Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
On Monday 30 July 2007 04:22:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use linux almost 10years and never understand how to config sendmail at all! LOL, postfix rocks~ You obviously never learned during that period of time that you _don't_ top post answering to mailing lists like you would answering your mom and that your LOLs make your answers look retarded... You are using sendmail right? I think majority here use something else than sendmail, because sendmail isn't really user friendly to configure IMHO. I myself run postfix, dspam, amavisd-new, dbmail. If you did ask postfix related question, I bet you would get answer. There really migh be only few if any using sendmail. [...]
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
LOL, what can you do if I LOL again? (I am seems stirling :) On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:55 AM, Marcin M. Jessa wrote: On Monday 30 July 2007 04:22:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use linux almost 10years and never understand how to config sendmail at all! LOL, postfix rocks~ You obviously never learned during that period of time that you _don't_ top post answering to mailing lists like you would answering your mom and that your LOLs make your answers look retarded... Get over yourself. - Mark - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing homepage at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar !DSPAM:1,46ae058c253491813310599! -- Thomas G. Lau Technical Support Engineer PowerNetix Limited Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 852-2189-7222 Address: 22/F China Online Centre, 333 Lockhart Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong Dedicate, Performance, Reliable --- PowerNetix Datacenter: Department of Engineer The walls between art and engineering exist only in our minds. - Theo Jansen
RE: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
You are using sendmail right? I think majority here use something else than sendmail, because sendmail isn't really user friendly to configure IMHO. I myself run postfix, dspam, amavisd-new, dbmail. If you did ask postfix related question, I bet you would get answer. There really migh be only few if any using sendmail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Casey Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:25 PM To: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Subject: Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list? Well, I've almost got it working but not quite. Mail does go through dspam but I still have a couple of issues I can't figure out. I've asked for help, I've googled, I've read everything I found regarding dspam. I give up. I'm really sorry because I really wanted to use dspam. Lisa
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
Lisa Casey wrote: Well, I've almost got it working but not quite. Mail does go through dspam but I still have a couple of issues I can't figure out. I've asked for help, I've googled, I've read everything I found regarding dspam. I give up. I'm really sorry because I really wanted to use dspam. The wining is there, but... Where's the question? Where's the problem? What issues? /L
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
Lisa Casey wrote: Hi people, In the last week, I have sent two e-mails to this list asking for help. My questions were not complex, as a matter of fact they are probably fairly simple (since I'm a newbie to dspam). I really want to use dspam but like anything else, when you're just getting started with something you sometimes need a little help and so far I have received absolutely no responses to my questions (actually I did get one response, one fellow answered to say he didn't know). If I can't get answers to simple questions then I might as well go back to mimedefang/spamassassin. Maybe my questions are too simple and you folks think I'm not worth bothering with? What's up with this list? Patience. /L
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
Mark Dadgar skrev, on 26-07-2007 18:52: Your post was irrelevant to my (pretty effective) setup, so I ignored it. There's not much up with the list, simply the individual egoists on it. Winner: Most Ironic Post Of The Year It wasn't meant to be ironic, it was the simple truth: I have no knowledge of what the cadaver (Dutch kreng) is attempting with the means at the cadaver's hand. I despise Sendmail, I despise the standard dspam's way of doing things: That notwithstanding, with my way of doing things, dspam's pretty effective. No-one, but no-one ever forced me to choose Postfix as MTA, I have adequate knowledge of what to do to get Postfix working (my own method) with dspam, in the past I've documented that adequately. --Tonni -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
Well, I've almost got it working but not quite. Mail does go through dspam but I still have a couple of issues I can't figure out. I've asked for help, I've googled, I've read everything I found regarding dspam. I give up. I'm really sorry because I really wanted to use dspam. Lisa
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
Hehe, no need to get all dramatic :) Another thing that might work, is split up your questions in different ( short ) emails. Most people ( like myself ) don't have the time nor feel like reading huge mails, and you have a much higher chance to at least get answers to _some_ of your mails when you split them up in smaller, more digestible pieces. Think bitesize/bytesize ;) - Original Message - From: Lisa Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:25:14 PM (GMT+0100) Europe/Berlin Subject: Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list? Well, I've almost got it working but not quite. Mail does go through dspam but I still have a couple of issues I can't figure out. I've asked for help, I've googled, I've read everything I found regarding dspam. I give up. I'm really sorry because I really wanted to use dspam. Lisa !DSPAM:3,46a9037b252268415014756!
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
On Jul 25, 2007, at 13:41, Lisa Casey wrote: Hi, I am really new to Dspam (I have used mimedefang/spamassassin in the past). My mailserver is Sendmail running on FreeBSD with Procmail as the LDA. I installed Dspam from the FreeBSD ports using daemon mode and the hash storage driver, and am in the process of configuring it. There are several things I don't understand real well. I am using Dspam on FreeBSD with sendmail. 1. The cgi user (www) and the MTA user (mailnull) need to be able to do certain things (execute the dspam binary, etc.). Do I justy need to specify these users as trusted users in dspam.conf for that to work? I don't use the supplied cgi stuff so don't know about www. I have mailnull specified as a trusted user and it works. I never tried it without that. 2. user aliases: I really don't want to have to create mail aliases for every user on the system (there are about 600 mailboxes at present). I'm not using MySQL or PgSQL so I can't use The Simple Way mentioned in the Dspam README so I'm trying to figure out The Kind-of-Simple Way. I need to set up a subdomain like relearn.jellico.com Do I need an A record for that in my DNS zone file? The dspam readme states: set up a subdomain catch-all directly into DSPAM. For example: @relearn.domain.tld|/usr/local/bin/dspam I have a similar situation but with quite a few more users. Each user has a home directory and the hash database is stored in there which I find quite handy. I have an entry in /etc/mail/aliases: spamuser: |/usr/local/bin/dspam --class=spam --source=error In /etc/mail/virtusers (thats not the default - but the virtusertable source): @spam.lafn.org spamuser I handle mail for several domains and this approach controls mail for the main domain using dspam. I also have the outgoing mailserver on a different machine than the incoming mail server so it has to forward the mail to the incoming server. I believe the simpler approach in the documentation works fine in a single domain situation. I never tested that though. Do I put that into dspam.conf? Then I set the appropriate ParseToHeaders and related options in dspam.conf and have my users forward spam and ham to (example) [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that it? I'm afraid I don't understand this very well. I use the following in dspam.conf: ParseToHeaders on ChangeModeOnParse on ChangeUserOnParse user I believe those are the only settings that will work in this situation. 3. The webui: When I installed DSPAM it created the subdirectory / usr/local/www/vhosts/dspam containing the following files: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 22764 Jul 25 14:49 admin.cgi -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3396 Jul 25 14:58 admingraph.cgi -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 10 Jul 25 14:45 admins -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 5 Jul 25 11:56 admins.sample -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 2772 Jul 25 11:56 base.css -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2704 Jul 25 14:47 configure.pl -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2713 Jul 25 11:56 configure.pl.sample -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1383 Jul 25 12:55 default.prefs -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1383 Jul 25 11:56 default.prefs.sample -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 4792 Jul 25 11:56 dspam-logo-small.gif -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 42736 Jul 25 14:50 dspam.cgi -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2887 Jul 25 14:51 graph.cgi -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 17168 Jul 25 11:56 rgb.txt drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel512 Jul 25 11:56 templates The README states that I need to copy the files from the dspam/ webui directory into my document root and cgi-bin. Can I assume that having these files in /usr/local/www/vhost/dspam is sufficient or do I need to copy these files into my real cgi-bin directory? If so, are there any files that need to go into cgi-bin bedides the .cgi's and .pl's? What files need to go into Apache's document root? I don't use the cgi-bin stuff as it is very high overhead on the server. I rewrote it in C to avoid that problem. 4. The README states: If you are running procmail, this will become a problem as procmail requires root privileges to deliver. The easiest hack around this is to create a procmail.dspam binary and make it setuid root, then make it executable only by the mail group (or whatever group DSPAM and the CGI run in). I found this info on the web. Is this what I need to do to comply with what the README says about Procmail? cp /usr/bin/procmail /usr/local/bin/procmail.dspam chown root.dspam /usr/local/bin/procmail.dspam chmod 550 /usr/local/bin/procmail.dspam chmod u+s /usr/local/bin/procmail.dspam I believe that should work. I use tmda as my LDA and had to write a similar program for it. However, it had to be a bit more sophisticated as it has to determine which spam blocking approach my user is using and deliver with tmda or mail.local as appropriate. It uses similar approach as above to function Which brings up another point - the dspam
Re: [dspam-users] No help from this list?
Dear Lisa: DSPAM is very good, but indeed is not an easy task to install it. It's a task not for the faint of heart. I suggest you to look for tutorials on the net. Sysadmins should be persistant and have to learn lots of things by themselves. Do not try to install directly on your production server. Use a spare host to do all the tests beforehand. About mailling lists, they, in general, would help you in specific aspects, not covered everywhere else, but usually not step-by-step tutorials. The guys that answer questions in lists, most of the time, don't earn anything.. They know the subject and they're willing to help, but no one is obliged to. The result of being a little impolite in any mailling list is that no one will ever bother to read your e-mails. So you have to be carefull how you address the audience of mailing lists. If nobody anwered your e-mail, try to rewrite it. I'm using DSPAM with Mysql and it took long time to put it working. And I'm still learning things. Regards, Helio. On 7/26/07, Lisa Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people, In the last week, I have sent two e-mails to this list asking for help. My questions were not complex, as a matter of fact they are probably fairly simple (since I'm a newbie to dspam). I really want to use dspam but like anything else, when you're just getting started with something you sometimes need a little help and so far I have received absolutely no responses to my questions (actually I did get one response, one fellow answered to say he didn't know). If I can't get answers to simple questions then I might as well go back to mimedefang/spamassassin. Maybe my questions are too simple and you folks think I'm not worth bothering with? What's up with this list? Lisa Casey
