it, but I doubt it does looking at the code for symbol_get
> and friends... try_then_request_module() might do the trick instead?

symbol_request() is what you want here.

Sorry, was away.
Rusty.
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Re: [Dri-devel] the state of Parhelia on FreeBSD

2003-11-17 Thread Ian Romanick
Jan Eidtmann wrote:
So, support for three new cards in one mtx driver sounds just great, 
isnt it?
*looks at DRI developers* PLEASE DO IT
I can't (and don't) speak for all the DRI developers, but supporting a 
kernel modules for a closed-source client-side driver is so low on the 
priority list that all other potential DRI related projects would have 
to cease to exist before it would it even be considered. (It's run-on 
sentance Monday!)  On the flip side, I believe that all the Parhelia 
related chips are programmable-pipeline only (i.e., no fixed function 
hardware).  Even if Matrox did release all the required documentation, 
the Mesa infrastructure isn't far enough along to /properly/ support it.



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Re: [Dri-devel] Fedora + DRI R200 binary snapshots - libGL problem

2003-11-17 Thread Ian Romanick
Sergey V. Oudaltsov wrote:

I just took the R200 snapshot and trying to run in on Radeon R250 Lf
(Mobility). First, I encountered the problem with ABI version (6 vs 7)
but after taking XFree86 executable from some well-known place
(mentioned in FAQ) XFree finally took off (first question - would it be
possible to include this binary into R200 snapshots - it is necessary
anyway). 

Now I am trying to run glxinfo - and it says there is no DRI. What could
this be? I even tried to say explicitly LD_PRELOAD=... (pointing to
libGL.so.1.2 shipped with the snapshot). Still no direct rendering. What
could this be? XFree86.0.log says I _do_ have dri enabled.
(funny enough, the main reason to try DRI snapshots was broken dynamic
access to GL in Fedora's libGL - no way to play Half-Life:).
I don't remember the exact details, but I believe Fedora has separate 
TLS enabled libraries.  You may be picking that up instead of the new 
non-TLS libGL.  Could you be more specific what you mean by "problem 
with ABI version"?



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Re: [Dri-devel] the state of Parhelia on FreeBSD

2003-11-17 Thread Keith Whitwell
Ian Romanick wrote:
Jan Eidtmann wrote:

So, support for three new cards in one mtx driver sounds just great, 
isnt it?
*looks at DRI developers* PLEASE DO IT


I can't (and don't) speak for all the DRI developers, but supporting a 
kernel modules for a closed-source client-side driver is so low on the 
priority list that all other potential DRI related projects would have 
to cease to exist before it would it even be considered. (It's run-on 
sentance Monday!)  On the flip side, I believe that all the Parhelia 
related chips are programmable-pipeline only (i.e., no fixed function 
hardware).  Even if Matrox did release all the required documentation, 
the Mesa infrastructure isn't far enough along to /properly/ support it.
Actually I don't agree with the last bit.  There's not much missing from mesa 
in that regard.

Keith



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[Dri-devel] Weekly IRC meeting reminder

2003-11-17 Thread Ian Romanick

This is just a friendly reminder that the weekly dri-devel IRC meeting will
be starting in the #dri-devel channel on irc.freenode.net at 2100 UTC (or
4:00PM EST or 1:00PM PST, if you prefer).

Time zone conversion available at:

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc

Logs of previous IRC meetings are available at:

http://dri.sourceforge.net/IRC-logs/


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Programmable-pipeline hardware (was Re: [Dri-devel] the state of Parhelia on FreeBSD)

2003-11-17 Thread Ian Romanick
Keith Whitwell wrote:
Ian Romanick wrote:

sentance Monday!)  On the flip side, I believe that all the Parhelia 
related chips are programmable-pipeline only (i.e., no fixed function 
hardware).  Even if Matrox did release all the required documentation, 
the Mesa infrastructure isn't far enough along to /properly/ support it.
Actually I don't agree with the last bit.  There's not much missing from 
mesa in that regard.
There's two ways to handle this sort of hardware.  You can either have a 
ton of pre-compiled bits of code (for the GPU) to implement various 
parts of the pipeline.  Those pre-compiled bits get pulled together 
depending on the state-vector.  The other way is to pull together code 
depending on the state-vector and compile it at run-time.

Right now Mesa can do the first method.  IMO, that doesn't /properly/ 
support the hardware.  One of the nice things about the way Mesa is 
architected is that the burden of implementing new functionality falls 
on Mesa.  Going the first route shifts that burden to the 
device-specific code.

The current situation with Mesa and programmable-pipeline only hardware 
is a lot like the situation was with Mesa 4.x and TCL hardware.  It's 
doable, but it's not idea.  That's all I was trying to say before.



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[Dri-devel] Quake3 w/ r_primitives != 0

2003-11-17 Thread Ville Syrjälä
Has anyone tried Quake3 with r_primitives != 0 on non mga cards?

There's something very wrong with texture coordinates on mga.

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