Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
Christian, My experience with Creative Commons is that they are very committed to maintaining backwards compatibility. Since it looks like you are sure that there has been a change in how the CC is handling your url requests, then I would recommend contacting them. One way is via: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/ If this does not resolve the problem, I'd be happy to discuss what other options would be available to you. --Bill On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 16:24 +0200, Christian Voelker wrote: Hello William, we at stadtteilgeschichten.net a running DSpace 1.4.2. We updated to this version only recently and wont be ready for DSpace 1.5 any time soon. Having said that, the CreativeCommons submission issue has popped up at our site exactly the time when it was fixed for the rest of you. Our users are so patient that they expected this to be their fault and did not inform me within the last three weeks. So I stumbled upon it only this week and it took me some time to find out the relation to the issue discussed here. The last last submission featuring a CC license was submitted around noon MESZ August, 3rd. The first submission where it was impossible to choose the CC License was done in the afternoon MESZ August, 5th. What is happening is, that the value of the URL para- meter license_url does not get appended to the exit_url parameter by creativecommons any longer. THE DETAILS There was a change in how DSpace handles this parameter between DSpace 1.4 and DSpace 1.5, probably due to the Configurable Submission Process introduced with Revsision 2081. The change is in the jsp/submit/creative-commons.jsp around lines 70-80. There is a URL parameter defined as: String exitURL = baseURL + /submit/cc-license.jsp? license_url=[license_url]; where the license_url is not set in DSpace 1.4. In DSpace 1.5, license_url gets set already at that point and gets passed in to creativecommons later on: ... licenseURL = CreativeCommons.getLicenseURL(subInfo.getSubmissionItem().getItem()); There line including the creativecommons page stays unchanged between both releases: iframe src=http://creativecommons.org/license/?partner=dspacestylesheet= %= java.net.URLEncoder.encode(ssURL) %amp;exit_url=%= java.net.URLEncoder.encode(exitURL) % width=100% height=540fmt:message key=jsp.submit.creative-commons.info3/ /iframe Now, this is happening in DSpace 1.4 at our site. During submit process, when entering the CC Licensing page, Dspace displays this URL in the iframe: http://creativecommons.org/license/?partner=dspacestylesheet=http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/creative-commons.cssexit_url=http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/cc-license.jsp ?license_url= Please note, that license_url comes without value. The licensing page of creativecommons gets displayed in german which reflects the browser settings. We choose our license settings and hit the button Select a License. The resulting page is in english. The Adress field contains these parameters: http://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?lang=enlanguage=enreferrer=partner=dspaceexit_url=http%253A%252F%252Fstadtteilgeschichten.net%252Fsubmit%252Fcc-license.jsp%253Flicense_url%253Dstylesheet=http%253A%252F%252Fstadtteilgeschichten.net%252Fsubmit%252Fcreative-commons.csspartner_icon_url=field_commercial=yfield_derivatives=y In other words, the license_url does not get completed. The proceed link within the page points to http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/cc-license.jsp?license_url= and does not contain a value as well. If completing the request for the last page, adding the value for license_url manually, then the address field and the proceed link contain the required value: http://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?partner=dspaceexit_url=http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/cc-license.jsp ?license_url=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Probably, Creative Commons has removed this functionality during their rework because it seemed to them that it is not neede any longer. I know that it is much to request to keep such a function for a single installation, but I guess that there are other out there who still use it and just did not notice until now. I cant judge how much work it is to include this functionality again on their side. IMPACT For us, this is a major issue. We are a not for profit organization and we got funded by our government to complete a digitalisation project during this year and work together with external partners for that reason. We have treaties with these partners where we have taken responsibility to provide accessibility of the platform, id est DSpace during the whole project time. Part of the treaty is also, that these partners publish their materials under CC License. Now, we give them reason, not to fulfill their responsibilities and in turn we would have to pay back the money
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
Hello William, we at stadtteilgeschichten.net a running DSpace 1.4.2. We updated to this version only recently and wont be ready for DSpace 1.5 any time soon. Having said that, the CreativeCommons submission issue has popped up at our site exactly the time when it was fixed for the rest of you. Our users are so patient that they expected this to be their fault and did not inform me within the last three weeks. So I stumbled upon it only this week and it took me some time to find out the relation to the issue discussed here. The last last submission featuring a CC license was submitted around noon MESZ August, 3rd. The first submission where it was impossible to choose the CC License was done in the afternoon MESZ August, 5th. What is happening is, that the value of the URL para- meter license_url does not get appended to the exit_url parameter by creativecommons any longer. THE DETAILS There was a change in how DSpace handles this parameter between DSpace 1.4 and DSpace 1.5, probably due to the Configurable Submission Process introduced with Revsision 2081. The change is in the jsp/submit/creative-commons.jsp around lines 70-80. There is a URL parameter defined as: String exitURL = baseURL + /submit/cc-license.jsp? license_url=[license_url]; where the license_url is not set in DSpace 1.4. In DSpace 1.5, license_url gets set already at that point and gets passed in to creativecommons later on: ... licenseURL = CreativeCommons.getLicenseURL(subInfo.getSubmissionItem().getItem()); There line including the creativecommons page stays unchanged between both releases: iframe src=http://creativecommons.org/license/?partner=dspaceamp;stylesheet= %= java.net.URLEncoder.encode(ssURL) %amp;exit_url=%= java.net.URLEncoder.encode(exitURL) % width=100% height=540fmt:message key=jsp.submit.creative-commons.info3/ /iframe Now, this is happening in DSpace 1.4 at our site. During submit process, when entering the CC Licensing page, Dspace displays this URL in the iframe: http://creativecommons.org/license/?partner=dspacestylesheet=http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/creative-commons.cssexit_url=http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/cc-license.jsp ?license_url= Please note, that license_url comes without value. The licensing page of creativecommons gets displayed in german which reflects the browser settings. We choose our license settings and hit the button Select a License. The resulting page is in english. The Adress field contains these parameters: http://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?lang=enlanguage=enreferrer=partner=dspaceexit_url=http%253A%252F%252Fstadtteilgeschichten.net%252Fsubmit%252Fcc-license.jsp%253Flicense_url%253Dstylesheet=http%253A%252F%252Fstadtteilgeschichten.net%252Fsubmit%252Fcreative-commons.csspartner_icon_url=field_commercial=yfield_derivatives=y In other words, the license_url does not get completed. The proceed link within the page points to http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/cc-license.jsp?license_url= and does not contain a value as well. If completing the request for the last page, adding the value for license_url manually, then the address field and the proceed link contain the required value: http://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?partner=dspaceexit_url=http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/submit/cc-license.jsp ?license_url=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Probably, Creative Commons has removed this functionality during their rework because it seemed to them that it is not neede any longer. I know that it is much to request to keep such a function for a single installation, but I guess that there are other out there who still use it and just did not notice until now. I cant judge how much work it is to include this functionality again on their side. IMPACT For us, this is a major issue. We are a not for profit organization and we got funded by our government to complete a digitalisation project during this year and work together with external partners for that reason. We have treaties with these partners where we have taken responsibility to provide accessibility of the platform, id est DSpace during the whole project time. Part of the treaty is also, that these partners publish their materials under CC License. Now, we give them reason, not to fulfill their responsibilities and in turn we would have to pay back the money we got to complete this project. Besides, this project has already revealed wonderful res- sources of social history. You probably know the name of St. Pauli. Sources of this archive would not be published without this project: http://stadtteilgeschichten.net/handle/2339/1032/browse-date?order=oldestfirst We decided not to apply major changes to the platform during project runtime, id est in 2009 and we would not have the ressources to do so besides the project. I could not figure out a simple way to apply the Configurable Submission Process patches from 1.5 to the 1.4 sources without breaking
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
Many thanks to you, William, and to Nathan at Creative Commons. When a user chooses a Creative Commons license once again they are being returned to our instance of DSpace...along with the CC files in the CC-License bundle. Much obliged, Lexie Alexia Thompson-Young atyo...@mail.utexas.edu Licensing Coordinator University of Texas Libraries University of Texas at Austin 512-495-4251 phone 512-495-4657 fax -Original Message- From: William Hays [mailto:wh...@mit.edu] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:06 AM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace Creative Commons has fixed this bug which appears in the CC license selection process during submission. The incorrect page was being called resulting in no return to the submission process in DSpace. I have tried it out and things look back to normal. -- William Hays Technology Research Development MIT Libraries E25-131 617.324.5682 (phone) wh...@mit.edu -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
Creative Commons has fixed this bug which appears in the CC license selection process during submission. The incorrect page was being called resulting in no return to the submission process in DSpace. I have tried it out and things look back to normal. -- William Hays Technology Research Development MIT Libraries E25-131 617.324.5682 (phone) wh...@mit.edu -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Federico Lazcanofederico.lazc...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. Dspace 1.5.2 using Manakin. Patch 205 applied. Here too, 1.5.1/Manakin. Dorothea -- Dorothea Salods...@library.wisc.edu Digital Repository Librarian AIM: mindsatuw University of Wisconsin Rm 218, Memorial Library (608) 262-5493 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
El Tuesday 28 July 2009 10:09:00 Dorothea Salo escribió: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Federico Lazcanofederico.lazc...@gmail.com wrote: Confirmed. Dspace 1.5.2 using Manakin. Patch 205 applied. Here too, 1.5.1/Manakin. Dorothea Any news? Comments? Perhaps we should try to patch Manakin, because CreativeCommons think it's solved: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue142 Thanks in advance. -- Federico Lazcano -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
I contacted Nathan at CreateCommons with this new license issue. As a result of a recent code change at their end, clicking the CC License button results in the wrong webpage displaying. He expects a fix very shortly. He writes: I don't think this is related to the bug Graham reported, but it's most likely related to http://labs.creativecommons.org/2009/07/21/license-engine-path-changes/ (obviously). It looks like the problem is that you're using POST for the submission; the fact that we supported POST at all was something of a, well, bug, I guess. At the very least it wasn't something we had a test for since our examples were primarily GETs. So unfortunately when we moved the license chooser, the redirect handler doesn't pass along the POST payload. I've opened an issue in our tracker (http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue420) to fix this on our end. We don't want to break our existing deployments this way and I suspect this may be impacting other DSpace deployments as well. I'll see about getting that updated and rolled out this afternoon. -- William Hays Technology Research Development MIT Libraries E25-131 617.324.5682 (phone) wh...@mit.edu -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
Many thanks, William, for following up with Creative Commons. We appreciate it, Lexie Alexia Thompson-Young atyo...@mail.utexas.edu Licensing Coordinator University of Texas Libraries University of Texas at Austin 512-495-4251 phone 512-495-4657 fax -Original Message- From: William Hays [mailto:wh...@mit.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16 PM To: dspace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace I contacted Nathan at CreateCommons with this new license issue. As a result of a recent code change at their end, clicking the CC License button results in the wrong webpage displaying. He expects a fix very shortly. He writes: I don't think this is related to the bug Graham reported, but it's most likely related to http://labs.creativecommons.org/2009/07/21/license-engine-path-changes/ (obviously). It looks like the problem is that you're using POST for the submission; the fact that we supported POST at all was something of a, well, bug, I guess. At the very least it wasn't something we had a test for since our examples were primarily GETs. So unfortunately when we moved the license chooser, the redirect handler doesn't pass along the POST payload. I've opened an issue in our tracker (http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue420) to fix this on our end. We don't want to break our existing deployments this way and I suspect this may be impacting other DSpace deployments as well. I'll see about getting that updated and rolled out this afternoon. -- William Hays Technology Research Development MIT Libraries E25-131 617.324.5682 (phone) wh...@mit.edu -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
Confirmed. Dspace 1.5.2 using Manakin. Patch 205 applied. Thanks in advance. El Friday 24 July 2009 17:54:21 Thompson-Young, Alexia A escribió: All and Graham, We are using DSpace 1.5.2 and had enabled the Creative Commons license option a week ago. This option worked until we noticed it not working this afternoon. This afternoon we realized when a submitter clicked on the button to go to Creative Commons, they were taken to a different web page than before, given customization options, but there was no way back to DSpace and using the browser's back button brought the submitter back to DSpace without a license. This sounds like issue 142 that Graham references below with Creative Commons, but the patch applied by Creative Commons does not work for us. Any other experiences or ideas? Much obliged, Lexie Alexia Thompson-Young atyo...@mail.utexas.edumailto:atyo...@mail.utexas.edu Licensing Coordinator University of Texas Libraries University of Texas at Austin 512-495-4251 phone 512-495-4657 fax Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem From: Graham Triggs gra...@bi... - 2009-07-24 16:23 FYI, the problem that I reported to Creative Commons has been fixed. G -Original Message- From: Graham Triggs [mailto:gra...@bi...] Sent: 23 July 2009 10:38 To: Robin Taylor; Tech General Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem Hmmm... Not sure about that one. I've run into this issue: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue142 G -Original Message- From: Robin Taylor [mailto:robin.tay...@ed.ac.uk]mailto:[mailto:robin.tay...@ed.ac.uk] Sent: 23 July 2009 10:31 To: Tech General Subject: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem A speculative query - Anyone experiencing any problems with CC licences over the last couple of days ? A problem has been reported on the spanish users mailing list and we find ourselves now unable to anonymously view items that were submitted yesterday and had CC licences attached. Thanks, Robin. Robin Taylor Main Library University of Edinburgh Tel. 0131 6513808 -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- ___ DSpace-tech mailing list dspace-t...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech --- --- ___ DSpace-tech mailing list dspace-t...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech -- Federico Lazcano -- ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
[Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem - not returning to DSpace
All and Graham, We are using DSpace 1.5.2 and had enabled the Creative Commons license option a week ago. This option worked until we noticed it not working this afternoon. This afternoon we realized when a submitter clicked on the button to go to Creative Commons, they were taken to a different web page than before, given customization options, but there was no way back to DSpace and using the browser's back button brought the submitter back to DSpace without a license. This sounds like issue 142 that Graham references below with Creative Commons, but the patch applied by Creative Commons does not work for us. Any other experiences or ideas? Much obliged, Lexie Alexia Thompson-Young atyo...@mail.utexas.edumailto:atyo...@mail.utexas.edu Licensing Coordinator University of Texas Libraries University of Texas at Austin 512-495-4251 phone 512-495-4657 fax Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem From: Graham Triggs gra...@bi... - 2009-07-24 16:23 FYI, the problem that I reported to Creative Commons has been fixed. G -Original Message- From: Graham Triggs [mailto:gra...@bi...] Sent: 23 July 2009 10:38 To: Robin Taylor; Tech General Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem Hmmm... Not sure about that one. I've run into this issue: http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue142 G -Original Message- From: Robin Taylor [mailto:robin.tay...@ed.ac.uk]mailto:[mailto:robin.tay...@ed.ac.uk] Sent: 23 July 2009 10:31 To: Tech General Subject: [Dspace-tech] Creative Commons problem A speculative query - Anyone experiencing any problems with CC licences over the last couple of days ? A problem has been reported on the spanish users mailing list and we find ourselves now unable to anonymously view items that were submitted yesterday and had CC licences attached. Thanks, Robin. Robin Taylor Main Library University of Edinburgh Tel. 0131 6513808 -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. -- ___ DSpace-tech mailing list dspace-t...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech -- ___ DSpace-tech mailing list dspace-t...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech -- ___ DSpace-tech mailing list DSpace-tech@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dspace-tech
