Re: [dwm] [ANNOUNCE] cmarkdown-0.3

2007-12-14 Thread markus schnalke
Enno Gottox Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I use pre for displaying a block segment of code. Markdown.pl uses
 precode. I really don't know if I should use that too.

I read, that it should be precode, because of the semantic behind
it. pre just stands for preformated text, code normally does not
change anything in the graphical view of the layout engines, but it
says: this is a special kind of preformated text - it's code.

I think screen readers distinguish here.

That's like the difference betweeen b and strong.


meillo



Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Pieter Verberne wrote:
 So from 'stand' and 'sys' the lines are cut off! This really makes -much-
 less usable. This occurs both with Xterm and rxvt. (Kai once gave me the
 advice to use urxvt but OpenBSD does not have a port for it.)
At home, I started to use gnome-terminal.  I like it.  I turned off all
decorations, so now it looks like xterm and urxvt: no menubar, no
scrollbar, just the text.

Kai




Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Kai Grossjohann dixit (2007-12-14, 10:13):

  So from 'stand' and 'sys' the lines are cut off! This really makes -much-
  less usable. This occurs both with Xterm and rxvt. (Kai once gave me the
  advice to use urxvt but OpenBSD does not have a port for it.)

 At home, I started to use gnome-terminal.  I like it.  I turned off all
 decorations, so now it looks like xterm and urxvt: no menubar, no
 scrollbar, just the text.

Gnome-terminal seems to be a bit heavy on dependencies. I rid my system
of most KDE/Gnome stuff (with the exception of kdelibs+k3b and
gucharmap), the only apps from these environments I find somewhat
useful

Best,

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Re: [dwm] [ANNOUNCE] cmarkdown-0.3

2007-12-14 Thread pancake
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 09:37:58AM +0100, Sebastian A. Liem wrote:
 What's bad about markdown? I've got minimal experience with it, it was
 cmarkdown that got me interested in txt2html converters.

Little related ..but maybe this project may interest you:

  http://news.nopcode.org/miau/pvc.cgi?prj=xml2doc
  http://news.nopcode.org/miau/pvc.cgi?prj=rss2html

 Enno Gottox Boland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use pre for displaying a block segment of code. Markdown.pl uses
  precode. I really don't know if I should use that too.
 
 I agree with meillo, it should be precode. More semantically correct.
 
 -- 
 Sebastian A. Liem  http://www.liem.se/
 



Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:19:55AM +0100, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
 Kai Grossjohann dixit (2007-12-14, 10:13):
 
   So from 'stand' and 'sys' the lines are cut off! This really makes -much-
   less usable. This occurs both with Xterm and rxvt. (Kai once gave me the
   advice to use urxvt but OpenBSD does not have a port for it.)
 
  At home, I started to use gnome-terminal.  I like it.  I turned off all
  decorations, so now it looks like xterm and urxvt: no menubar, no
  scrollbar, just the text.
 
 Gnome-terminal seems to be a bit heavy on dependencies. I rid my system
 of most KDE/Gnome stuff (with the exception of kdelibs+k3b and
 gucharmap), the only apps from these environments I find somewhat
 useful

I don't like the dependencies either. For me it is pretty important that
software is not any bigger (contain more code) than necessary.
(webbrowsers are my biggest irritation.)



Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 02:30:22PM +0100, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
 Yeah, webbrowsers are a major problem. I really love the vimperator
 extension for firefox, but can't stand firefox... Otherwise I think
 Opera is the best (or rather the least bad) choice currently (even
 though there are major annoyances both in the 9.2x and the pre_9.5x
 versions).
 
 I'm really looking forward to HV3 getting somewhat mainstream (it still
 needs better javascript support and some other things). It's quite
 usable right now, I use it whenever I need to quickly have a look at the
 web without launching any of the huge browsers and when a textmode
 browser is not enough.

A few months ago I was browsing the WWW and got irritated again mainly
because of the way to navigate the WWW. (Somethimes, I suffer a bit RSI.
I also tried Vimperator but it doensn't 'feel' well. I never tried Opera
(closed source).) It is very impractical to navigate the web with a
keyboard. I do use Lynx sometimes but it is just not suitable for all
websites.

I was once talking with another student about my frustrations with the
web. I said something like this; I hate webdesign. When I browse a
webpage, often, I go directly to te sitemap, wich -does- have a nice
navigation. From there I start browsing the webpage. I also told that
all webpages should just have a tree(1)-like (hierarchical) menu on the
left side, without any markup. Pretty much like suckless.org.

Whatever, it just doesn't exist. Till a few weeks ago, I found out the
Gopher protocol:-) And my frustration moved from the web to the fact
that 'nobody is using gopher'.

It's hard for me to speak out such sadness...  ( :-) )

(euhk, a sgml tag)unrealistic optimism
How about writing a new Gopher+ server in the 10 000-SLOC philosophy
give Gopher a market share of 20% in about 5 years again?
(we should also use another markup language than HTML for hypertext
documents)
\unrealistic optimism

It would really comfort me.

Pieter Verberne



Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Pieter Verberne dixit (2007-12-14, 11:13):

 I don't like the dependencies either. For me it is pretty important
 that software is not any bigger (contain more code) than necessary.
 (webbrowsers are my biggest irritation.)

Yeah, webbrowsers are a major problem. I really love the vimperator
extension for firefox, but can't stand firefox... Otherwise I think
Opera is the best (or rather the least bad) choice currently (even
though there are major annoyances both in the 9.2x and the pre_9.5x
versions).

I'm really looking forward to HV3 getting somewhat mainstream (it still
needs better javascript support and some other things). It's quite
usable right now, I use it whenever I need to quickly have a look at the
web without launching any of the huge browsers and when a textmode
browser is not enough.

Regards,

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Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Anselm R. Garbe
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:28:30PM +0100, Pieter Verberne wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 02:30:22PM +0100, Antoni Grzymala wrote:
  Yeah, webbrowsers are a major problem. I really love the vimperator
  extension for firefox, but can't stand firefox... Otherwise I think
  Opera is the best (or rather the least bad) choice currently (even
  though there are major annoyances both in the 9.2x and the pre_9.5x
  versions).
  
  I'm really looking forward to HV3 getting somewhat mainstream (it still
  needs better javascript support and some other things). It's quite
  usable right now, I use it whenever I need to quickly have a look at the
  web without launching any of the huge browsers and when a textmode
  browser is not enough.
 
 A few months ago I was browsing the WWW and got irritated again mainly
 because of the way to navigate the WWW. (Somethimes, I suffer a bit RSI.
 I also tried Vimperator but it doensn't 'feel' well. I never tried Opera
 (closed source).) It is very impractical to navigate the web with a
 keyboard. I do use Lynx sometimes but it is just not suitable for all
 websites.
 
 I was once talking with another student about my frustrations with the
 web. I said something like this; I hate webdesign. When I browse a
 webpage, often, I go directly to te sitemap, wich -does- have a nice
 navigation. From there I start browsing the webpage. I also told that
 all webpages should just have a tree(1)-like (hierarchical) menu on the
 left side, without any markup. Pretty much like suckless.org.
 
 Whatever, it just doesn't exist. Till a few weeks ago, I found out the
 Gopher protocol:-) And my frustration moved from the web to the fact
 that 'nobody is using gopher'.
 
 It's hard for me to speak out such sadness...  ( :-) )
 
 (euhk, a sgml tag)unrealistic optimism
 How about writing a new Gopher+ server in the 10 000-SLOC philosophy
 give Gopher a market share of 20% in about 5 years again?
 (we should also use another markup language than HTML for hypertext
 documents)
 \unrealistic optimism

20h did it already:
http://www.r-36.net/gopher.php?u=/geomyidae.gph

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [dwm] How to restart after re-compiling dwm without destroying of existing clients?

2007-12-14 Thread Taras Ivashchenko
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:44:19 -0500
Evan Gates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks to all!

 You can just kill dwm (default keybinding Mod1+shift+q) making sure
 you have a shell open, then restart dwm from that shell.
 
 -Evan
 
 On Dec 13, 2007 1:39 PM, Taras Ivashchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello everybody, sorry if this question already was asked.
 
  Is there way or may be patch to restart after re-compiling dwm without 
  destroying of existing clients?
  Something like  restart feature in xmonad?
 
  Thanks.
 
  --
  Taras Ivashchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Software is like SEX - it's better when it's FREE - Linus Torvalds
 
 
 


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Re: [dwm] Characters still mess up in Xterm/RXVT

2007-12-14 Thread Pieter Verberne
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:55:02PM +0100, Anselm R. Garbe wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:28:30PM +0100, Pieter Verberne wrote:
  (euhk, a sgml tag)unrealistic optimism
  How about writing a new Gopher+ server in the 10 000-SLOC philosophy
  give Gopher a market share of 20% in about 5 years again?
  (we should also use another markup language than HTML for hypertext
  documents)
  \unrealistic optimism
 
 20h did it already:
 http://www.r-36.net/gopher.php?u=/geomyidae.gph

Awesome. I didn't find that app while looking for servers.