Re: [Duplicity-team] [Question #133863]: Is it possible to make incremental backups while the full backup runs?

2011-06-01 Thread Adam Porter
Question #133863 on Duplicity changed:
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Adam Porter posted a new comment:
How much of your 50 GB changes in a month?  Maybe you could drop older
sets and continue making incrementals for a longer period.  If only a
small part of your 50 GB changes in a month, it seems...tedious to
reupload it all every month.

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Re: [Duplicity-team] [Question #133863]: Is it possible to make incremental backups while the full backup runs?

2010-11-13 Thread Patrick Allemann
Question #133863 on Duplicity changed:
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Patrick Allemann posted a new comment:
Hi ede,

yeah - I did think of that workaround but I would still be at risk as
rsync would also upload the files sequentially. I would have a backup on
my usb-disk but it still would not be stored off-site in case of a
catastrophic event.

As far as I got the concept, a incremental backup alsways is connected
to a backup chain which starts with a full backup. I don't yet see why
my incremental backups could be added to last months backup chain as
long as this months full backup is not finished yet. The new-recent-
fullbackup is valid starting the date it finished I guess. Can't I
force duplicity to connect to the old backup chain? In duply you have
the possibility to force the process into full or incremental - but it
gets messed up with the cached files if there are two running processes.

patrick

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Re: [Duplicity-team] [Question #133863]: Is it possible to make incremental backups while the full backup runs?

2010-11-13 Thread edso
Question #133863 on Duplicity changed:
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Status: Open = Answered

edso proposed the following answer:
On 13.11.2010 13:26, Patrick Allemann wrote:
 Question #133863 on Duplicity changed:
 https://answers.launchpad.net/duplicity/+question/133863
 
 Patrick Allemann posted a new comment:
 Hi ede,
 
 yeah - I did think of that workaround but I would still be at risk as
 rsync would also upload the files sequentially. I would have a backup on

what do you do when duplicity fails because your line chokes? Restart
the full? And if it chokes again? Restart again? Recent duplicity is
supposed to resume, but personally I wouldn't count on it for production
usage.

The local storage workaround results in duplicity quickly finishing
backups. This way you separate the backup creation from the upload
process. You separate it from the bottleneck that your line is.

 my usb-disk but it still would not be stored off-site in case of a
 catastrophic event.

This way you can in parallel to your ongoing new full upload, upload the much 
smaller incremental backup of the old chain. They should be much smaller of 
course, so they can be transferred within a day despite your other upload(s). 
How much daily change do you generate?
 
 As far as I got the concept, a incremental backup alsways is connected
 to a backup chain which starts with a full backup. I don't yet see why
 my incremental backups could be added to last months backup chain as
 long as this months full backup is not finished yet. The new-recent-
 fullbackup is valid starting the date it finished I guess. 

Right. Duplicity looks what is latest in the repository and acts accordingly. 
That's why i wrote 'new folder'. Reread my last comment ;).
A new folder is a new empty repository, hence the old backup chain in the old 
repository can be incrementally extended as you like.

Can't I
 force duplicity to connect to the old backup chain? In duply you have
 the possibility to force the process into full or incremental - but it

duply only simplifies duplicity. You can of course force duplicity to
full or incr (if a full already exists) without duply.

 gets messed up with the cached files if there are two running processes.
 

yes. Duplicity currently expects that there is only one instance running
per repository.

..ede/duply.net

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Re: [Duplicity-team] [Question #133863]: Is it possible to make incremental backups while the full backup runs?

2010-11-13 Thread edgar . soldin
On 13.11.2010 14:21, edso wrote:
 Can't I
 force duplicity to connect to the old backup chain? In duply you have

yes. by using separate repositories. as described above.

..ede/duply.net

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